Are people gone fierce lazy in this country?

Ubbquittious

To get any fella now to pick up a welder or a stilson now you're looking at the bones of €200 for a simple job, nothing too challenging or that requires the thinking cap.

Call-out fees for not fixing things are on the increase as well. A fella charging €300 a day to cut the grass and a few hedges is one I heard of recently, before I got charged 150 myself for a lad to squirt a few cans of stuff into the car (which didn't even work). Another was charging €20 a head to take people on a peaceful stroll and tell them a few tidbits about the history of the place.

Most people have thrown in the towel when it comes to actual making and fixing stuff opting to click "order" on alibaba and re-sell at an obscene margin instead. Are we back in the tiger times yet?

snowflaker

pah! inflation!

biko

Scrapped my car cause it was making a weird noise.





Later learned it was just Crystal Swing on the radio..

The Backwards Man

Hard enough to get a man to spell stillsons* right these days never mind use them


*i only learned this a year or two ago meself

Beyondgone

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Hard enough to get a man to spell stillsons* right these days never mind use them


*i only learned this a year or two ago meself

It's all torque wrenches and certification these days anyway. Lashing it up "Guttentight" with a stillson and hoping for the best has been outlawed by the EU.

The Backwards Man

Beyondgone wrote: »

It's all torque wrenches and certification these days anyway. Lashing it up "Guttentight" with a stillson and hoping for the best has been outlawed by the EU.

Aye, The art of knowing how hard to pull the bar in your hand is dying fast, that's the kind of stuff they should be teaching in school

Atoms for Peace

I can cut the grass, service the car and weld, badly. So I've already saved myself nearly a grand.

Samuel T. Cogley

Ubbquittious wrote: »

To get any fella now to pick up a welder or a stilson now you're looking at the bones of €200 for a simple job, nothing too challenging or that requires the thinking cap.

Call-out fees for not fixing things are on the increase as well. A fella charging €300 a day to cut the grass and a few hedges is one I heard of recently, before I got charged 150 myself for a lad to squirt a few cans of stuff into the car (which didn't even work). Another was charging €20 a head to take people on a peaceful stroll and tell them a few tidbits about the history of the place.

Most people have thrown in the towel when it comes to actual making and fixing stuff opting to click "order" on alibaba and re-sell at an obscene margin instead. Are we back in the tiger times yet?

It sound like you're just an easy mark tbh.

Beyondgone

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Aye, The art of knowing how hard to pull the bar in your hand is dying fast, that's the kind of stuff the should be teaching in school

I'm amazed they still sell shovels.

"Is there no minidigger??"

Samuel T. Cogley

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I can cut the grass, service the car and weld, badly. So I've already saved myself nearly a grand.

Trying to look in an engine bay, control and lawn mower while wearing on of those masks means that at least one of the three jobs is gonna suffer in fairness.

_Brian

It's just that it costs a fortune to run any small business PROPERLY in Ireland.

By the time they pay proper insurance and run vehicles and pay tax it's just all money out the door, charges have to be high to cover these and pay a decent wage.

The Backwards Man

Beyondgone wrote: »

I'm amazed they still sell shovels.

"Is there no minidigger??"

And then they wonder why obesity is such an issue


If there was more digging half a mile of a trench before you fry the steak on the back of the shovel at 8am and less sitting on your arse in a minidigger and prancing about in a dontknockmedown jacket waiting for the tar to harden the world would be a better place

Beyondgone

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And then they wonder why obesity is such an issue


If there was more digging half a mile of a trench before you fry the steak on the back of the shovel at 8am and less sitting on your arse in a minidigger and prancing about in a dontknockmedown jacket waiting for the tar to harden the world would be a better place

"Ahh..me back!:eek:" done that in.

Samuel T. Cogley

The Backwards Man wrote: »

And then they wonder why obesity is such an issue


If there was more digging half a mile of a trench before you fry the steak on the back of the shovel at 8am and less sitting on your arse in a minidigger and prancing about in a dontknockmedown jacket waiting for the tar to harden the world would be a better place

It would indeed, for one thing Elvis would still be alive.

jimmycrackcorm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I can cut the grass, service the car and weld, badly. So I've already saved myself nearly a grand.

I learned to masturbate. Imagine the savings on hookers over the years.

Slanty

_Brian wrote: »

It's just that it costs a fortune to run any small business PROPERLY in Ireland.

By the time they pay proper insurance and run vehicles and pay tax it's just all money out the door, charges have to be high to cover these and pay a decent wage.

Spot on.
Its not how easy or how hard the job is. The overheads are still the same. It might sound expensive but if that price isnt charged then the company will be losing money.

Donald Trump

Ubbquittious wrote: »

To get any fella now to pick up a welder or a stilson now you're looking at the bones of €200 for a simple job, nothing too challenging or that requires the thinking cap.

Call-out fees for not fixing things are on the increase as well. A fella charging €300 a day to cut the grass and a few hedges is one I heard of recently, before I got charged 150 myself for a lad to squirt a few cans of stuff into the car (which didn't even work). Another was charging €20 a head to take people on a peaceful stroll and tell them a few tidbits about the history of the place.

Most people have thrown in the towel when it comes to actual making and fixing stuff opting to click "order" on alibaba and re-sell at an obscene margin instead. Are we back in the tiger times yet?

Person complains about others being lazy because it is becoming expensive to hire people to come over and do simple tasks that they cannot do themselves (or may be apparently too *ahem* lazy to do)

Isn't it ironic, don't ya think

Donald Trump

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I can cut the grass, service the car and weld, badly. So I've already saved myself nearly a grand.

Depends what you're welding there horse.

A bad job might end up costing a lot of money (or even a life!)

Beyondgone

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Depends what you're welding there horse.

A bad job might end up costing a lot of money (or even a life!)

Most I see nowadays are welded to their phones. You'd need a consaw to get them off it.

Ubbquittious

Donald Trump wrote: »

Person complains about others being lazy because it is becoming expensive to hire people to come over and do simple tasks that they cannot do themselves (or may be apparently too *ahem* lazy to do)

Isn't it ironic, don't ya think

It would be rare enough that I'd have to outsource a job to someone else but I'd hate to be dependent on others to do jobs around the house or be able to fix my own car because you get absolutely fleeced. If they reckon you're stuck they'll try and get away with charging even more.

IronSteve

I do very basic DIY, gardening and car safety basics. After that, I'll hire a real man to do the job. I'm just not going to do any reasonably complex job to the same standard as a professional doing it every day.

pablo128

I save myself a fortune by being able to fix anything.

Well apart from roofing.:o http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=103376957

tabby aspreme

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Aye, The art of knowing how hard to pull the bar in your hand is dying fast, that's the kind of stuff they should be teaching in school

Agree totally, and what length of bar to put on the stillson

Lucy8080

I save money at Christmas by returning last year's cards to the sender with the simple inscription " Same to you".

ygolometsipe

I completely agree op, however.

it will be 200 euro to read the rest of my comment. PM for details. No payment, no reply

prinzeugen

Ubbquittious wrote: »

To get any fella now to pick up a welder or a stilson now you're looking at the bones of €200 for a simple job, nothing too challenging or that requires the thinking cap.

Call-out fees for not fixing things are on the increase as well. A fella charging €300 a day to cut the grass and a few hedges is one I heard of recently, before I got charged 150 myself for a lad to squirt a few cans of stuff into the car (which didn't even work). Another was charging €20 a head to take people on a peaceful stroll and tell them a few tidbits about the history of the place.

Most people have thrown in the towel when it comes to actual making and fixing stuff opting to click "order" on alibaba and re-sell at an obscene margin instead. Are we back in the tiger times yet?

That is because we have a generation of thick twats.

If it can't be done on an app or learned from a crap YouTube video then buy a new one.

Most under 30's would struggle to cook a egg never mind a Sunday roast.

Simple tasks are for the xxxx guy to do.

Most of the under 30's would struggle with a screwdriver.

I have fixed and reused stuff for years. Its not being tight but why dump something if all it needs is a clean or a €4 part?

That's why we have hipster food.

Don't need plates
Don't need skill
Don't need brains to make it.

Permabear

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pablo128

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Ah now you don't know until you try.

Seriously, as said above, I'm not ashamed to admit I sometimes have a look on YouTube before tackling something. Its a gift sometimes.

Permabear

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Your Face

Not like back in the day when a real man broke his back for pennies.

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Your Face

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That was the point.

Dubh Geannain

I think lazy is too strong a word. I think a more appropriate one would be ...

Ah feic it, I can't think of one. There's got to be a service that can look up words in the thesaurus for you.

AlmightyCushion

prinzeugen wrote: »

That is because we have a generation of thick twats.

If it can't be done on an app or learned from a crap YouTube video then buy a new one.

Most under 30's would struggle to cook a egg never mind a Sunday roast.

Simple tasks are for the xxxx guy to do.

Most of the under 30's would struggle with a screwdriver.

I have fixed and reused stuff for years. Its not being tight but why dump something if all it needs is a clean or a €4 part?

That's why we have hipster food.

Don't need plates
Don't need skill
Don't need brains to make it.

Don't knock YouTube tutorials. I've fixed plenty of things I wouldn't have been able to on my own thanks to them. Pretty much any phone, tablet and even a lot of laptops nowadays have a relatively complex disassembly process where you more or less need to know what you're doing to take it apart with screwing it up. How are you meant to do that without following some sort of guide? Even if you are fairly confident of how it's disassembled, a guide will reduce the chance of something going wrong.

MilesMorales1

Surely somone paying someone else to mow their garden for them is lazy themselves, not like mowing the grass is that hard.

5rtytry56

Feirce gobshi+tes. Feckin' cliquey dat's all! ;D

BrokenArrows

You cant really complain about these charges.

Trades people dont charge people for every hour of their day unless they are working but they still need to make a living.

If they wanted to make 40k a year they would need to be making €153 per day, every working day and earns nothing on holidays or when sick.
Most people wouldnt be working every day so that brings up the average.

If they managed to do 2 average size jobs in a day they might take in €300.

Subtract the cost of the travel, car maintenance, parts, insurance etc

Where as i am a salary man, who gets paid regardless of whether i accomplish anything at work or not, sick, holidays etc.

Sam Kade

Donald Trump wrote: »

Person complains about others being lazy because it is becoming expensive to hire people to come over and do simple tasks that they cannot do themselves (or may be apparently too *ahem* lazy to do)

Isn't it ironic, don't ya think

What's scary is the lack of thanks you got for this post. First thing that came to my mind reading the op.

Permabear

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AuldDaysul

I have a good story about call out fees and lazy people.

Story call out fee is €150 then €50 per minute thereafter. If ye wish to proceed with the story my secretary will take payment immediately and I'll dispense the story sometime next month.

tomwaterford

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Surly the point of having kids is to get them to do the jobs like mowing the law/painting fences etc?? :pac:

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tomwaterford

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After another 5 years you'l be sorted .....

Though I suspect the parents used get us to paint gates etc....just to be rid of us for a few hours


Or the worse job.....filling water from a tap/churns for the father to bring to fields which had no supply at the time.....seemed an endless chore which had to be done twice a day

AlmightyCushion

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There are plenty of child prodigies throughout history that did all sorts of mad shít at a really young age like teaching themselves to read at 18 months or studying physics in university at 3 years old. How do you know your kids aren't child prodigies at DIY and general housework?

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TrustedApple

I would not even say its been lazy there not even thought at home how to do the stuff ?. MY age group are the worst for this the mid 20s they where never thought anything. I was lucky that my mother thought me how to cook, clean, wash, iron you name it.

AS I used to live with people who could barely wipe there asses never mind turning on a washing machine ha. It was shocking at times what i used to live with i was like do they ever do anything for them self's ?.

One day i had a past housemate come to me and ask me how to turn on a cooker ?. I used to have to do the washing for them as they did not know how to turn on a washing machine or how to change it to the dryer settings.

bottlebrush

I do all my own diy around the house. saves me a fortune. but i have the time to do it and the flair for it and also really enjoy it. not as daunting as people think. then again i dread cooking and prefer eating out. So what i save in one way is spent in another. and i am sure there are people thinking there's your wan too lazy to make her own dinner!

Suckler

TrustedApple wrote: »

I would not even say its been lazy there not even thought at home how to do the stuff ?. MY age group are the worst for this the mid 20s they where never thought anything. I was lucky that my mother thought me how to cook, clean, wash, iron you name it.

AS I used to live with people who could barely wipe there asses never mind turning on a washing machine ha. It was shocking at times what i used to live with i was like do they ever do anything for them self's ?.

One day i had a past housemate come to me and ask me how to turn on a cooker ?. I used to have to do the washing for them as they did not know how to turn on a washing machine or how to change it to the dryer settings.

Seems to me the laziest people were teachers & parents not dealing with the issues of; thought V taught - where/were/we're - quite/quiet/quit - there/their/they're etc.

It's basic stuff.

Boom_Bap

Will someone read this thread to me please?

TrustedApple

Suckler wrote: »

Seems to me the laziest people were teachers & parents not dealing with the issues of; thought V taught - where/were/we're - quite/quiet/quit - there/their/they're etc.

It's basic stuff.

Ahh the token lets make fun of the person with Dyslexia .....

It took 2 posts on this thread to get insulted well done

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