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  • 18-05-2017 7:11pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭


    Hey guys, wondering if anyone has ever been upgrade from pleb class :) ,premium economy is the farthest i'll be able to go ever I reckon.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    It happens but on very rare occasions.
    If economy is oversold, it may happen, that's it really!
    Many airlines allow it as a perk of staff travel but if you're not on staff travel then there very little chance


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,482 ✭✭✭harr


    We got upgraded going on honeymoon over 15 years ago now...not sure if it was business or first class, we just chanced our arm and asked. I can't even remember what airline it was ...All I can remember it was huge seats and fancy grub and drinks...


  • Registered Users Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Dingle_berry


    Have gotten business on staff travel. Definitely better for long haul. Not much difference comfort wise short haul.
    I think nowadays they upgrade if economy is oversold and business is under sold. But they select people based on their value to the airline - how much money you or your company spends with them, information gathered through the loyalty schemes.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 1,809 ✭✭✭conor_ie


    I have a couple of times but I paid for it.. never lucky enough to get it on my own!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,106 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    Twice, business class both times.

    Once from Sydney to Auckland at 7am on a Monday morning after a weekend drinking and no sleep.

    How that happened I still cannot figure out.

    Once from London to Delhi, that was a very nice experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    Back in the 90's I knew someone who knew someone who worked for Aer Lingus at JFK so I got upgraded quite a bit. It was great, at least back then for the JFK-SNN flights. Real china cups for the tea and real glass for the champers, real knives and forks, none of that plastic crap. But then my contact was transferred and that was the end of that. Had the Gold Circle membership at the time, got to meet some Celebs in the old Gold Circle lounge at JFK, Brendan Grace, Brenda Fricker, Michael D and some other pols.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭heldel00


    Coming home from New York in 2008. Could hear my name being called out on the tannoy system, was $hitting it that they had sold my seat and I was gonna be left behind. It was my birthday so I guess that was how I was picked.

    I'll never forget the air hostess asking me, after a fillet steak dinner with champagne, how would I take my ice-cream??? "Eh sure in a bowl I suppose?" says I! "No hun would you like chopped nuts, chocolate sauce, sprinkles ....?" says she! Rookie mistake! (And FYI I told her I would have everything going on my ice-cream!)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    I got it once coming back from ICN-LHR. The checkin lady was a British import and hilariously apologetic - "I'm very sorry sir, but we have a bit of a problem with the aircraft. Would you mind awfully if we moved you up to Club World free of charge?"

    My reply was "If you must..."

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,521 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Best ever upgrade we got was a long time ago on a Laker Mk 2 flight to and from Orlando. We were supposed to travel on a DC10-30, but for reasons that were never explained, the flight out was on a DC10-10, which meant a tech stop for fuel, and that was after a 3 hour delay at Gatwick due to a baggage screw up, a bag was double tagged, which meant that the US security bag count and the handling bag count was wrong, so we ended up having to do a complete bag identify on the ramp, and there was then another delay due to a tech snag after pushback, so we were about 7 hours late arriving into Orlando.

    When we got to checkin on the way back, I asked the desk operative, "please, tell me it's the 10-30 going home", and she asked why, and I said we'd had a bad trip over 2 weeks earlier, she said "I heard about that flight, it wasn't great". She checked us in, and we didn't pay much attention at the time, she just said "it's the 10-30, so you will have a better flight back". On boarding, we were very pleasantly surprised to find that the aircraft (a charter flight) had a full 3 cabin configuration, and the check in staff had allocated us to the first class cabin, which also got a full first class service, so we did indeed have a VERY pleasant flight back to Gatwick, the service included little things like a leather pouch with toiletries and the like, the seats were leather recliners, and seat back IFE, at a time when that was very much the exception rather than standard, and the food served was very much not the same menu or quality compared to the economy cabin. It made for a nice end to the holiday.

    Another good trip was a round trip from Gatwick to Windhoek with Air Namibia, we had originally booked economy, but discovered that they had a special offer that gave an upgrade to the front cabin for a very low price of only an additional ?300 for the round trip, which for a 12 hour night flight was a very good offer. I think it was a way to get additional numbers, in that if they got an upgrade, they could then sell the economy seat again, and both flights on an A340, overnight (2100 departures) were excellent, both in terms of the meals served and the general service, being night flights, we spent quite a while asleep, and as they were North/South flights, there wasn't a time zone difference, which meant no jet lag in the same way. That was an amazing holiday, and the flights were a nice touch that made the time so much better.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Place a babywipe on your face before takeoff, change your first name to 'Mister' or 'Miss' by deed poll, , and you'll fell like you're flying business class every flight


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,942 ✭✭✭Danbo!


    I've flown non rev on countless flights and airlines all over the place, therefore always on the upgrade list, but behind any loyalty members who are eligible for it first.

    Only once did I get it. Brand new 787, MAD-SCL. For a 14 hour flight, it wasn't the worst time to get an upgrade.

    On another occasion, I was flying SIN-LHR on Singapore Airlines on a staff ticket. It was 36 degrees in Singapore, so I was in shorts. The lady at check in asked if I had trousers I could change into for the flight. Got excited and said "sure thing, did I get the upgrade?" She replied "no, staff may not travel in shorts, sir". Given I'm a pasty Irish lad, I mentioned I'm not actually staff and nobody would know. "Rules are rules I'm afraid, sir".


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,584 CMod ✭✭✭✭Steve


    I used to fly a lot for work and always flew Delta or a partner. Never made platinum but was gold for many years and once you're there the free upgrades seem to roll in. When they didn't I was getting enough miles to upgrade the return trip on every second transat.

    It's worth sticking with one airline if you travel a lot.

    Edit, And once, I was returning from LHR on Shamrock with overweight bags and it was cheaper to upgrade to business than pay the excess, was only £50 I think .. no real difference on board but you get a free newspaper..


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Aer Lingus can be good for an upgrade, 4 of us en route to SEA via JFK

    2 with status, 2 without. All 4 of us seated in the centre 4 seats on A330.

    Tactically sit near lounge reception, well actually to sit next to Enda Kenny (who is doing his best fist pump routine), the lovely lady at the lounge walks over to us ask for our boarding cards and everyone thinks game on.

    4 new boarding cards, two of us with status get upgrade, then the classic deadpan response, I've upgraded you colleagues but had to reseat you two so you are still next to each other. By the way Enda is going to Japan so enjoy JFK...

    Consistently get the 'discount business' offering from Aer Lingus, empty seat next to me, staff only too happy to block the seat if the plane is not full, can be the only empty economy seat on a DUB-SFO which is fun, even got the entire row 2 to myself going to Madrid one morning (the plane isn't full...)


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    harr wrote: »
    We got upgraded going on honeymoon over 15 years ago now...not sure if it was business or first class, we just chanced our arm and asked. I can't even remember what airline it was ...All I can remember it was huge seats and fancy grub and drinks...
    Upgrades to first class are vanishingly rare. The people who pay to fly first class don't expect to be sharing it with the likes of you and me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    During peak months it happens to me on aer Lingus to the US probably 50% of the trips I make out of Dublin. Gold circle elite status until the change to aer club. It also used to happen a bit when I was prestige but not gold.

    For some reason it doesn't tend to happen on the return legs.

    Usual routine is go to check in and something on the screen prompts the agent to pick up a phone. I do a little inside scream when I see her pick up the upgrade phone as I call it. But then it's a real downer when she just hands you your boarding card. You need to be properly dressed. Not a suit but they will not upgrade you if wearing runners or look scruffy.

    Other times in the lounge they might ask to hold on to your economy boarding card and then will page you a while later to hand you a shiny new business one.

    Finally when you think all hope is lost and you're questioning why you do this crappy job that has you flying 7 hours on a Sunday in July with a load of annoying tourists while your family is at a bbq.....you walk to the gate, hand over your boarding card. She scans it........it beeps.......but it's a different tone of beep.........the scanner turns red, not green.........."oh there's a problem with your seat".........she rips your boarding card in two!!!!

    Get the F*** in!!!

    "Champagne or orange juice sir?"

    The day before I fly I'll try to do a dummy booking and if it's sold out I know I'm in with a great shot. Or if there's disruption in the transatlantic schedules I'll benefit from the fallout.

    Only downside is for every upgrade it gets harder to go down the back next time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,197 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Twice as apologies, two airlines on the same holiday. Both only pleb to premium economy.

    United for an insane reroute EWR-PDX via IAH and KLM on the return after being pushed from booked to standby and getting the last seat just before departure. That one included an exit row on the EI leg at the end but it was upgauged to a 321 and my to a number wasn't the exit anymore


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    I used to get a few on Virgin around 2000-2002, flying premium econ for work to Barbados, assume they'd oversell economy holidays and push some to prem and us to upper class. More recently I've had one on Etihad from AUH-KUL, I was silver on their scheme at the time, guess there were no gold or platinum on the flight (which is hard to believe). I flew DUB-KUL via AUH a lot and only happened once when I was silver, never when I reached gold! Had one random one on BA on a LHR to Toronto leg - no idea why I got that as I had no status with them. Got a few internal US flights with Delta (but that's nothing special) and one back from JFK to DUB, when I was silver or gold with them at the time. A couple of years ago you'd get almost every other internal flight upgraded as a gold member, but I've noticed a massive growth in gold+ flyers on Delta. On a recent couple of trips, especially on the US internal flights, over half the flight stood up at the gold boarding announcement so upgrades have become non existent.

    A couple of years ago I got to the middle tier of the Aerlingus Gold Circle but never saw a sniff of an upgrade with them!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    BigMoose wrote: »
    I I was silver on their scheme at the time, guess there were no gold or platinum on the flight (which is hard to believe).

    Most of the top tiers are probably booked in business anyway and they may have upgrade 10 people for all you know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,351 ✭✭✭Cloudio9


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Upgrades to first class are vanishingly rare. The people who pay to fly first class don't expect to be sharing it with the likes of you and me.

    The vast majority are not paying for it themselves. It's either their employer is paying for it or if tourists they're cashing in air miles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,258 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Where there's a first class distinct from business class, tourists rarely use it, and few employers are willing to pay for it. It costs about twice as much as full-fare business class. The people who fly first class are, basically, very rich or very famous and a big attraction for them is privacy. Hence, no upgrades for the plebs.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,543 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Got upgraded to business on an Aer Lingus flight to and from JFK years ago. My sister was the marketing manager of a company who did a lot of advertising in Cara magazine so her contact there put her on the upgrade list whenever she was going anywhere. She was devastated when he left!

    There were three of us travelling that trip and we all got upgraded. On the way back we checked in at the gold circle desk and the agent was like "I'm not sure we can do anything for you this time but you can use the business class lounge anyway. While we were in there my sister got paged to go to the desk and came back with three lovely business class boarding cards.

    It's a great experience but as others have said, it makes it very hard to go back to steerage afterwards!


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,305 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    harr wrote: »
    We got upgraded going on honeymoon over 15 years ago now...not sure if it was business or first class, we just chanced our arm and asked. I can't even remember what airline it was ...All I can remember it was huge seats and fancy grub and drinks...

    We had numerous flights on our honeymoon - tried each and every time - knocked back on all occasions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,018 ✭✭✭knipex


    2 or 3 times a year or a two to 3 year period... always to business class.

    BUT

    I was at that point a gold club doing 100K plus miles a year.. (did 200K first year).

    Generally if you are traveling alone, have a gold club or platinum or whatever is the top loyalty mile card with your airline (or airline equivalent) , and travel business heavy routes you will get bumped a couple of times a year..

    Other than that... increasingly rare...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Got upgraded to business class one Christmas when heading out to Indonesia but it turned out to be a curse in disguise.

    Flight from Dublin to Amsterdam was delayed so missed my connecting flight to Kuala Lumpur. Was offered Business class with KLM to Dubai and then onwards to KL in economy with Yemen airways or just the same Malaysian airways flight the next day. Of course I jumped at the chance of the upgrade, at least for some part of the journey!

    The business class leg had Frank Rijkaard and Ruud Gullit as travelling companions as I sipped champagne and browsed the movie selection. The Yemen airways leg had a bad hangover, an Adam Sandler film and a strange man sitting in my seat when I came back from the toilets...never again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    got upgraded with Emirates last time i flew with them, was just walking through the gate and my boarding pass didnt scan as it had been deactivated and they told me the reason was id been upgraded.

    i didnt ask why but i assumed there was 1 seat left in business class and they didnt want it empty. id flown alot with them in 2016 so i guess i was next in line in terms of airmiles for the upgrade.

    it was the last leg home of a 30 hour trip so it was well appreciated and have to say, you feel like Royalty in there - endless supply of champagne and anything you wanted plus the extra peace and space to sleep if you needed it.

    the thing is though, it would have cost me about €1000 to get the upgrade and its not something id pay for out of my own pocket!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,172 ✭✭✭plodder


    Useful tip I heard, is to wear business attire and politely ask about the possibility when checking in. They are very unlikely to upgrade anyone that looks scruffy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,574 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    Where there's a first class distinct from business class, tourists rarely use it, and few employers are willing to pay for it. It costs about twice as much as full-fare business class. The people who fly first class are, basically, very rich or very famous and a big attraction for them is privacy. Hence, no upgrades for the plebs.

    Well I've been upgraded from Business to First on Long haul, probably because there weren't many people there and they wished to move someone into Business from the lower orders (and I fit in among the famous :pac:)

    First has somewhat lost its market, very rich and very famous people do not fly on these scheduled aircraft at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Its happened a few times for me in the past traveling with my parents on a staff ticket. One was with BA to HKG (Kai Tak), CO from DUB-EWR-MCO and a couple of times also across the pond with EI (one was a jumpseat, which to me is better than any upgrade).

    Funny thing about upgrades is, despite popular belief, you are more likely to be upgraded if you have never flown Business/First with an airline before than if you have previously. The thinking behind this is that people who have previously paid for the experience, will likely pay again.

    If you have to upgrade because of an oversold economy cabin, it makes more sense to give it to someone who has never flown there before, as it will increases the chance of them paying the higher fare in future. Airlines already know their loyal customers with status will pay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,150 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    EI IT isn't exactly modern, so it really is down to status and the lounge staff recognising you from you regular visits (hence Dublin is always a better starting point). The more awkward and complex the itinerary the better.

    BA has a process where it is tracking passengers who don't even have a frequent flyer number and even those that do are ranked even within the program levels. They do certainly play a game of profiling for upgrade. Also the more you paid the better, if you are on bottom A/Z fare bucket you ain't getting upgraded, on Y/B/M odds much better.

    In the US the whole system is so automated its insane on domestic routes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    plodder wrote: »
    Useful tip I heard, is to wear business attire and politely ask about the possibility when checking in. They are very unlikely to upgrade anyone that looks scruffy.

    I was also told this years ago by a family member who worked for BA. Back around 1999 I oddly had a business class ticket for a work flight (no idea how/why they booked that!) and turned up in jeans etc and the BA dude looked at me snootily and said "someone thinks highly of you!"... However my more recent BA upgrade going to Toronto I was traveling in jeans and a hoody and had no BA status. Guess they've realised most people dressed smart are on flights paid for by companies who will either pay business or not and no experience will change that. Where as scruffy looking folk might have money...


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