How can I find someone's address?

Saeloinds

First of all, let me just say that yes, it's for ethical reasons. I've a friend who has suicidal tendencies and I wanted to check if she's ok. She has a tendency of disappearing, but recently I can't get a hold of her at all. I know the general area she lives in, but I never actually went to her place or anything.

I'm also not comfortable divulging her name or phone number for privacy reasons (yes, I realize the irony of that).

tracey turnblad

Live register?

Lady is a tramp

Call the local Garda station. Chances are you won't be the only one worried, they'll probably have her details there and will call round.

Saeloinds

How can i use live register to find someone? Haven't had any luck with it

tomwaterford

Saeloinds wrote: »

How can i use live register to find someone? Haven't had any luck with it

Electoral register....would have her last address?

Jet Black

Saeloinds wrote: »

How can i use live register to find someone? Haven't had any luck with it

You can't. If they use Facebook try contacting friends and family with your concern or if you know someone who knows them on Facebook ask them. Failing that you could go up to where they live and knock on doors.

Lady is a tramp

Bear in mind that some psychiatric hospitals don't let you have your mobile phone or laptop etc, which could be why she's uncontactable ... any way of getting in touch with a family member maybe?

Saeloinds

That would be a good idea, but she deactivated Facebook a few months ago. leaving only her messenger. My only common friend with her is a girl who lives in America who's also worried sick.

Lady is a tramp

Is she in Belfast by any chance?

Saeloinds

No, she is in Dublin. I know the general location of her house, but not the actual place. She does not have family, which is what worries us the most.

Lady is a tramp

Was just asking as a family member just posted on Facebook about a girl missing in Belfast.

Again, in your position, I'd be contacting the Gardai. Even if you had her address, what would you do if you were getting no response there?

You might be thinking they won't know her address, but I've been in pretty much her exact position before (friends calling Gardai out of concern for me, but not knowing my address, just the general area) ... they found me very quickly, I don't know how but they have ways and means!

infogiver

You must go to the Gardai.
The live register is the list of people on DSP JS payment and obviously that information is not publicly available but if it's an emergency the Garda will find her most recent address.

Saeloinds

Thanks everyone. I'll give it a try. I wasn't sure if I should call the Garda or not because idk how she would react to that, but I guess it really is the best way. Thanks!

Lady is a tramp

Saeloinds wrote: »

Thanks everyone. I'll give it a try. I wasn't sure if I should call the Garda or not because idk how she would react to that, but I guess it really is the best way. Thanks!

Yeah and I get your concern, because the reality is that the Gardai aren't qualified to make an assessment on her mental health, so they'll bring her to the local psych ward. I wasn't happy when it happened to me, but in hindsight it was totally necessary. She'll thank you for it some day!

biko

Good luck. Hope all turns out well for everyone.

Victor

Saeloinds, while you intent may be well meaning, but realise that your method may not be all that different to that of an abusive partner / family member.

Any exceptional effort to find someone should be via the Garda or medical professionals.

Talk to the Garda. Alternatively, write a note (typed) / email and send it to her GP. If you don't know her GP, send it to the local GP(s), but realise they won't tell you anything.

tracey turnblad wrote: »

Live register?

Do you mean the electoral register?

It's also worth noting that she has a right to privacy too, and if she chooses not to contact anyone then that should be respected.

Obviously if she's ill it would be best to check up on her, but rather than do it personally I'd leave it to the police in case your intrusion isn't welcome.

Persephone kindness

Go to the guards. It's the proper channel to do it through.

I hope she is ok

JDERIC2017

Hello, trying to find an address of family of a tenant who left without paying, have are they live in and surname no first names of parents can't find on live register as have no first names. Any advice please

K.Flyer

JDERIC2017 wrote: »

Hello, trying to find an address of family of a tenant who left without paying, have are they live in and surname no first names of parents can't find on live register as have no first names. Any advice please

PRTB.
Your issue is with the tenant, not their family.

JDERIC2017

I can't contact her and it's there responsibility she is only 17.

phill106

JDERIC2017 wrote: »

I can't contact her and it's there responsibility she is only 17.

can you rent to someone who hasnt reached the aged of majority?

Lady is a tramp

JDERIC2017 wrote: »

I can't contact her and it's there responsibility she is only 17.

No, it's your responsibility (as you took her on as a tenant), unless you have a signed letter from them saying they'd be guarantors. In which case, you'll get their contact details on that letter.

I assume you checked all her references thoroughly before accepting her as a tenant?

Persephone kindness

JDERIC2017 wrote: »

I can't contact her and it's there responsibility she is only 17.

Then you should never have taken her as a tenant unless she had a co signer and the co signer should have given you contact details and they are responsible for the rent . If you didn't get a co signer underage renters are not legally bound to the agreement. The law grants the option to the minor as to rather he/she wants to honor the agreement, or avoid payment responsibility.

Basically if you have no co signer she does not have to pay you. If she had one they are who you would contact. And you would have had their contact.

Persephone kindness

phill106 wrote: »

can you rent to someone who hasnt reached the aged of majority?

You cannot enter into any legally binding agreement with a minor. Only with their co signer. It's the same with a loan.

Where a contract made by a minor involves the acquisition of an interest in property of a permanent nature with continuing obligations attached to it, the minor may, at his option, avoid the contract either before or within a reasonable time after he attains majority.76 Until he avoids the contract, he is bound by the obligations under it.

Victor

Persephone kindness wrote: »

You cannot enter into any legally binding agreement with a minor.

Except for a necessity. Was the rental a necessity?

Vela

Lady is a tramp wrote: »

Call the local Garda station. Chances are you won't be the only one worried, they'll probably have her details there and will call round.

Whoa. I wouldn't be so quick to go sending the guards over to her place. I think this needs more detail, OP. Why exactly are you concerned? Has she been absent from work without calling in? Or is it just that you haven't seen or heard from her personally?

Imagine if the poor girl is a bit stressed and just lying low, when suddenly the cops come knocking. That would cause even more distress.

Persephone kindness

Victor wrote: »

Except for a necessity. Was the rental a necessity?

that is not the legal meaning of that word. Legal necessity would cover going into a shop and buying food or clothes.

Persephone kindness

Vela wrote: »

Whoa. I wouldn't be so quick to go sending the guards over to her place. I think this needs more detail, OP. Why exactly are you concerned? Has she been absent from work without calling in? Or is it just that you haven't seen or heard from her personally?

Imagine if the poor girl is a bit stressed and just lying low, when suddenly the cops come knocking. That would cause even more distress.

He can't do anything. She doesn't have to honor the agreement.

Vela

Persephone kindness wrote: »

He can't do anything. She doesn't have to honor the agreement.

What agreement? Sorry, I'm lost.

I mean that sending guards over to someone's house is something that would cause more distress. I wouldn't do it without significant concern.

ED E

Vela wrote: »

What agreement? Sorry, I'm lost.

I mean that sending guards over to someone's house is something that would cause more distress. I wouldn't do it without significant concern.

There are two topics in this thread:
A. OP, Worried about a friend
B. JDERIC2017 who thread jacked trying to find details about a tenant

Persephone kindness

Vela wrote: »

What agreement? Sorry, I'm lost.

I mean that sending guards over to someone's house is something that would cause more distress. I wouldn't do it without significant concern.

The topic changed.

I am not sure why the other poster didn't simply start another thread though possibly in legal discussion.

Also if it is a necessity ..she is not the one obligated to pay but the contract must be honored. It means the guardian and the landlord must work together to provide the service. And that would mean her moving back....but her guardian is required to provide her the legal necessities...

Basically if a child is abandoned and needs to enter inter an agreement for a necessity of life. The contract with a minor should be honored. And the one to pick up the tab must be the guardian.

I don't that that is applicable in this case. And any court would be suspicious of a landlord offering accommodation to a minor of it was a necessity without reporting it.

I really don't think that case is applicable here. And I would not be telling a stranger about a minor's address or the address of their family.

Vela

Persephone kindness wrote: »

The topic changed.

I am not sure why the other poster didn't simply start another thread though possibly in legal discussion.

Also if it is a necessity ..she is not the one obligated to pay but the contract must be honored. It means the guardian and the landlord must work together to provide the service. And that would mean her moving back....but her guardian is required to provide her the legal necessities...

Basically if a child is abandoned and needs to enter inter an agreement for a necessity of life. The contract with a minor should be honored. And the one to pick up the tab must be the guardian.

I don't that that is applicable in this case. And any court would be suspicious of a landlord offering accommodation to a minor of it was a necessity without reporting it.

I really don't think that case is applicable here. And I would not be telling a stranger about a minor's address or the address of their family.

Ah sorry, I was replying to the original OP! I wasn't referring to this. I'm talking about the person sending guards over to someone's house because they haven't been able to contact them.

Persephone kindness

Vela wrote: »

Ah sorry, I was replying to the original OP! I wasn't referring to this. I'm talking about the person sending guards over to someone's house because they haven't been able to contact them.

I am kinda lost now. I think we should try a Ouija Board! :pac:

Victor

Persephone kindness wrote: »

that is not the legal meaning of that word. Legal necessity would cover going into a shop and buying food or clothes.

Having a roof over one's head could easily be considered a necessity.

Boom_Bap

There are 2 separate discussions in this thread and very confusing.

I'm not even sure which of the recent posts refer to the old discussion or the new one, so it's difficult to split.