Would you stay in a place flying the "Butcher's Apron" ?

Jobs OXO

Seems to be causing some kerfuffle - possible intentional?

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/intimidation-campaign-against-hotelier-for-flying-butchers-apron-union-jack-35729848.html

Would you stay in such a hostelry??

Yes.

magentis

No

suicide_circus

Loads of hotels in Dublin put out flags but I don't think I've ever seen the Butchers Fla....I mean Union Jack. They generally go with the seperate English/Welsh/Scottish flags

osarusan

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest, unless I was in danger from Neanderthals who wanted to do damage to the place.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Absolutely. I have stayed in hotels with all kinds of national flags flying - even some in the UK with the Irish flag displayed.

amcalester

How much is it a night and are the sheets clean?

Don't much care about flags.

Dr Crayfish

Nationalism is for idiots

RayM

Not until they give us back the occupied six.

Wouldn't bother me.

whoopsadoodles

Yes for the mostpart and have done before.

If I was in the north of ireland and it was the only flag flying, then no.

sjb25

Well 800 years etc etc but if the rooms are cheap yes yes I would

greencap

If in ireland it would be a slight negative, wouldnt stop me, but wouldnt encourage me either. May slightly push me towards a competitor.

As for harassing the guy, as per the story, thats just trolling. Too much time on their hands. Like the 'you must wear a poppy fags'.

Yourself isit

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

So you wouldn't stay anywhere with flags? Limiting.

Widdershins

It's not intentional. He seems like a nice enough man and he has flown other flags for guests of other nationalities. When will people let this stuff go..

Obviously this will descend into another us vs them argument

Fratton Fred

This is a lovely country, with lots of lovely people. It is such a shame there is a minority of small minded bigotted twats that somehow manage to get far more oxygen than they deserve.

The Highwayman

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

Social justice and communism are for fools who will end up in the gulag.

No I would not stay in a place in Ireland who choose to fly that abomination of a flag.

The Highwayman

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

Social justice and communism are for fools who will end up in the gulag.

No I would not stay in a place in Ireland who choose to fly that abomination of a flag.

corner of hells

The Highwayman wrote: »

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

Social justice and communism are for fools who will end up in the gulag.

No I would not stay in a place in Ireland who choose to fly that abomination of a flag.

The Highwayman wrote: »

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

Social justice and communism are for fools who will end up in the gulag.

No I would not stay in a place in Ireland who choose to fly that abomination of a flag.

So good you had to post it twice.

Neon_Lights

Apply this logic to when you're abroad, this would mean if there was a union jack outside the hotel you were staying or a union jack on the menu, that you would neither eat or stay in the place.

amcalester

Neon_Lights wrote: »

Apply this logic to when you're abroad, this would mean if there was a union jack outside the hotel you were staying or a union jack on the menu, that you would neither eat or stay in the place.

The only reason I know what to eat when I'm abroad is because of the Union Jack in the corner of the menu.

Agricola

If it was some big chain hotel flying a dozen flags out the front and the Union flag was one? Then yes.

If it was in East Belfast in an area with more red and blue bunting than a royal wedding, probably not.

Yourself isit

He could fly the English, Scottish or Welsh flags.

I personally wouldn't care - I once lived in a country which flew the union jack as its state flag and the people were lovely.

But.. this is just over the border in Donegal. A lot of Catholics flee northern ireland, particularly in July, to flee flegs. Flegs that look exactly like that and that represent a history, and a recent history at that, of a supremacism represented by that flag.

Dr Turk Turkelton

Yourself isit wrote: »

He could fly the English, Scottish or Welsh flags.

I personally wouldn't care - I once lived in a country which flew the union jack as its state flag and the people were lovely.

But.. this is just over the border in Donegal. A lot of Catholics flee northern ireland, particularly in July, to flee flegs. Flegs that look exactly like that and that represent a history, and a recent history at that, of a supremacism represented by that flag.

At last,someone has finally spelled fleg correctly.

wakka12

I knew the thread title would mean the british flag lol

HeidiHeidi

I wish there was a rule on board that you had to quote the relevant bit of articles that you start threads about.

I try to avoid at all costs giving that Indo rag any oxygen by clicking on their links - anyone care to enlighten me as to what was in the article?

amcalester

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I wish there was a rule on board that you had to quote the relevant bit of articles that you start threads about.

I try to avoid at all costs giving that Indo rag any oxygen by clicking on their links - anyone care to enlighten me as to what was in the article?

Hotelier in Donegal flies Union Jack to welcome guests from GB.

Locals go nuts and threaten the hotelier.

mikemac2

Mr Rohan, who was born near Clones in Co Monaghan but has lived in the south for most of his life

Does the journalist know where Monaghan is

...And Justice

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Nationalism is for idiots

Simon coveny? Is that you?

Mint Sauce

Yes, why not. Its just a flag.

HeidiHeidi

amcalester wrote: »

Hotelier in Donegal flies Union Jack to welcome guests from GB.

Locals go nuts and threaten the hotelier.

Which hotel/where?

OldMrBrennan83

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Atoms for Peace

He also has a picture of the nationalist hero [sic](?) King billy on display, this guy sounds like a troll considering the location of the hotel.

Skylinehead

mikemac2 wrote: »

Does the journalist know where Monaghan is

He did say "near" Clones tbf...

5starpool

I'm assuming those saying they wouldn't stay there,and that it is a disgrace have never gone to the UK (well, mainland Britain I guess moreso as they may have been in NI)? I'm assuming that as they are massive hypocrites otherwise.

RayM

I remember getting in trouble for using a permanent marker to blacken out the butcher's apron on my Reeboks as a child. Guaranteed to get your feet stamped on if you didn't.

infogiver

No it was a ridiculous thing to do and I'd have to question the capabilities of the hosts, so I'd be looking for somewhere else to stay.

riffmongous

Weird article, I hate reading about those kinds of 'republicans' who dont have a clue, and what was that about King Billy the nationalist hero?

Nice bit of advertising for him too, they went on and on about what the place has to offer

LordSutch

osarusan wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest, unless I was in danger from Neanderthals who wanted to do damage to the place.

Well said.

And full respect to the owner who won't back down to those redneck neanderthals.

Banjoxed

RayM wrote: »

I remember getting in trouble for using a permanent marker to blacken out the butcher's apron on my Reeboks as a child. Guaranteed to get your feet stamped on if you didn't.

How about giving them a good old fashioned kick in the ballox if they did stamp on your feet?

corner of hells

LordSutch wrote: »

osarusan wrote: »

Wouldn't bother me in the slightest, unless I was in danger from Neanderthals who wanted to do damage to the place.

Well said.

And full respect to the owner who won't back down to those redneck neanderthals.

It's knuckle dragging Neanderthals, let's not far the rednecks with that brush.

Yourself isit

The debate has moved on to high intellectual grounds I see.

markodaly

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

He also has a picture of the nationalist hero [sic](?) King billy on display, this guy sounds like a troll considering the location of the hotel.

The guy who served in the Irish army for over 20 years, who also has a picture hanging of the founders of Irish Nationalism, 85% of them protestant?

Yea, a troll alright.

It seems the alt-right keyboard warrior brigade in Ireland are very much your typical vacuous RA head, shinner type. Bless them.

LordSutch

Are Union flags generally flown outside hotels/establishments in the ROI?

You always see the European flag, the US flag alongside the Tricolour, but is the Union flag generally flown here on Hotels etc?

Certainly when you go across to Wales & England the Irish Tricolour is in abundance, flying here there & everywhere alongside other flags outside hotels, pubs etc.

But do we still have an issue with the Union Flag here?

Yourself isit

markodaly wrote: »

The guy who served in the Irish army for over 20 years, who also has a picture hanging of the founders of Irish Nationalism, 85% of them protestant?

Yea, a troll alright.

It seems the alt-right keyboard warrior brigade in Ireland are very much your typical vacuous RA head, shinner type. Bless them.

Surely if there were alt right white nationalists in ireland they would fetishize the union jack? The flag of white Anglo colonialism? The height of white supremacism.

Bless em.

OldMrBrennan83

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Jobs OXO

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

I wish there was a rule on board that you had to quote the relevant bit of articles that you start threads about.

I try to avoid at all costs giving that Indo rag any oxygen by clicking on their links - anyone care to enlighten me as to what was in the article?

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/intimidation-campaign-against-hotelier-for-flying-butchers-apron-union-jack-35729848.html

colm_mcm

So is it a Union Jack amongst other flags, or on its own. I wouldn't care either way tbh, but I'd imagine that would be a factor for some.

Yourself isit

LordSutch wrote: »

Are Union flags generally flown outside hotels/establishments in the ROI?

You always see the European flag, the US flag alongside the Tricolour, but is the Union flag generally flown here on Hotels etc?

Certainly when you go across to Wales & England the Irish Tricolour is in abundance, flying here there & everywhere alongside other flags outside hotels, pubs etc.

But do we still have an issue with the Union Flag here?

Generally it isn't flown. Irish flag, US flag and EU flag (which has replaced individual European flags). Of course many hotels don't bother with flags at all. Quite right.

Banjoxed

I've got a great idea. Get a ninety foot high pole, place in the centre of a town and run the biggest possible Union Jack up it and have access to the halyard about thirty foot from the ground.

Grease the pole from say six feet to thirty feet.


Train a time lapse camera on it over a weekend from Friday night to Sunday morning and watch the fun. The resultant film would be worth releasing.

HeidiHeidi

Jobs OXO wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/intimidation-campaign-against-hotelier-for-flying-butchers-apron-union-jack-35729848.html

Yeah, that wasn't quite what I meant!

But maybe you knew that already....

greencap

Banjoxed wrote: »

I've got a great idea. Get a ninety foot high pole, place in the centre of a town and run the biggest possible Union Jack up it and have access to the halyard about thirty foot from the ground.

Grease the pole from say six feet to thirty feet.


Train a time lapse camera on it over a weekend from Friday night to Sunday morning and watch the fun. The resultant film would be worth releasing.

Our planning laws protect us against such trickery.