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  • 27-05-2017 8:17pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭


    Just like an opinion on this.

    We where around lazlo's jewlers today where there was some street entertainment.

    Our 3 year old daughter had a tub of ice cream ( bubblegum and mint) and sat on the seat with the two old men (statues -Oscar and didn't get the other fellows name:o).

    There was another lady sitting beside her so my wife was standing in front and I was behind.

    Here's the point...

    Some tourists asked both would they mind getting up so they could take a picture. The lady got up and so too did my daughter without really thinking.

    When they finished my daughter sat back down again with her ice cream. Some more tourists followed in and said to themselves or us? We were going to get a picture too.

    I said nothing and they said nothing but stayed standing there waiting, eventually asking could we move.

    At this point I said, look this is a 3 year old girl sitting on a seat eating her ice cream. She is not moving again until she is ready.

    Few minutes later same thing happened again just as she was finishing.

    Just to note also there are no other seats I

    Would you move? Would you move your child?
    If you were in a park would you move if sitting beside a fountain, statue or similar?

    Would you ask a 3 year old girl sitting on a seat and using it to eat to move for a picture?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    I would move for a small fee!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Would you rather they took a photo of the statues with your kid sitting there?

    There's no street furniture around because it's Ireland and it having it would encourage anti-social behaviour. The statues are not a seat, they are a tourist attraction. Love 'em or hate 'em, tourists are one of Galway's cash cows.

    If your kid needs to sit down in order to eat ice-cream, then buy it in Supermacs or suchlike which provides sit-down areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Would you rather they took a photo of the statues with your kid sitting there?

    There's no street furniture around because it's Ireland and it having it would encourage anti-social behaviour. The statues are not a seat, they are a tourist attraction. Love 'em or hate 'em, tourists are one of Galway's cash cows.

    If your kid needs to sit down in order to eat ice-cream, then buy it in Supermacs or suchlike which provides sit-down areas.

    I'm sorry but it is a seat, there are no others anywhere near and she was watching street show. I have often seen people eat there lunches there and use it as a seat all the time.

    What right has anyone to tell us to move?

    So do you want to shut down the small dedicated ice cream businesses that sell real ice cream, for cheap crap like fast food places as they have no seats?

    This is a 3 year old toddler remember, In the middle of having her treat for the day, how exactly would you explain to her that she must give up her seat at a whim?

    and I'll buy my ice cream where I like thank you, no long cues, treated lovely by the 2 staff members offer loads of sample tastes, and supporting small businesses in Galway ...

    I case anyone interested, highly recommended

    http://www.ginosgelato.com/our-locations/galway/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    You sound like a drama queen

    Bench has statues on it. Tourists like photographing statues.

    Show some hospitality and let them take the photos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 427 ✭✭Boggy Turf


    ForestFire wrote: »
    Just like an opinion on this.

    We where around lazlo's jewlers today where there was some street entertainment.

    Our 3 year old daughter had a tub of ice cream ( bubblegum and mint) and sat on the seat with the two old men (statues -Oscar and didn't get the other fellows name:o).

    There was another lady sitting beside her so my wife was standing in front and I was behind.

    Here's the point...

    Some tourists asked both would they mind getting up so they could take a picture. The lady got up and so too did my daughter without really thinking.

    When they finished my daughter sat back down again with her ice cream. Some more tourists followed in and said to themselves or us? We were going to get a picture too.

    I said nothing and they said nothing but stayed standing there waiting, eventually asking could we move.

    At this point I said, look this is a 3 year old girl sitting on a seat eating her ice cream. She is not moving again until she is ready.

    Few minutes later same thing happened again just as she was finishing.

    Just to note also there are no other seats I

    Would you move? Would you move your child?
    If you were in a park would you move if sitting beside a fountain, statue or similar?

    Would you ask a 3 year old girl sitting on a seat and using it to eat to move for a picture?

    Thanks

    No I would not have moved my daughter. It is a seat and I often see people sitting there. The tourists can come back when it's empty.
    If they really want an empty picture, Google Images is your friend...;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    I wouldn't let my kid sit on that!!

    You see the carry on during the night?

    Also, Galway is a tourist town. It has nothing else going for it. Assuming it's still the case but the single largest employer in the city was the University. Need private money to pay for that. When I lived in Galway, I saw the tourists as a blessing. They also add a bit of a different outlook to the place. It's not just miserable auld f*cks complaining about the place.

    P.S. Plenty of seating in the shopping center just up the road and a few benches in Eyre Square. Again, I wouldn't have my kid sit on the statue for hygiene reasons.

    Also, in one post you said you were asked to move. Then in the other you said you were told to move. Big difference. Getting p1ssed off because somebody asked makes you seem like a bit of an arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Wompa1 wrote: »
    I wouldn't let my kid sit on that!!

    You see the carry on during the night

    P.S. Plenty of seating in the shopping center just up the road and a few benches in Eyre Square. Again, I wouldn't have my kid sit on the statue for hygiene reasons.

    I'll take some of the more interesting advice on board:)

    As for other seats, we were enjoying the little bit of sun heat and the show


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    You sound like a drama queen

    Bench has statues on it. Tourists like photographing statues.

    Show some hospitality and let them take the photos.


    3year old repeatly asked to get up from HER seat. I was sticking up for her. You did not see the confused look on her face


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Wompa1 wrote: »

    Also, in one post you said you were asked to move. Then in the other you said you were told to move. Big difference. Getting p1ssed off because somebody asked makes you seem like a bit of an arse.
    Second post could be changed technically to asked, but it was just a separate question really.

    Also when you stand over a 3 year old, first making a comment ,waiting and waiting and then asking... if feels like being told


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    ForestFire wrote: »
    3year old repeatly asked to get up from HER seat. I was sticking up for her. You did not see the confused look on her face

    YOU sat her on a bench that is obviously a tourist attraction, Hence many people taking photos of it.

    Do you really find it that difficult to be aware of your surroundings?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    YOU sat her on a bench that is obviously a tourist attraction, Hence many people taking photos of it.

    Do you really find it that difficult to be aware of your surroundings?

    She sat on it herself, might be hard to imagine but she has a mind of her own and she actually likes that bench, is she not allowed enjoy it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    If you didn't want our opinions, why did you ask?



    ForestFire wrote: »
    So do you want to shut down the small dedicated ice cream businesses that sell real ice cream, for cheap crap like fast food places as they have no seats?


    Gino's may look small cutesy and independent. But really it's a junk-food chain store from Dublin. Supermacs is a junk-food chain store from Galway. Buy local and all.

    And you didn't answer - would you have preferred the tourists to take their pix with your kid sitting on the statue? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Who in their right mind would place their daughter between these two....?

    ie267-Galway-Tartu.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    If you didn't want our opinions, why did you ask?







    Gino's may look small cutesy and independent. But really it's a junk-food chain store from Dublin. Supermacs is a junk-food chain store from Galway. Buy local and all.

    And you didn't answer - would you have preferred the tourists to take their pix with your kid sitting on the statue? Really?

    Just because I asked does not mean I have to agree or not debate them.

    You said galway is cash cow for tourists. Well they come and go very quickly you know.

    My daughter goes in at least every second week and supports multiple businesses hiring local people, walks the streets enjoys the entertainment and gives the acts some money.

    And she will be there next week too.

    And we still prefer the ginos experience for ice cream. We support supermacs on other occasions when it suits us, not them or you or the tourists.

    Maybe I should just teach her if someone bigger and older than you tried to intimidate you of your seat just roll over and take it. And just so you know we always teach her to be nice and share etc. And she did moved for the first people but there comes a point when you have to stand up for yourself.

    As for the pictures, she is on the street and dances in front of the acts every week, I imagine she is in a few pics and videos already, so unless I go down the Michael Jackson route what do you suggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    The statue was a gift to Galway from the people of Estonia, as far as I know. So I reckon the tourists have as much right to it as locals :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    degsie wrote: »
    Who in their right

    They do look a bit dodgy alright, as i said she likes that seat, and has even been up on there laps:eek:, I know, I know...we will have to explain that one much later to her I hope

    I think the hygiene, nightlife:rolleyes: info may be the only think for us to think twice about it in future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    maudgonner wrote: »
    The statue was a gift to Galway from the people of Estonia, as far as I know. So I reckon the tourists have as much right to it as locals :)

    But only the Estonians??

    Wait though...That's not how a gift works....i don't buy my wife a ps4 gift and then say I can use it too...i don't think that would go down too well:)

    In fact what you are really saying is that it was gifted to my daughter..thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭jam83


    ForestFire wrote: »
    Just because I asked does not mean I have to agree or not debate them.

    You said galway is cash cow for tourists. Well they come and go very quickly you know.

    My daughter goes in at least every second week and supports multiple businesses hiring local people, walks the streets enjoys the entertainment and gives the acts some money.

    And she will be there next week too.

    And we still prefer the ginos experience for ice cream. We support supermacs on other occasions when it suits us, not them or you or the tourists.

    Maybe I should just teach her if someone bigger and older than you tried to intimidate you of your seat just roll over and take it. And just so you know we always teach her to be nice and share etc. And she did moved for the first people but there comes a point when you have to stand up for yourself.

    As for the pictures, she is on the street and dances in front of the acts every week, I imagine she is in a few pics and videos already, so unless I go down the Michael Jackson route what do you suggest.

    You have to be joking! You sat your child down on an attraction. It's not an ordinary park bench, it's quite obviously something that tourists take photos of.

    If you are in town with your daughter as much as you say, you have surely noticed that it's nearly always used for people posing for photos?
    You sound like a nightmare.
    Telling tourists to jog on from a tourist attraction because your little bundle of joy is sitting there? <SNIP>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭jam83


    Boggy Turf wrote: »
    No I would not have moved my daughter. It is a seat and I often see people sitting there. The tourists can come back when it's empty.
    If they really want an empty picture, Google Images is your friend...;)

    Based on this you've never been anywhere as a tourist.
    The most stupid narrow minded answer imaginable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    maudgonner wrote: »
    Is your daughter Galway? I hadn't realised...


    You clearly haven't posted (on a discussion forum) with any view to a discussion or hearing people's opinions, just want to moan about the mean tourists. Maybe you should take it to Ranting & Raving instead. Or talk to Joe?

    You clearly don't see that not everything I post or read is taken serious,
    I taught the smily faces showed I was only joking a bit...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    ForestFire wrote: »
    You clearly don't see that not everything I post or read is taken serious,
    I taught the smily faces showed I was only joking a bit...

    I deleted my post as I felt it was probably a bit too strong. But no, smilies don't counteract the fact that you don't seem to be actually looking for opinions, despite the first line of the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    maudgonner wrote: »
    The statue was a gift to Galway from the people of Estonia, as far as I know. So I reckon the tourists have as much right to it as locals :)

    Nail on head. If the little kid got there first, then she should stay until she's finished her ice cream. Not a huge deal. It's for everyone.

    It's public art. There are no rules (within reason) about how you interact with it. I LOVE that it's functional as a seat and think it should be used as that occasionally (as opposed to just *pretending* you're sitting there for a photo. If someone hogs it for an hour that's one thing but to ask a kid eating an ice cream to move? I think that's a bit ignorant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭jam83


    Who ''pretends'' to sit down on a bench for a photo? The bench is part of the whole sculpture, and everyone knows people use it for photo opportunities.

    Nobody I know would see that as a seat as such. It's a sculpture or attraction that gets a lot of attention and what peace would you have sitting there?

    Sitting a child there is inviting bother on yourself and the OP must like a bit of confrontation.

    Thinking that he was teaching the child how to stand up for itself is nonsense. It didn't sound like tourists had been rude towards them. On a busy Saturday in May, it was selfish and rude to do what the OP did. Go up to eyre square and sit on a proper park bench to eat the ice cream.
    Come back down after and listen to the music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    OP needs to chill out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    ForestFire wrote: »
    My daughter goes in at least every second week and supports multiple businesses hiring local people, walks the streets enjoys the entertainment and gives the acts some money.

    How much money is your 3 yr old spending that we can get rid of the tourists and rely on her visit every two weeks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    It seems the issue arose when the lady was asked to move her daughter on more than one occasion by a succession of tourists.

    When I lived in Galway I was asked to take photographs, answer questions etc by the multitudes which come to the city each Summer. As stated elsewhere in this thread, tourists bring a lot of life and variety to an otherwise climatically dull and confined city but they can be overwhelming at times.

    My reading of the situation is that a tired toddler is perfectly entitled to sit for 10-15 minutes or whatever length of time it takes to finish an ice cream without being disturbed by other members of the public.

    It is a public facility and people should wait their turn.

    Some cultures however expect children to move in deference to their "superiors" at their every beck and call and this cultural difference between the Irish and other nations could be at play here. Were the tourists old?
    I find that old Tourists can be very demanding and feel entitled to have seats given up to them or doors opened or to skip queues and can find the less formal attitudes of the Irish to be off putting. I received numerous complaints about this especially from old Americans who expect food to be brought down to their tables in very busy bars or seats to be given up to them etc.. unfortunately, this won't happen in Galway.

    In other cultures children are very much treated like second class citizens and will not be allowed to get in the way of adults in whatever they want to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    jam83 wrote: »
    Who ''pretends'' to sit down on a bench for a photo? The bench is part of the whole sculpture, and everyone knows people use it for photo opportunities.

    Nobody I know would see that as a seat as such. It's a sculpture or attraction that gets a lot of attention and what peace would you have sitting there?

    Sitting a child there is inviting bother on yourself and the OP must like a bit of confrontation.

    Thinking that he was teaching the child how to stand up for itself is nonsense. It didn't sound like tourists had been rude towards them. On a busy Saturday in May, it was selfish and rude to do what the OP did. Go up to eyre square and sit on a proper park bench to eat the ice cream.
    Come back down after and listen to the music.

    Again I clarify a few points.

    She wanted to stop and see what was happing in show. She choose to sit on the seat and neither myself or my wife sat on seat.
    Is she not allowed use enjoy seat, how did we look for confrontaion by allowing her to enjoy her day? There were no tourist or picture talking when we arrived.

    If this was a group of teens or some big bikers or some of the numerous hens stags do you think they would ask them to leave? They picked on a 3 year old stood over her so yes I would say they were rude. We only asked them could they wait until she finishes her ice cream, she had already been up once.

    You ask a 3 year old to walk to Eyre square and back, why can't the tourists walk around and come back in a few mins

    This is our city to enjoy too, and the seat is used as a seat all the time. I have seen numerous people eat the sandwiches there.

    We we not stuck on the seat all day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    How much money is your 3 yr old spending that we can get rid of the tourists and rely on her visit every two weeks?

    She spends a lot more than the tourist that asked her to move, she did not stop every tourist that ever visits and she was only there for 10mins

    Do you know the cost or raising a child

    We actually got our engagement ring right there in Lazlos


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,394 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    doolox wrote: »
    It seems the issue arose when the lady was asked to move her daughter on more than one occasion by a succession of tourists.

    When I lived in Galway I was asked to take photographs, answer questions etc by the multitudes which come to the city each Summer. As stated elsewhere in this thread, tourists bring a lot of life and variety to an otherwise climatically dull and confined city but they can be overwhelming at times.

    My reading of the situation is that a tired toddler is perfectly entitled to sit for 10-15 minutes or whatever length of time it takes to finish an ice cream without being disturbed by other members of the public.

    It is a public facility and people should wait their turn.

    Some cultures however expect children to move in deference to their "superiors" at their every beck and call and this cultural difference between the Irish and other nations could be at play here. Were the tourists old?
    I find that old Tourists can be very demanding and feel entitled to have seats given up to them or doors opened or to skip queues and can find the less formal attitudes of the Irish to be off putting. I received numerous complaints about this especially from old Americans who expect food to be brought down to their tables in very busy bars or seats to be given up to them etc.. unfortunately, this won't happen in Galway.

    In other cultures children are very much treated like second class citizens and will not be allowed to get in the way of adults in whatever they want to do.

    It's not a public facility. It's not a toilet or Park bench or parking space. It's a sculpture which is pictured by hundreds/thousands every day at this time of year. It was naive in the extreme by the OP to just assume they weren't going to have people want to photograph it. And their reaction sounds like someone who wants an argument and is easily offended. The city is built on, and relies on tourism, there are lots of areas in it to go and have a sit down without tourists wanting to take photos of them e.g. the Waterside, Spanish Arch, Eyre Square, ESC, Long Walk and all along the river.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    Most of the tourists I see coming to my area are all in camper Vans and would spend very little in the area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭sunny2004


    Most of the tourists I see coming to my area are all in camper Vans and would spend very little in the area.

    Unfounded and silly statement.

    im still trying to work this out, you can tell a tourist when they walk down the road ? Or are you saying you can only tell tourists if they have a camper van ?


    So a tourist from the UK you can spot in a crowd ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    sunny2004 wrote: »
    Unfounded and silly statement.

    im still trying to work this out, you can tell a tourist when they walk down the road ? Or are you saying you can only tell tourists if they have a camper van ?


    So a tourist from the UK you can spot in a crowd ?

    A fair few camper/caravan visitors from the North bring alot of what they need with them. Its obvious why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 341 ✭✭jam83


    I think letting your child sit on something's that's an attraction, and used for photo opportunities, is inconsiderate.
    Tourists are the lifeblood of Galway. And I'm not talking about bending over backwards for them but I think you could ask your daughter to move if she's sitting on a tourist attraction.
    That's my opinion. I think you were wrong. I said confrontation because I personally wouldn't do what you did, letting your daughter sit there on a busy Saturday, because it would invite hassle (friendly and all as that might be). You obviously didn't mind the hassle. I think it was selfish of you but that's my opinion,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Tourists are very important to the economy of not just Galway but of the entire West. We should welcome them and talk to them.

    However as an experienced father and grandfather I believe the average kid will eat an icecream in about two minutes. Most people would wait for that, or ( with the parents' permission ) include the kid in the photo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭sunny2004


    A fair few camper/caravan visitors from the North bring alot of what they need with them. Its obvious why.

    not sure you understood what I was replying to, please go back and read the post I had quoted. thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    sunny2004 wrote: »
    Unfounded and silly statement.

    im still trying to work this out, you can tell a tourist when they walk down the road ? Or are you saying you can only tell tourists if they have a camper van ?


    So a tourist from the UK you can spot in a crowd ?

    In reply to you still trying to work out what I meant in my post. I haven't got a clue what your on about tourists walking down road's and spotting tourists in crowd's. Perhaps you should read what I posted again. And you might reconsider your silly post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,538 ✭✭✭sunny2004


    In reply to you still trying to work out what I meant in my post. I haven't got a clue what your on about tourists walking down road's and spotting tourists in crowd's. Perhaps you should read what I posted again. And you might reconsider your silly post

    By way of simplicity, are you saying you can tell a tourist on foot ?

    You seem to quantify your tourist information based on their mode of transport.

    My point was painfully simple, you are like all of us unable to calculate tourists who are on foot..


    I actually though my original post was simple to understand..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    It's not a public facility. It's not a toilet or Park bench or parking space. It's a sculpture which is pictured by hundreds/thousands every day at this time of year. It was naive in the extreme by the OP to just assume they weren't going to have people want to photograph it. And their reaction sounds like someone who wants an argument and is easily offended. The city is built on, and relies on tourism, there are lots of areas in it to go and have a sit down without tourists wanting to take photos of them e.g. the Waterside, Spanish Arch, Eyre Square, ESC, Long Walk and all along the river.

    But it IS a public facility. It is public art. It does not come with rules saying 'do not touch' 'do not photograph' 'do not sit' etc. Do you not think the artist knew that it would entice people to sit? Of course they did. What if someone is Sparching and has a picnic out and then some tourists ask you to move so they can get a full view? Not a chance! This smacks of plastic on the couch, except when the 'visitors' come. It was a KID ffs. As another poster pointed out she would probably only take up a few minutes. Common sense with an adult, but a kid. FFS come back later or ask can you take a photo with her in it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,398 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    jam83 wrote: »
    Who ''pretends'' to sit down on a bench for a photo? The bench is part of the whole sculpture, and everyone knows people use it for photo opportunities.

    Nobody I know would see that as a seat as such. It's a sculpture or attraction that gets a lot of attention and what peace would you have sitting there?

    Who pretends? Seriously? Have you never tourists 'fake' reading a book in the middle while someone snaps them. Or pretending to snooze? I've seen them. It's like the sitting equivalent of 'selfie face!' LOL.

    And you say nobody would see that as a seat. Obviously this little kid did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,394 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    inisboffin wrote: »
    But it IS a public facility. It is public art. It does not come with rules saying 'do not touch' 'do not photograph' 'do not sit' etc. Do you not think the artist knew that it would entice people to sit? Of course they did. What if someone is Sparching and has a picnic out and then some tourists ask you to move so they can get a full view? Not a chance! This smacks of plastic on the couch, except when the 'visitors' come. It was a KID ffs. As another poster pointed out she would probably only take up a few minutes. Common sense with an adult, but a kid. FFS come back later or ask can you take a photo with her in it too.

    If you cant see the difference with getting a photo of a small sculpture and getting a photo anywhere around a large space like the Spanish Arch then there's little point debating the issue. As for common sense, well if it was used by the adult then the situation wouldn't have arisen in the first place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Tourist-"Hi. Do you mind moving your child, so I can take a photo.
    Local-" She's just finishing her ice cream. We'll move as soon as she's done"

    If the conversation continues past that, politely ignore the tourist and enjoy the day with the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    If you cant see the difference with getting a photo of a small sculpture and getting a photo anywhere around a large space like the Spanish Arch then there's little point debating the issue. As for common sense, well if it was used by the adult then the situation wouldn't have arisen in the first place.

    So what exactly do you tell a 3yo child?
    The seat is free and she wants to sit down.
    No you can't sit there?
    But there is already a lady sitting there and there is a space free.
    No you still can't sit there?
    I'm tired I've been up since 7 and out all day and I want to sit to eat my tub.
    No you can't sit there?

    I don't get why people seem to think I was looking for confrontation or should to a different ice cream place or a different area.

    We were there because we had dental appointment and going to shops in the area.

    I don't want a long walk along the river, I don't want to have to carry the ice cream until it melts to eat. We are on our way home at this stage.

    It's the first time this has ever happened and did almost as fergiesfolly said except it happen more than once and them just standing over us to move.

    I've no problem with tourist but they need to be considerate too of locals and kids. We did not deliberately sit there to annoy anyway. As I said it was first time it happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    ForestFire wrote: »
    So what exactly do you tell a 3yo child?
    The seat is free and she wants to sit down.
    No you can't sit there?
    But there is already a lady sitting there and there is a space free.
    No you still can't sit there?
    I'm tired I've been up since 7 and out all day and I want to sit to eat my tub.
    No you can't sit there?

    I don't get why people seem to think I was looking for confrontation or should to a different ice cream place or a different area.

    We were there because we had dental appointment and going to shops in the area.

    I don't want a long walk along the river, I don't want to have to carry the ice cream until it melts to eat. We are on our way home at this stage.

    It's the first time this has ever happened and did almost as ferriesfolly said except it happen more than once and them just standing over us to move.

    I've no problem with tourist but they need to be considerate too of locals and kids


    Stop explaining yourself, you did nothing wrong.
    If others disagree with you, let them off.

    The tourist arse licking on this thread is sickening.
    When I'm abroad, I'm polite, courteous, patient and respectful towards all, but especially towards the locals. I'm a guest in their city and wouldn't want to put them out.
    If the tourists coming here can't behave the same, let them feck off home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,394 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Stop explaining yourself, you did nothing wrong.
    If others disagree with you, let them off.

    The tourist arse licking on this thread is sickening.
    When I'm abroad, I'm polite, courteous, patient and respectful towards all, but especially towards the locals. I'm a guest in their city and wouldn't want to put them out.
    If the tourists coming here can't behave the same, let them feck off home.

    Ah yes I see, misbehaving by taking photos of points of interest. The OP is defending themselves after every post, they asked for opinions and have gotten ones which mostly disagree with them. They can sit where they want obviously, free country and all that but they shouldn't be offended by tourists wanting photos of a sculpture. There are far better locations to sit and enjoy the outdoors than the bustling main street. Drunks and junkies are the only ones I've ever seen sit there for any period of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,372 ✭✭✭893bet


    Storm in a teacup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 ching


    Passed by here today and seen a father and daughter eating ice cream.. was going to ask them to move so I could get a photo but thought I better not just incase the tourist police were called on me..
    Totally agree a child is entitled to sit down but also as that is a tourist attraction it may occur when sitting there that tourists would like to take photos without other people in them..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,275 ✭✭✭bobbyss


    maudgonner wrote: »
    The statue was a gift to Galway from the people of Estonia, as far as I know. So I reckon the tourists have as much right to it as locals :)

    Yes you are right.

    Two gents with similar names who never visited the city as far as I know.

    Galway and the people of Estonia? What did we do to deserve it I wonder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    Ah yes I see, misbehaving by taking photos of points of interest. The OP is defending themselves after every post, they asked for opinions and have gotten ones which mostly disagree with them. They can sit where they want obviously, free country and all that but they shouldn't be offended by tourists wanting photos of a sculpture. There are far better locations to sit and enjoy the outdoors than the bustling main street. Drunks and junkies are the only ones I've ever seen sit there for any period of time.

    Yes I asked for opinions and was interested, but that does not mean I have to accept them or not clarify or challenge them. Especially when someone says that a random tourist contributes more to Galway that us (per head/or the 10mins of tourist while we were there). Also people telling us were to go and what to do or we were looking for aggression.

    Also why would I not defend us and our three year old daughter.

    As I said this was the first time this happened to us, and once we were there I was shocked the way they tried to intimidate a 3yo off her seat.

    Finally it was not a storm in a tea cup, more like a gentle ripple??(If that makes sense- ie nothing at all). I will proable try to avoid it in future for my daughters sake only, but I will keep an eye on the location to see how it's used over the summer.

    In the end there are people that don't agree with me and some that do and that's fine.

    No one has answered the question though...

    If you were visiting somewhere as a tourist would you ask a 3yo eating to move from somewhere to get a photo, even if after seeing she was once disturbed already and regardless if it was a proper seat or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,670 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    ching wrote: »
    Passed by here today and seen a father and daughter eating ice cream.. was going to ask them to move so I could get a photo but thought I better not just incase the tourist police were called on me..
    Totally agree a child is entitled to sit down but also as that is a tourist attraction it may occur when sitting there that tourists would like to take photos without other people in them..

    That was us:) I brought a full days supply of icecream with me, poor girl is going to be sick in the morning:o

    Joke by the way, just in case :D


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