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Girl videos herself microwaving guinea pig

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    As the title states a girl in Brazil egged on by her friends videoed herself microwaving her guinea pig. The guinea pig was taken to the vets & its ok.
    But what I want to know is....is it wrong to think I would like to be the one to punish her & show her the error of her ways??

    http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/11/teenager-posts-video-of-herself-putting-guinea-pig-in-a-microwave-6630001/#mv-a

    Ehh..I think we should let it go. A slap on the wrist IMO. So long as it's not a recurring theme, she should be just given a warning. Father either overreacted by punishing her or just said that to appear not to condone it in the public's eyes. I believe it's the latter.


  • Posts: 21,679 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Ehh..I think we should let it go. A slap on the wrist IMO. So long as it's not a recurring theme, she should be just given a warning. Father either overreacted by punishing her or just said that to appear not to condone it in the public's eyes. I believe it's the latter.

    A 16 yr old thought it would be a good idea to microwave a little animal? That would be very concerning to me and would warrant more than a slap on the wrist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    Sixteen year olds aren't known for their good judgement, and, as much as I like animals, it's not like she put a baby (admittedly a very small baby in there).

    The outrage junkies will be hellbent on ruining her life and making her out to be worse than a fox-hunting, fisherman with a racoon hat, but she's just a silly girl who did a silly thing.

    Anyway, I bet the guinea pig thought it was well cosy in there and was mildly disappointed when it was taken out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    I tried that before...the guinea pigs survived by eating all the spilled porridge, curry sauce, beans, soup that was burned onto the walls of the microwave!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Sixteen year olds aren't known for their good judgement, and, as much as I like animals, it's not like she put a baby (admittedly a very small baby in there).

    The outrage junkies will be hellbent on ruining her life and making her out to be worse than a fox-hunting, fisherman with a racoon hat, but she's just a silly girl who did a silly thing.

    Anyway, I bet the guinea pig thought it was well cosy in there and was mildly disappointed when it was taken out.

    This seems more than just 'bad judgment'. At 16, my bad judgment involved a step hair cut and yellow doc martins.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,499 ✭✭✭✭Caoimhgh1n


    There aren't words to describe some people, the utmost of stupidity and insanity. Why would you put a living creature into a bloody microwave!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Good job this wasn't posted in the animals/ pets forum.:)

    More than a slap on the wrist is required.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A six year old warrants a small punishment, a sixteen year old should at least get a police caution.

    She shouldn't be allowed pets for life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Should have added 'no animals were harmed in the making of the film....oops' at the end for the craic. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,644 ✭✭✭cml387


    A good spanking is what she needs. Spanking.

    (No I do not condone anminal cruelty and may the lord help us if this gets into the pets forum.)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,062 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    for a start stop making excuses for animal abuse. She's old enough to learn that there will be consequences for this.

    There's something fundamentally wrong with people who are intentionally cruel to animals and sixteen is well age enough to know better.

    She's not just a silly girl, she's an idiot with a cruel streak in her and should be cautioned by the police and banned from keeping pets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    The microwave doesn't sound much good, thankfully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    .... it's wrong if you have a boner thinking about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,544 ✭✭✭Samaris


    Sixteen is entirely old enough to know better. I wouldn't expect anyone over the age of maybe eight or nine to think it was a good idea, and these days most children that age know better too.


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    Samaris wrote: »
    Sixteen is entirely old enough to know better. I wouldn't expect anyone over the age of maybe eight or nine to think it was a good idea, and these days most children that age know better too.

    My 4 year old wouldn't even consider it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    cml387 wrote: »
    A good spanking is what she needs. Spanking.

    (No I do not condone animal cruelty and may the lord help us if this gets into the pets forum.)

    Overreaction much? You have to remember that the guinea pig is an animal not in any way as sentient as a human being (and I know that humans are animals too)...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    What a horrible thing to do how could anyone (hang on, just have a piece of meat between my teeth... ah there, got it) put an innocent animal in a microwave like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭dadad231


    It's a bit mad alright, so long as it's not a recurring theme as mentioned already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Overreaction much? You have to remember that the guinea pig is an animal not in any way as sentient as a human being (and I know that humans are animals too)...

    Wow, people like you still exist? These animals feel pain the exact same way you or I do. I might understand saying that about an insect, but it's amazing you would claim a mammal like a guinea pig isn't sentient, would you claim the same for dogs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    How is this much different to allowing your dogs chase down a fox and tear it apart? Its lauded by many communities. Im very much against this and what the girl did but why does she deserve to have her life ruined when millions of people all over the world subject animals to similar or worse crueltly daily


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Yet people have no problem killing rats and mice, or destroying spider cities and all their art works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭annascott


    She needs psychiatric help and ought to be locked away until she is no longer a threat to others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,616 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Overreaction much? You have to remember that the guinea pig is an animal not in any way as sentient as a human being (and I know that humans are animals too)...

    At this point I wonder how many animals you've microwaved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I don't know that this is anything more than someone pandering to the mob in her case. When I was that age you'd be dared into doing all kinds of things you wouldn't normally do. People can do horrible things at that age and it doesn't necessarily make them a bad person, thats the age for trying things and making mistakes.

    This is a nonstory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Brazil hasn't been invaded since the Iberians have been there.
    Guinea-Bissau are drawing up plans, together with their ex husband Guinea there are plans afoot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭Paddy Cow


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't know that this is anything more than someone pandering to the mob in her case. When I was that age you'd be dared into doing all kinds of things you wouldn't normally do. People can do horrible things at that age and it doesn't necessarily make them a bad person, thats the age for trying things and making mistakes.

    This is a nonstory.
    When I was 16, if someone seriously wanted to put any of my pets in the microwave, they would have been shown the door. It's not a mistake, it was an act of cruelty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭Lau2976


    I'm kind of amazed at the attitude to teenagers doing ****ed up things. Like "oh it's the time to make mistakes"

    A mistake is having a bit too much to drink and getting sick in a plant pot. It's not trying to burn a living creature to death or bullying someone to suicide.

    Being purposefully cruel isn't a "mistake" it's a trait, one that if they're allowed away with at that age, they'll always have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    It's pleasantly surprising how far this thread has developef without someone pointing out that torturing or killing animals is a classic predictor in childtren going on to be serial killers/ psychopats


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 157 ✭✭biscuithead


    I wonder if this girl wasn't as beautiful as she is would the responses be a lot more vitriolic.

    I find it hard that the vets say the animal is fine. Surely it now has some form of brain damage. After all, a serious dose of radiation was passed through the creature's organs.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    is it wrong to think I would like to be the one to punish her & show her the error of her ways??

    No. I, for example, would kick her in the face without scruples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭Help!!!!


    bluewizard wrote: »
    No. I, for example, would kick her in the face without scruples.

    I was thinking more along the lines of a spanking ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Ehh..I think we should let it go. A slap on the wrist IMO. So long as it's not a recurring theme, she should be just given a warning. Father either overreacted by punishing her or just said that to appear not to condone it in the public's eyes. I believe it's the latter.
    I do not think it is as simple as that.
    What happens if this hamster bites someone? And in one years time some guy down on his luck tries to hold up a local store for $100. At this stage hamsterman has fully develeoped his powers and comes burrowing up through the floor of the store to save the cashier, causing an untold amount of damage and destruction throughout the city.
    The store mugger then falls into the hole and into a pool of chemical waste that has seeped through the cracks of the cities chemical plant into hamstermans tunnel. This in turn will lead the mugger to gain enhanced powers and a grudge towards society.
    I believe she may have started a whole chain of events that the world is not yet ready for. Her father punishing her will have made no difference to the future, and he knows it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    I was thinking more along the lines of a spanking ;)

    Wonder if you're genuinely serious or just kidding.

    Are you male or female?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭jeanjolie


    bluewizard wrote: »
    No. I, for example, would kick her in the face without scruples.

    Are you male or female?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Are Am Eye wrote: »
    It's pleasantly surprising how far this thread has developef without someone pointing out that torturing or killing animals is a classic predictor in childtren going on to be serial killers/ psychopats

    I'm don't see why. It's a valid point that is important to know, I bet at least one person here didn't know it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Are you male or female?
    Why does it matter? A sick, cruel bastard who puts an animal into a microwave deserves his/her teeth kicked out (at least), period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    What a horrible thing to do how could anyone (hang on, just have a piece of meat between my teeth... ah there, got it) put an innocent animal in a microwave like that.

    Yeah so if we eat meat we should be totally okay with people exploiting, torturing and killing animals for Facebook likes:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,616 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    jeanjolie wrote: »
    Are you male or female?

    Regardless of gender they dont put animals in microwaves. This isn't a gender thing darling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Regardless of gender they dont put animals in microwaves. This isn't a gender thing darling.
    Traditionally guinea pigs are roasted or BBqed over an open flame. They're supposed to be lovely, they're basically just food where they're originally from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    ScumLord wrote: »
    Traditionally guinea pigs are roasted or BBqed over an open flame. They're supposed to be lovely, they're basically just food where they're originally from.
    The animals are already dead when they roast them. Nobody sane puts an animal to a microwave to torture it and gain FB likes from same-level morons. Get a grip, moddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    Someone give Freddy Starr.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bluewizard wrote: »
    The animals are are already dead when they roast them. Nobody sane puts an animal to a microwave to torture it and gain FB likes from same-level morons. Get a grip, moddy.
    I don't think sanity has anything to do with it. I've seen and heard of plenty of saine people that did horrible things to animals when they were young. Teenagers can get into some nasty situations just following the crowd. This could be one of those things she looks back on with shame for the rest of her life, we don't know.

    It's also not that unusual when you think about it. Most animals don't bat an eyelid at hurting other animals of a different species. Us thinking it's fundamentally wrong is a pretty new thing, for the longest time we only saw them as food and resources, the default state of humans would be to not care for animal welfare. What we have now is a learned behaviour that we've developed and enshrined pretty recently. That some people can ignore that learned behaviour, especially young people that haven't been totally socialised, and use another animal to gain attention isn't really all that unusual.

    Civilised behaviour isn't in us, it's learned, it can take a long time, sometimes people don't get it straight away, it's not the end of the world.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Help!!!! wrote: »
    I was thinking more along the lines of a spanking ;)


    Am I the only one finding it a bit weird that you're fantasizing about riding a 16 year old girl on a thread about animal cruelty?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 62 ✭✭bluewizard


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't think sanity has anything to do with it. I've seen and heard of plenty of saine people that did horrible things to animals when they were young.
    Saine maybe, sane - not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Dick Dastardly


    I was thinking more along the lines of a spanking ;)[/quote]

    Similar interest in spanking Gordon Ramsey when he boils a live lobster?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    bluewizard wrote: »
    Saine maybe, sane - not.
    So you're able to come to such a medical conclusion based on the third hand account of someone who's job it is to sensationalise stories for profit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't think sanity has anything to do with it. I've seen and heard of plenty of saine people that did horrible things to animals when they were young. Teenagers can get into some nasty situations just following the crowd. This could be one of those things she looks back on with shame for the rest of her life, we don't know.

    It's also not that unusual when you think about it. Most animals don't bat an eyelid at hurting other animals of a different species. Us thinking it's fundamentally wrong is a pretty new thing, for the longest time we only saw them as food and resources, the default state of humans would be to not care for animal welfare. What we have now is a learned behaviour that we've developed and enshrined pretty recently. That some people can ignore that learned behaviour, especially young people that haven't been totally socialised, and use another animal to gain attention isn't really all that unusual.

    Civilised behaviour isn't in us, it's learned, it can take a long time, sometimes people don't get it straight away, it's not the end of the world.

    I largely agree but as it is a learned behaviour as you assert then it must be taught. In this instance an effective and in my view required method of educating this girl and others would be to hand down a measured but not insignificant punishment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,616 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I don't think sanity has anything to do with it. I've seen and heard of plenty of saine people that did horrible things to animals when they were young. Teenagers can get into some nasty situations just following the crowd. This could be one of those things she looks back on with shame for the rest of her life, we don't know.

    I suppose you think Jon Venables and Robert Thompson were poor misunderstood children. Age is no excuse she isnt 5 or 6. Shes 16.


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