cadetship competition 2017

Trout27

Hello,

Couple of quick questions for people who've gone through the competition in recent years.

Why does the fitness test/group assessment require an overnight stay? is it because the fitness test is done one day and the group assessment done the following day?

I've read from a few places that there is a second supervised psychometric test on the day but any emails i've gotten from the recruitment office havent mentioned it so maybe its not done anymore? i tried contacting them about this but no reply.

Last question! if you manage to get through to the next stage, does anyone know roughly the time between them? as in will the interview be as quick as 2 weeks after the fitness test or more likely several weeks?

Thanks.

Oruam

I've never gone through the competition before, so I don't know neither why the overnight stay nor the time between the stages.

But I've passed the online test and in the invitation to stage 2 e-mail they say that there will be: Fitness Test, Realistic Job Preview, Group Assessments and Psychometric Testing.
So I deduce that candidates are asked to take the test again, supervised.

However, I have to withdraw from the competition. Does anyone know whether I should tell the Recruitment office or not reporting at the given date is enough? Haven't found this info anywhere

It wasn't me!

Oruam wrote: »

I've never gone through the competition before, so I don't know neither why the overnight stay nor the time between the stages.

But I've passed the online test and in the invitation to stage 2 e-mail they say that there will be: Fitness Test, Realistic Job Preview, Group Assessments and Psychometric Testing.
So I deduce that candidates are asked to take the test again, supervised.

However, I have to withdraw from the competition. Does anyone know whether I should tell the Recruitment office or not reporting at the given date is enough? Haven't found this info anywhere

If you don't turn up you'll simply be removed from the competition. However, I'm sure an email wouldn't go amiss either. Always nice to tell people these things.

Oruam

I agree. I just didn't know if there was a formal withdrawal procedure.

Anyway, it's a pity that I can't try it, especially because, with the new rules (the next year the upper age limit should be 27, and I'll be 27 before September) this is the only time I can compete.

Best of luck to you, if you're competing!

BadBannana

Got the email for stage 2 there, check your email if you haven't gotten it already

Oruam

BadBannana wrote: »

Got the email for stage 2 there, check your email if you haven't gotten it already

I've got it, but I'm abroad and can't come to Ireland, so I won't be able to take part to it.

Btw, does anyone have an idea of how many could have been invited to stage 2?

Trout27

Ah yes got the email today too. im in the 27th. Oruam i've absolutely no idea of numbers someone on here might though.

Pat_custard

Hey lads,
yea just got an email the other day about the stage two I'm scheduled in for Wednesday the 21st so pretty excited. A little anxious about the grop assessment because I don't really know what to expect if anybody has done this stage before and would like to shed some light on what to expect in the group assessment that'd be great! The rest of the day I'm not too worried about really looking forward to the job preview from current cadets. Does anybody know does the overnight serve any purpose? as in the email says we will be leaving at around 9:30 the next morning which means it looks like we'll just be staying there for the sake of it? Maybe to see if we like the idea of spending time away from home.
BTW what has everybody applied to? I went for army line and army engineering

Trout27

i read smewhere, possibly on this site, that the group assessment is done in small groups of 6-8. You're given a sheet with details of a kind of military scenario that needs to be discussed and figured out among the group within a given timeframe. There's no one correct answer to it, they're more looking at how you interact with the group.
Don't know what the story is with the overnight stay.
i also read about the fitness test that someone who barely scrapes through and does the run in just under 11.30 and the minimum 20 push ups/sit ups will be given the same result as someone busting themselves doing a 9.30 run and 60 push ups/sit ups, as its a pass/fail test. No extra marks given.

I'm not saying this is entirely accurate now since i only read this info off forums and the posts might have been a few years old. hopefully somebody can verify it for us.

BadBannana

Trout27 wrote: »

i read smewhere, possibly on this site, that the group assessment is done in small groups of 6-8. You're given a sheet with details of a kind of military scenario that needs to be discussed and figured out among the group within a given timeframe. There's no one correct answer to it, they're more looking at how you interact with the group.
Don't know what the story is with the overnight stay.
i also read about the fitness test that someone who barely scrapes through and does the run in just under 11.30 and the minimum 20 push ups/sit ups will be given the same result as someone busting themselves doing a 9.30 run and 60 push ups/sit ups, as its a pass/fail test. No extra marks given.

I'm not saying this is entirely accurate now since i only read this info off forums and the posts might have been a few years old. hopefully somebody can verify it for us.

You're right about the pass/fail in the fitness test

Trout27

so are you saying im wrong about the group assessment?! i could very well be by the way.

Trout27

Hey Pat_custard good luck tomorrow. let us know what you thought of it all.

BadBannana

Trout27 wrote: »

so are you saying im wrong about the group assessment?! i could very well be by the way.

No you were right, it's all in the manual they sent out to us

Soolander

Have the Stage 2 coming up next week. When doing the aptitude tests a few weeks ago it said in the email I could use a calculator for the maths bit if need be. I did come in handy and fortunately I made it through. Does anyone know if candidates will be allowed to use a calculator during the supervised tests? I don't want to be that guy but it was handy to have. Cheers.

BadBannana

Soolander wrote: »

Have the Stage 2 coming up next week. When doing the aptitude tests a few weeks ago it said in the email I could use a calculator for the maths bit if need be. I did come in handy and fortunately I made it through. Does anyone know if candidates will be allowed to use a calculator during the supervised tests? I don't want to be that guy but it was handy to have. Cheers.

I'm doing it tomorrow, I'll tell you if lads were allowed to use them

Soolander

Appreciate it mate cheers.

MeganeMan

Hi lads, Army Line applicant here.
I've got my visit this Tuesday, and there are just a few things that are confusing me a bit; for the push ups and sit ups, do we have to do them both within the same minute, or do we get a minute for each set? The wording is different in almost every place I look :P

Also, this is probably reserved for the medical, but is it held against me if I have to wear glasses? I know I meet the corrected vision requirements with them on, but I was just wondering if the army gives preferences to lads who don't need them (doesn't help that I've never seen an officer with specs before!).

Finally, does anybody who's already been mind giving an estimate of how big the groups are each day?

Hopefully I'll get to meet some of ye on the other side

leatherjacket

MeganeMan wrote: »

Hi lads, Army Line applicant here.
I've got my visit this Tuesday, and there are just a few things that are confusing me a bit; for the push ups and sit ups, do we have to do them both within the same minute, or do we get a minute for each set? The wording is different in almost every place I look :P

Also, this is probably reserved for the medical, but is it held against me if I have to wear glasses? I know I meet the corrected vision requirements with them on, but I was just wondering if the army gives preferences to lads who don't need them (doesn't help that I've never seen an officer with specs before!).

Finally, does anybody who's already been mind giving an estimate of how big the groups are each day?

Hopefully I'll get to meet some of ye on the other side

My visit is tomorrow also. I'm applying to the Air Corps so we've to meet in Casement aerodrome. I'm 99% sure it's 60 seconds for 20 pushps, then 60 seconds for 20 situps. They say it clearly in this video

I just had a look at the T&Cs document they sent out to check your query regarding eyesight. Here's everything they said about eyesight for the Army Line:

Eyesight must be surgically untreated and colour vision must be normal. Both eyes must be free from disfiguring or incapacitating abnormality and free from acute or chronic disease. There must be no evidence of squint or latent squint. Applicants who have had previous incisional or laser treatment to correct visual acuity are excluded from eligibility.

Vision must be not less than 6/18 in each eye, corrected to not less than 6/6 in one eye and 6/9 in the other.

Not sure about the group size that will turn up. I think when they split us up we're put into groups of 7/8 but I've no idea how many there will be on the day. I imagine a good few though. Will be fairly alright since nobody will know anybody I reckon, so it's a good time to get chatting while we're waiting around throughout the day.

Tomorrow should be good craic! Best of luck

leatherjacket

Anyone know what you're supposed to wear down when you first arrive? Do we wear our training gear first since it's near the beginning or do we wear casual and then change?

BadBannana

leatherjacket wrote: »

Anyone know what you're supposed to wear down when you first arrive? Do we wear our training gear first since it's near the beginning or do we wear casual and then change?

Casual then change.

No calculators lads

leatherjacket

BadBannana wrote: »

Casual then change.

No calculators lads

Thanks for getting back to us. How'd you find it overall?

BadBannana

Bring all the stuff you were told to. They turned people away without it. Don't go mad on the run, there's a little slope before you turn around. Bring a big bottle of water because it's a long day

leatherjacket

BadBannana wrote: »

Bring all the stuff you were told to. They turned people away without it. Don't go mad on the run, there's a little slope before you turn around. Bring a big bottle of water because it's a long day

Ah, good to know. Where did you do it? For the Air Corps we've to go to Casement Aerodrome. I assume for the Army line it's different?

Soolander

Ah shame about the calculator. I've a feeling my test scores will vastly differ now haha.

Is the day full on or is there some break time between each of the assessments? Will we be with the same group for the whole day?
Is the fitness test done first thing?
If a person was to fail the fitness test would they be sent home then and there or was there any reason to stick around for the rest of the day?

Sorry about all the questions just a bit nervous for tomorrow:p

leatherjacket

Soolander wrote: »

Ah shame about the calculator. I've a feeling my test scores will vastly differ now haha.

Is the day full on or is there some break time between each of the assessments? Will we be with the same group for the whole day?
Is the fitness test done first thing?
If a person was to fail the fitness test would they be sent home then and there or was there any reason to stick around for the rest of the day?

Sorry about all the questions just a bit nervous for tomorrow:p

You going to Casement tomorrow or somewhere else?

Soolander

Yup I'll be in Casement. How are you feeling about it?

leatherjacket

Soolander wrote: »

Yup I'll be in Casement. How are you feeling about it?

Not sure what to expect but everyone will be in the same boat I reckon except those who tried last year. What about you?

Also we're meeting the front gate entrance isn't it?

BadBannana

Soolander wrote: »

Ah shame about the calculator. I've a feeling my test scores will vastly differ now haha.

Is the day full on or is there some break time between each of the assessments? Will we be with the same group for the whole day?
Is the fitness test done first thing?
If a person was to fail the fitness test would they be sent home then and there or was there any reason to stick around for the rest of the day?

Sorry about all the questions just a bit nervous for tomorrow:p

-There's breaks for food
-You're in a big group but we stuck with the lads we'd be going through group assessment with
-Registration then weighing, pushups and sit-ups, then running
-If you fail any these it's straight home for you

Pat_custard

Hey guys done my assessment day last Wednesday just got an email this morning from the guards about my vetting application does anybody know if this is a good indication for getting to stage 3 or do all applicants have to fill it out regardless how ye got on in stage 2?

leatherjacket

Pat_custard wrote: »

Hey guys done my assessment day last Wednesday just got an email this morning from the guards about my vetting application does anybody know if this is a good indication for getting to stage 3 or do all applicants have to fill it out regardless how ye got on in stage 2?

I got my email about Garda vetting a few days ago before I even did the assessment day so I wouldn't look into it too much.

irishguy3000

Has anyone heard of when we should find out if we have gotten an interview or not?

leatherjacket

irishguy3000 wrote: »

Has anyone heard of when we should find out if we have gotten an interview or not?

For the Air Corps they will get back to us over the weekend (Most likely Saturday) as the interviews are within the next 2 weeks. Not sure if that applies to the Army line etc.

BadBannana

They told us the next few days army. Interviews between 4th July and 4th August

nuhcy

Howya lads. Have my fitness test etc tomorrow for the air corps in Casement. Anyone who did it recently have any hints or tips?

leatherjacket

nuhcy wrote: »

Did anyone fail the fitness test?
Whats the interview like? Is it laidback or will they be grilling us?
Is the maths test the same type as the online psychometric test? Will we be repeating all four of them?

Cheers for the tips!

Yeah a few did. If you fail they just send you straight home.

You do the online psychometric test again on their computers but it's a bit shorter. They're just checking it was you that did the one at home. Same tests but there was no verbal reasoning. You can use a calculator for that one. Afterwards they give you another maths test but there's no calculator and it's supervised. Pen, paper & brains is all you'll have. 24 questions if I remember correctly and it's timed. Similar questions to the psychometric test but you'll get phrased questions thrown in that you have to read.

There's no interview on the assessment day, that's not till next week or the week after (provided you get called back, we won't know till the end of this week.)

Generally everyone you will meet tomorrow is very nice and up for some craic. Except for the group assessment room of course.

BadBannana

There was ~110 numbers the day I did it and by the time we were having dinner there was ~65

A few got kicked out for having no documents or being too tall, small, or heavy (they failed caliper testing)

Another handful were gone on pushups then another few on situps.

The rest were gone on the run. They made some of the lads run to the spot because the bus was full but by the looks of it they all got on grand. Some of them were already PDF.

BadBannana

Emails were sent today, one of my friends didn't get through. I was caught off guard by that one

leatherjacket

BadBannana wrote: »

Emails were sent today, one of my friends didn't get through. I'm ****ting bricks

Wow, didn't expect to hear anything until Saturday. Good luck lads.

BadBannana

leatherjacket wrote: »

Wow, didn't expect to hear anything until Saturday. Good luck lads.

That's what surprised me too....

BadBannana

I just got an email about a personality assessment, anyone else?

leatherjacket

BadBannana wrote: »

I just got an email about a personality assessment, anyone else?

You must be through in that case. Fair play. I'm still waiting but our group was told we would hear on Saturday.

BadBannana

leatherjacket wrote: »

You must be through in that case. Fair play. I'm still waiting but our group was told we would hear on Saturday.

They seem to be working way quicker than in previous years

mallow98

has anyone who went for the army/navy been asked to complete a personality questionare? thanks!

MeganeMan

Actually, do they notify you if you haven't been selected or do they just leave you hanging? I haven't received any emails at all yet so I'm starting to worry that I haven't made the cut.

leatherjacket

MeganeMan wrote: »

Actually, do they notify you if you haven't been selected or do they just leave you hanging? I haven't received any emails at all yet so I'm starting to worry that I haven't made the cut.

They let you know if you didn't make it so I wouldn't worry until you get the email. I got the email yesterday saying I'm onto the interview, and today I got a link to the personality questionnaire. If you had your assessment day Wed/Thurs/Fri they might be another day or two getting back to you.

tommy_tucker

Any air corps lads having trouble logging on to the personality questionnaire, its asking me for a password and i havn't been supplied with one nor do i remember creating one for any previous stage.
Can't get through to Paul McDermott on his phone and haven't got a reply to my email yet, it was suppose to be done by last night and i haven't been able to do it.
Suggestions? am i missing something obvious?

BadBannana

Did anyone else get just the assessment email and not one saying you had passed onto the next stage?

leatherjacket

tommy_tucker wrote: »

Any air corps lads having trouble logging on to the personality questionnaire, its asking me for a password and i havn't been supplied with one nor do i remember creating one for any previous stage.
Can't get through to Paul McDermott on his phone and haven't got a reply to my email yet, it was suppose to be done by last night and i haven't been able to do it.
Suggestions? am i missing something obvious?

I didn't have any trouble myself, but I do remember it asking me to create a new password. Maybe just check the link didn't ask you to create a password, as I remember thinking the same thing at first.

tommy_tucker

Nah

tommy_tucker

leatherjacket wrote: »

tommy_tucker wrote: »

Any air corps lads having trouble logging on to the personality questionnaire, its asking me for a password and i havn't been supplied with one nor do i remember creating one for any previous stage.
Can't get through to Paul McDermott on his phone and haven't got a reply to my email yet, it was suppose to be done by last night and i haven't been able to do it.
Suggestions? am i missing something obvious?

I didn't have any trouble myself, but I do remember it asking me to create a new password. Maybe just check the link didn't ask you to create a password, as I remember thinking the same thing at first.

-

MeganeMan

leatherjacket wrote: »

They let you know if you didn't make it so I wouldn't worry until you get the email. I got the email yesterday saying I'm onto the interview, and today I got a link to the personality questionnaire. If you had your assessment day Wed/Thurs/Fri they might be another day or two getting back to you.

Fair enough (and well done!). Though the interviewing period for Army starts from tomorrow (or so we were told), so I'm starting to wonder if I ought to contact the recruitment office to see if there wasn't a mistake with my contact details or something like that.