Sports or Hairdressers car?

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Would you classify an Audi TT 350BHP with a 0-100KPH of 4.8 seconds a sports car or is it a sports coupe?

Can a sports coupe be a sports car?

I'd like not to bias the question with my opinion.


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Vicxas

Does the car make you smile when you drive it?

Then that's all that matters.

dar83

Is it pink and does it advertise a Salon?


If the answer to this is yes, then it may just be a hairdressers car.

Cheensbo

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

Someone in the pub being a díck?

I would have said its both, being a sports car and a coupe.. its hardly an estate.

Isambard

Handsome is as handsome does.

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No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

Cheensbo wrote: »

Someone in the pub being a díck?

No Just gauging opinions. I'm considering it, but something niggling at back of my mind.

07Lapierre

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Would you classify an Audi TT 350BHP with a 0-100KPH of 4.8 seconds a sports car or is it a sports coupe?

Can a sports coupe be a sports car?

I'd like not to bias the question with my opinion.

Ah go on! tell us!

bladespin

TiTs, that's what you're thinking, just sayin.

With acceleration like that, it's sporty but not fast IMO.

sasta le

LIGHTNING wrote: »

If you need somebody to tell you a car is or isnt a hairdressers car then you have other issues to worry about :pac:

Former owner of a TT and now the owner of a tiny 667cc coupe car

667 coupe car im curious?

Wibbs

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

bladespin wrote: »

With acceleration like that, it's sporty but not fast IMO.

Sub five seconds to 60 isn't fast these days? That's gonna be well ahead of the vast majority of cars on the road. That's a gee hair slower than a 911 Carrera and a second odd faster than a Focus ST and nearly a second faster than a Civic Type R. That's not fast? Eh what?

bladespin

Wibbs wrote: »

Sub five seconds to 60 isn't fast these days? That's gonna be well ahead of the vast majority of cars on the road. That's a gee hair slower than a 911 Carrera and a second odd faster than a Focus ST and nearly a second faster than a Civic Type R. That's not fast? Eh what?

Not as far as I'd be concerned, I don't drive a fast car (not much use for it) but have my own set of standards.

Not trying to bend anyone out of shape but for me it would have to be pretty special to be 'fast'.

0-60 sub 3 = fast.

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bladespin wrote: »

Not as far as I'd be concerned, I don't drive a fast car (not much use for it) but have my own set of standards.

Not trying to bend anyone out of shape but for me it would have to be pretty special to be 'fast'.

0-60 sub 3 = fast.

Is that not super sports car territory? Is a Porsche 911 not fast?

I know this is semantics, and everyone has their own opinion.

bladespin

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Is that not super sports car territory? Is a Porsche 911 not fast?

I know this is semantics, and everyone has their own opinion.

I ride bikes, different definition of fast.

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bladespin wrote: »

I ride bikes, different definition of fast.

Ah, the poor man's sports car :pac::P

bladespin

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Ah an organ donor that explains it :pac:

Nope, not signed up for that one but thanks and all the best to you too.

It's just not what I'd call fast, simples.

bladespin

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Ah, the poor man's SUPER car :pac::P

Oh yes, they'll make you poor alright corrected your post btw.



But honestly, calling a TT a sports car isn't right, is it? Sports cars are fast, evil beasts that eat the planet, a name that makes you imagine Porsches, TVRs, and other crazy insane cars, not an Audi TT.

goochy

Men should not drive sports cars unless its something like lotus or porsche . And certainly not any car that looks pretty.

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bladespin wrote: »

But honestly, calling a TT a sports car isn't right, is it? Sports cars are fast, evil beasts that eat the planet, a name that makes you imagine Porsches, TVRs, and other crazy insane cars, not an Audi TT.

This is the kind of thing I was looking for. What's the perception?

Thanks

Zubeneschamali

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Would you classify an Audi TT 350BHP with a 0-100KPH of 4.8 seconds a sports car or is it a sports coupe?

No.

I don't think those classifications mean anything.

bladespin

LIGHTNING wrote: »

A Mx-5 is neither and its one of the best little sports cars you can buy.

Yes, it's a lovely little car. hint.

Nothing against the MX 5 (a cracking car) but it's not the first car you think of when you hear the term 'sports car' is it? Be honest now

Maybe it's me but these are cars you buy when you want a sports car but either can't live with one or can't afford one.

Stopping now as it's off topic, OP asked for opinion and gave mine.

biko

I could drive a pink Mini and still be secure in my masculinity.

bladespin

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Its the best selling sports car of all time so yeah its one of the first cars when somebody asks about sports cars. You seem to be stuck in the past where sports cars were dangerous to drive and/or broke your heart/bank.

Probably but was asked and gave my opinion, that's what I think when I see a TT, MX, MR2 (old ones were nice) etc.
The Supra, M3 would be cars I'd see regularly and think of as 'sports' my tuppence.

bladespin

OSI wrote: »

If I'm playing 5 a side with the lads on an astroturf pitch for fun, am I not allowed to define it as sport because I'm not playing in a half billion pound stadium?

Don't know anything about golf, sorry.

jimmycrackcorm

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Would you classify an Audi TT 350BHP with a 0-100KPH of 4.8 seconds a sports car or is it a sports coupe?

Clearly an Audi TT is a woman's car so definitely doesn't come under the sports category or any variation thereof.

ScumLord

I think the reason people see the audis as lesser sports cars is because of all the aids and the cars balance, they're great tools for going fast but don't require as much input or skill by the driver.

Something like an MX5 is just a sports car, it's not much good at anything else, audis are often great all rounders. They're a way to dip your toe into sports cars without having it bitten off.

Wibbs

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

bladespin wrote: »

The Supra, M3 would be cars I'd see regularly and think of as 'sports' my tuppence.

The four seater M3? Sports saloon yes, sports car, especially by what seems to be your definition, no. And few of the M3's since the first one would beat a 0-60 time of 4.8 seconds. The first one the E30(and the most valuable of them) got to 60 in just barely under 7 seconds. "Not fast" by your definition. The Audi would murder it(though I'd far prefer the E30). There are a shedload of Ferrari models, "pure" sportscars, that the Audi would murder.

bladespin

jimmycrackcorm wrote:

Clearly an Audi TT is a woman's car so definitely doesn't come under the sports category or any variation thereof.

This, it's down to perception really, some cars you look at and go wow, others you just see someone who's nipped out in the wife's car. Wrongly most of the time I'm sure, but that's how it is.
I'm sure the op doesn't want to spend his days explaining to people their misconcetions and would rather just
enjoy the drive.

Wibbs

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

ScumLord wrote: »

I think the reason people see the audis as lesser sports cars is because of all the aids and the cars balance, they're great tools for going fast but don't require as much input or skill by the driver.

Though to be fair you could say that of the majority of modern cars. I can't think of one that doesn't feature driver's aids and a few of them.

Wibbs

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

bladespin wrote: »

I'm sure the op doesn't want to spend his days explaining to people their misconcetions and would rather just
enjoy the drive.

Maybe, but jaysus, how delicate an ego would you have to possess with that sort of thinking?

ScumLord

Wibbs wrote: »

Though to be fair you could say that of the majority of modern cars. I can't think of one that doesn't feature driver's aids and a few of them.

I don't think they are ever fully off in the audis though. The likes of the GT86 and MX5 off means off, in the audis it's sort of off until it thinks you've had enough and turns itself back on again.

Not that most people would ever really need to turn off traction control outside of a track setting but on track the audis TC can really interfere, which makes them a poor choice for a purest.

They vere to much towards safety too, I don't think it's much good at lift off oversteer like the hot hatches, loads of understeer which is annoying on a track rather than rewarding.

I know, people don't need that and most will never drive it on a track or anywhere near it's limits but it all goes against the reputation of the car as a sports car.

07Lapierre

My first car was a Datsun 240z,
In 2007 I had an AudiTT
My present car is a Toyota GT86

I guess I should be an expert hairdresser by now, but I'm not!

Cee-Jay-Cee

It's an Audi TT.

If I asked someone what kind of car they drive and they told me a Sports car, I'd immediately switch off and roll my eyes to heaven without rolling my eyes. People who own/drive fast cars don't call them sports cars. People who nothing about cars call fast cars/coupes 'sports cars' as they're clueless.

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Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

It's an Audi TT.

*sigh*

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No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

07Lapierre wrote: »

My first car was a Datsun 240z,
In 2007 I had an AudiTT
My present car is a Toyota GT86

I guess I should be an expert hairdresser by now, but I'm not!

I'll have a three blade on the sides and scissors on top please.

SBPhoto

The new Audi TT RS does 0-62mph in just under 3.7sec and are classed as a Sports Coupe

ShadowHearth

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Nonsense, a sports car doesnt have to be fast or evil. A Mx-5 is neither and its one of the best little sports cars you can buy.

From all the cars I owned, mx5 was still my favourite and the most fun drive.
I was a 22stone bearded hairdresser driving it and zero ****s given. :pac:

On topic: if its not pink micra convertable, then its not a hairdresser car.

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No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

Sooo....

I asked the local audi dealer about lead times etc. for a 181 audi TT. Cue them saying, shur, take one away for the weekend. I bought it rather than return it.

It's the 2l 230 BHP auto* version and not the TTS, but it's significantly sportier than my previous non slouch car.

It was a demo, spec'd up for just over €60k, registered 1st March, 2017 - purchased for €49k straight (no trade in).

Is it a sports car, I dunno. It's the best/most fun car I've driven by a country mile.

I read a review recently saying that the MK3 TT is a far better performer than the MK 1 version which was better known for its aesthetics. Maybe that's where the hairdresser preconceptions are.


* unless you're a rally driver, I think these cars perform better as autos.

kona

bladespin wrote: »

Not as far as I'd be concerned, I don't drive a fast car (not much use for it) but have my own set of standards.

Not trying to bend anyone out of shape but for me it would have to be pretty special to be 'fast'.

0-60 sub 3 = fast.

Lol.:pac:

Eric Cartman

It really depends.



the first ten is certainly a hairdressers car with its completely un-intimidating face.

By Gen 3 its a pretty angry looking machine I'd be happy to drive.

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SBPhoto wrote: »

The new Audi TT RS does 0-62mph in just under 3.7sec and are classed as a Sports Coupe

Porsche's are classed as coupes as well.

I confused my own thread with that.

unkel

bladespin wrote:

0-60 sub 3 = fast.

LOL! Sub 3s is million euro hyper car territory! Would there even be one car in Ireland that can do that?

I had a first Gen TT but with the quattro (mostly FWD), the turbo and the small 4 cylinder engine and the drivers aids it was a bit soulless to me. Would I still call it a sports car? Sure why not. I now have a RWD mid engined Porsche with a very loud flat 6 engine

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unkel wrote: »

I now have a RWD mid engined Porsche with a very loud flat 6 engine

We need to meet up, swap cars for a spin and put this eternal question to rest once and for all :pac:

bladespin

unkel wrote:

LOL! Sub 3s is million euro hyper car territory! Would there even be one car in Ireland that can do that?

Not unique to million euro cars, plenty of bikes can manage it, you can go 'fast' for less than a thousand euro.
For me the car's a workhorse, the bike's for fun; fast fun.

CalamariFritti

No, I expect Peter Mark has a fleet of them

The Audi TT is a very good looking car, inside and outside. A very successful design that will be remembered. Wouldn't care what anyone says. Its a sports coupe so what, in a world full of almeras and octavias its a monster.

Pugzilla

Bikes are on a different planet in terms of performance and excitement.
Even supercars, which might have similar performance on paper, will feel sanitised and sterile in comparison.

Feel sorry for some of the car drivers in here that have been brain washed by the health and safety brigade.

You can't wheelie or drag knee in a car...

mloc123

bladespin wrote: »

Not unique to million euro cars, plenty of bikes can manage it, you can go 'fast' for less than a thousand euro.
For me the car's a workhorse, the bike's for fun; fast fun.

This is the motors forum tho...

Of course bikes are slow compared to a jet... I feel sorry for people on motorbikes that have never flown a jet, you can't barrel roll on a bike.

tossy

mloc123 wrote: »

This is the motors forum tho...

Of course bikes are slow compared to a jet... I feel sorry for people on motorbikes that have never flown a jet, you can't barrel roll on a bike.

Now now don't feed the trolls they are all narky after a weekend of riding around in 25 degree heat in their village people outfits

That's a joke by the way before you all jump on your motorbycycles and form a posse.

OP best of luck with the new CAR you will find plenty of advice and help here on the MOTORS forum among fellow CAR enthusiasts . Is it quattro ? The 2.0 TFSI is a great lump.

bladespin

mloc123 wrote: »

This is the motors forum tho...

Of course bikes are slow compared to a jet... I feel sorry for people on motorbikes that have never flown a jet, you can't barrel roll on a bike.

You can, I have done (wouldn't recommend it as it's a fairly short lived and usually painful experience. Bikes aren't too slow compared to a jet either,

BUT You can't stoppie a jet though.;)

Yes it is a motors forum; my comment were made in relation to 'fast' cars, as stated previously I'm not trying to get on the wrong side of anyone just pointing out that, for me, a 'fast' car would be something special, not something you'd see parked outside the local hairdresser.

BTW, I like cars too, not a chip on the shoulder rider, I prefer 4x4s but each to their own.

07Lapierre

Pugzilla wrote: »

Bikes are on a different planet in terms of performance and excitement.
Even supercars, which might have similar performance on paper, will feel sanitised and sterile in comparison.

Feel sorry for some of the car drivers in here that have been brain washed by the health and safety brigade.

You can't wheelie or drag knee in a car...

My Money was on Guy Martin....I Lost! (I Know..not a fair test really, but I was very surprised that the car won)

https://youtu.be/7tlxG1-aWtI

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tossy wrote: »

Now now don't feed the trolls they are all narky after a weekend of riding around in 25 degree heat in their village people outfits

That's a joke by the way before you all jump on your motorbycycles and form a posse.

:D:D

tossy wrote: »

OP best of luck with the new CAR you will find plenty of advice and help here on the MOTORS forum among fellow CAR enthusiasts . Is it quattro ? The 2.0 TFSI is a great lump.

Cheers, it's the Quattro.

It's a pity the poll was made private, lost most of it relevance once changed.

bladespin

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:D:D



Cheers, it's the Quattro.

It's a pity the poll was made private, lost most of it relevance once changed.

I's a lovely car OP, tbh, just like I say to anyone considering a change, it's you that has to scratch the itch so let your own heart/head make the decision, this thread is a bit like the old TG cool wall.