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Need guidance for buying vaping kit
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youdipstick wrote: »I can see that you are in love with an Alien:D:D Shinyitis has affected you early:D:D
I would go ahead & buy the Alien,otherwise it will be on your mind & maybe drive you crazy,I would recommend that you buy a Nautilus Mini tank & spare coils,excellent tank for people coming off the fags & also get some liquid at 18mg nic strength,you'll need that to keep away the cravings for a smoke.
The Alien is an excellent mod for any tank you fit on it & will be great for Advanced Vaping down the road,the Nautilus will work grand on the Alien at 10w to 14w & later on you can get another tank & vape that at a much higher wattage or use the Temp Control on the Alien.
The eLiquid,a little tip,you will never find a juice that is similar to your cigs,we have searched for years,just ain't there,it's the Nicotine you need first & then pick your flavours...and Good Luck
Exactly this. The alien will be fine with any tank but the one included in the kit might not suit you hence why i suggested the zelos kit as it comes with a nautilus 2 but you can just get the alien and nautilus 2 seperate as suggested.
Oh and plenty of deals on ejuice at the min so you should grab some cheap while you can
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OP, have a look on http://www.ecigaspire.co.uk/
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Well, ****. I'm spoilt for choice here haha
@ bartszu
I checked the prices and if I buy the box you mentioned and the tank, it costs almost the same as the alien kit (after the 15% discount).
So I have decided to go with that as for some reason i really like the design of the alien lol and everyone thinks thats a good mod!
P.S thanks jonnycivic
Now, as i'll be getting a tank with the alien kit, I was thinking about buying another one as some people suggested it might not suite me.
So, I need to decide between the Nautilus or the Wolfteeth which bartszu mentioned!
And thanks a lot for your help guys
btw, can i order a couple of 30ml bottles from UK or is there some restriction?
EDIT: I totally forgot about the link at the top haha
I'll order the alien kit from there. Its 35 and using parcel motel it'll still be below 50 for the kit
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Alien is a good choice, very good if you can get it good price go for it.
You will end up having 2 atomizers RTA/RDTA for car, running and busy days and RDA for home or situation when you don’t care that it is just a small cup for juice.
Nothing can beat RDA on taste.
Nothing can beat RDA on vapor production if this is a way you wanna go.
Although some tanks are pretty close: Kylin from Vandy Vape, and Smok Beast series 8 and 12 in particular, but they relatively expensive tanks.
Ahh I forgot to mention, tanks have glass and glass is known for its tendency to shatter
On the other hand RDA you can throw at someone and kill him, then pick it up and vape on it 0 -
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Well, ****. I'm spoilt for choice here haha
@ bartszu
I checked the prices and if I buy the box you mentioned and the tank, it costs almost the same as the alien kit (after the 15% discount).
So I have decided to go with that as for some reason i really like the design of the alien lol and everyone thinks thats a good mod!
P.S thanks jonnycivic
Now, as i'll be getting a tank with the alien kit, I was thinking about buying another one as some people suggested it might not suite me.
So, I need to decide between the Nautilus or the Wolfteeth which bartszu mentioned!
And thanks a lot for your help guys
btw, can i order a couple of 30ml bottles from UK or is there some restriction?
EDIT: I totally forgot about the link at the top haha
I'll order the alien kit from there. Its 35 and using parcel motel it'll still be below 50 for the kit
You will need rechargeable battery's for the Alien along with a charger which don't come with the kit. The Baby Beast tank in the Alien kit is epic so try using that before looking into other tanks. I found myself moving up to a mid range setup pretty quickly once I started vaping and easily wasted the best part of €100 of bits and bobs that ended up sitting on a shelf very quickly.
Like youdipstick mentioned, ignore the RDA/RDTA stuff for the moment as it's way to much of a hassle to be starting out on but I do agree with bartszu that the Alien is great mod to have in your colection and will last you a long time when you start rocking a multi mod setup for home and on the go.0 -
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Yes don’t listen to me I am vaping on giant RDAs, very often using mechanical or hybrid boxes
So I am sort of not a very representative vaper.
I see in shops plenty of people with some small tiny devices, mouth to lung hitters being perfectly happy and catch myself thinking jesssssus what is this tiny crap
One thing is sure, never go back to those nasty, ****ty tasting, full of tar, smelly analogues.0 -
Yes deal is not bad, box with control and rebuildable atomizer.
Huge step from CE5 which is Chinese mass produced piece of plastic.
IMHO buy it for your husbandGuys is this a good deal?
I'm looking to buy my husband a new vape for his birthday. He's currently using an ego style one with CE5 type atomizers. He does MTL vaping. I'm pretty clueless about anything more sophisticated than the basic ego thing he's currently got.0 -
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Yes deal is not bad, box with control and rebuildable atomizer.
Huge step from CE5 which is Chinese mass produced piece of plastic.
IMHO buy it for your husband
Cool, apart from the battery is there anything else I should be getting him? How long does the atomizer typically last? Is it changed at the same time as the coil?0 -
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Yes don’t listen to me I am vaping on giant RDAs, very often using mechanical or hybrid boxes
So I am sort of not a very representative vaper.
I see in shops plenty of people with some small tiny devices, mouth to lung hitters being perfectly happy and catch myself thinking jesssssus what is this tiny crap
One thing is sure, never go back to those nasty, ****ty tasting, full of tar, smelly analogues.
haha who knows, maybe one day i'll be smoking with huge RDA/RDTAs like you 0 -
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youdipstick wrote: »Your lungs & throat are just getting use to the clean vapour & wondering...where the fukc are my toxins:D:D:D:D
18mg or 24mg should do the trick nicely,the baby beast should only be 6mg because it is a direct lung tank & the ohms of the coil has a very low resistance & vaped at high wattages.
The Nautilus should be good from 12w to 20w with 18mg or 24mg...
thanks!
The nautilus says it should be used from 18-23w on the coil. Should I use 12w or that will mess up?
btw, I went to a vape store and they guy gave me 6mg nico. He said that's more than enough so now I'm confused
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The nautilus says it should be used from 18-23w on the coil. Should I use 12w or that will mess up?
btw, I went to a vape store and they guy gave me 6mg nico. He said that's more than enough so now I'm confused
That 12w to 20w I mentioned was only approx because I haven't tried the new coils yet that can go to 23w,my approx covers all Nautilus coils I have used,it's really down to your sweet spot,sometimes the coils needs lower watts & sometimes higher watts,it depends sometimes on what eliquid you use,try at different wattage levels & you will find your sweet spot,those wattages on the coil is only a guidance,I always go by mine,if the vape is wonderful at a certain wattage,I just settle for that.
The 6mg I mentioned was for the baby beast because they have a low resistance coil & normally vaped between 40w & 80w...0 -
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I use my nautilus 2 with an istick 30w.
And he is using his restricted airflow high ohmage Nautilus with device pumping 200 W of power
You Alanman I will make two remarks.
1. You are very heavy smoker, 40 cigs a day, you better get into vaping or quit right now. I don't see much options for you unfortunately.
2. Vaping is a hobby mainly, it is a lot connected to DIY. Way do you think all early boxes were called mods ?? I have build my own mechanical mods, one of them is great and is working perfect till now on, using 4x18650. I am plotting my own coils, my own Claptons. I make my own coils even not using an Ohm meter, just calculating them by that, it works great.
http://bit.ly/2qesxoc
So if you wanna vaping, you better do your homework. Go to YT and learn, learn about, Ohm`s Law, learn about power output, about batteries and boxes. PG/VG ratios. To do that you don't even need to read, all is on YT.
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Wow wow wow. I can't believe all the support!
Thanks a lot guys (and gals, if any :P)
Here goes!!Only what is coming to my mind is just subscribe to MikeYouTube is your friend. This guy does a youtube review of the Nautilus 2 and does mention leaking a little bit, but gives a way to stop it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wux7-VzZJKM
Also make sure you're not over-filling your tank. Did you prime your coil before you started vaping?
I've subbed but I am really busy with exams these days thats why can't really watch all the videos haha. Hopefully, next week!!
Thanks. I have a 1.8 ohm tank which came with the nautilus, I'll try that!youdipstick wrote: »something wrong somewhere,the nautilus should never get hot or even warm,it's the 0.7ohm coil you are using,I did say that I never tried that coil,I've tried the 1.6 & 1.8,never had it hot or warm since they first came out 4 years ago,I can only presume that you have the settings set right on the mod.
There are loads of tobacco flavours out there,I said that you will never match the ciggy you usually smoke,maybe I didn't state it properly for you...
Don't give up yet,you will overcome this problem & laugh later.
Maybe you have a dodgy tank,get yourself some 1.8ohm coils & try them,I 'm not sure that I can help you unless you live in Waterford,where ever you are,your best bet is to take everything into your local vape shop & ask them to check out what's wrong,most vape shops will advise you...
Good Luck with solving your problem...let us know what the shop says.
By the way,the cost of vaping is cheap as chips,the big payout is always the vape kit you get at the start,from here on,it should cost you no more than a tenner a week...
And i'll go to a shop after my exams but things are a bit better since I posted it (big thanks to nobodys_hero!!!
WOW!!nobodys_hero wrote: »I haven't used your tank but since youdipstick is using his with 1.6 and 1.8 coils and it looks like it's very much a mouth to lung tank, the long drags could be your problem, particularly with the heat.
I suspect, that like me when I started, you are taking long drags and chain vaping. I was looking for exactly the same experience as I got smoking. I equated what I was doing with trying to finish a smoke in a hurry. You know, when you end up with a longish solid unburnt core in your smoke because you aren't giving it time to burn fully. Vaping is in my experience so far less forgiving of that for the most part. End of lunch break smoking pace is probably too fast.
When you fire your coil it heats up and vaporises the liquid. It then has to cool down again. Some of that is achieved by airflow as you inhale, but if you keep firing it in succession it just can't keep up with cooling. With your tank the airflow is restricted too. Your .8 ohm coil is made of thicker wire than the 1.8 or 1.6 and is going to be slower cooling. Your tank can probably take limited chain vaping, but then you need to rest it for a few minutes.
If you are not getting satisfaction from using it at a slower pace then you have two options:
1. Up your nicotine level. This will give more of a "kick" to your vape meaning you get more nicotine faster and also more throat hit, as would higher pg levels (50:50 or 65:45 Pg:Vg). This will be closer to smoking a cigarette and more satisfying initially. Don't worry about how much nicotine you're taking, the important thing is that you don't feel the need to pick up a smoke. The nicotine levels you take in will probably drop over time as you get used to vaping and dare I say it: enjoy it.
2. Up your vapour volume. I haven't used the baby beast either, but it's big brother pumps out so much vapour that, when I first used it, two or three hits felt like having had a whole cigarette. 5 mins of vaping had me nic sick.
I would recommend you try upping the nicotine level. Remember you aren't actually smoking. It's not the same. It will take some getting used to.
Regarding the gurgling. That sounds like a flooded coil. If you are vaping below the recommended watts, particularly after filling you are going to be prone to that. Upping the watts a bit for long enough to "burn it off" (not that you're burning anything) helps. I just had some flooding in the tank I'm using now because I didn't do a great job of wicking it. Upped the watts from 100 to 120 for about 5 pulls and its sorted and back down to 100. DON'T put your nautilus up anywhere near that level, but you get the idea.
It is also possible that because of the way you are vaping (assuming chain vaping), you have put a bit too much pressure on the wicking in your coil and it's not behaving optimally.
About the price. I was a rollie smoker. It's still cheaper to vape in the long run. Significantly. Initially it was more expensive for me because I was trying out different tanks, mods, liquids etc and I destroyed more coils than I care to admit because I didn't know what I was doing. What I should have done was make my way to a bricks and mortar and ask them to show me how to use my kit. I was complaining about how much I was spending at home when I started and my OH said "Don't worry about the cost, the important thing is you're not smoking". I'd forgotten that in my cost hangup. Now I make my own juice and have a few tanks and mods I'm happy with. Shinyitis still strikes from time to time, but I've got to spend the money I've saved on something right? I think I broke even at about 5 months in.
Everybody likes different flavours. I like subtle fruits as a bright note against creams or bakery flavours. When my sense of taste came back I discovered I didn't like the taste of tobacco, but many others only use tobacco flavours. Find what's right for you and don't sweat what you spend initially. You can't put a price on the health benefits and it'll all come sweet in the end when you've found what suits you.
Thanks a lot man!
Yes, I was vaping just like a cigarette. I kind of changed that habit and now its much better!!!!! THANKS!!!!
and I also did the same thing which you said. If i notice that gurgling, do what youdipstick suggested and the next message and then I pump up the voltage to highest of the coil (23w for nautilus) and after a min or two, it is fixed!youdipstick wrote: »I agree with you there nobodys_hero & I also watched the video from Mike Vapes about the tank that bartszu put up...
Mike doesn't mention heat at all in either coil & I watched a few more videos & still nothing about about the tank heating up.
I know what you mean about chain vaping can really burn our lips but hard to imagine it on a nautilus,maybe your'e right because I have never used a 0.7 coil in a nautilus,as you say,the air flow is the most important thing to do correctly or the coil will not work properly.
It's annoying that we can't help newbies face to face,we have to rely on vape shops having experienced vapors,second guessing is difficult.
Alanman is using the Alien with the nautilus2,which is ok as long as the setting are correct,maybe the Alien is pumping out too much power,I seem to remember that the Alien needed firmware updated when I got mine & that was the only mod that didn't brick if the software was loaded wrong,which I did & had to re do it,Smok devices need to have the fire button pressed while upgrading & my arthritic hands couldn't hold it:D:D
I find the easiest way of getting rid of gurgling is to hold the tank upside down & blow through the mouth piece,hold a bit of tissue over the air holes to catch the excess juice while blowing...
Hopefully alanman will get it sorted...it's a right bugger being a newbie but we all went through it at some stage & the vaping hardware today is 10 times better than the old days.
Thanks for the trick to fix the gurgling. Really helped!
And the settings on my mod are correct i believe. I'm use it with 18-20w with strength at soft. But I believe it also because of the way I was vaping (more like a cigarette). Now i try short drags and give a gap of ~10 secs so it's not really heating THAT MUCH. It heats a bit, but nothing unbearable so i assume 'chain vaping' was what made the tank heat up like the sun lol
And yes, I agree about your last point. I am new to vaping and right now, I'm not really sure if i did something wrong or thats what vaping is like haha. Like when I went to the shop, the guy set everything up and I took the first drag and it felt like someone put a knife in my throat haha. I told the guy this and he was like "oh yeah thats vaping you have to get used to it" but after the help from all you guys, its much better now!
Yes I use it at soft 90% of the time. Sometimes, when it feels like i'd like a bit more flavour, i crank it up to normal.nobodys_hero wrote: »Ah, yes. When I use my smaller tank (cubis pro) on my xcube I have to run it on soft or even minimum rather than normal or the ramp up is too fast for it. The alien is pretty much the same as the xcube in a nicer case.
haha well, i have 'drank' ejuice directly due to it leaking and gurgling so going in the eye wont be too bad lolAlways run my mini alien on soft. Iv never noticed the baby beast getting too hot, however the entire mod does get warm when chaining. Especially if its on charge.
I use my nautilus 2 with an istick 30w. Its my daily carry for work. Can take the abuse lol. If i chain it will get warm too
Neither get warm to the point it burns tho.
And plus 2 on turning the tank upside down and blowing into it to get rid of the excess. Make sure there is tissue around the air hole. Cant imagine ejuice in the eye would be good lol.And he is using his restricted airflow high ohmage Nautilus with device pumping 200 W of power
You Alanman I will make two remarks.
1. You are very heavy smoker, 40 cigs a day, you better get into vaping or quit right now. I don't see much options for you unfortunately.
2. Vaping is a hobby mainly, it is a lot connected to DIY. Way do you think all early boxes were called mods ?? I have build my own mechanical mods, one of them is great and is working perfect till now on, using 4x18650. I am plotting my own coils, my own Claptons. I make my own coils even not using an Ohm meter, just calculating them by that, it works great.
http://bit.ly/2qesxoc
So if you wanna vaping, you better do your homework. Go to YT and learn, learn about, Ohm`s Law, learn about power output, about batteries and boxes. PG/VG ratios. To do that you don't even need to read, all is on YT.
So good luck, and don't smoke man
Wow man, I am impressed haha.
And i'd say my problem was with setting everything up. Now, its a bit better than before thanks to all you guys. I mean, earlier I was kind of forcing my self to vape and I asked myself if I just wasted a hundred quid on this **** haha
Yes, I'll start watching YT after the exams!
Phew!
THANKS A LOT GUYS!!!! You have no idea how close I was to selling the kit lol
I can't say i'm happy with vaping but I know I am getting there haha. Just need to sort out a few more kinks lol
Thanks a lot!
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P.S Only 2 cigs in the last 24 hours
That's great. My trick (and it's what worked for me: everybody's different) was to tell myself I was allowed to smoke whenever I wanted but to try to vape instead. I was quickly down to one in the morning and one at night. Then my sense of taste came back and I preferred my vape to my cigarettes. Got half way through my morning smoke one morning and chucked it because it was gross. Been "clean" for 10 months now. Still have tobacco in my car. Don't want it. Like my vape.
I was using 12/16/18mg nic when I quit. Then, I got my second mod and used 6mg in that. I'd keep the other mod with the stronger nic on standby for when I really felt the need for a better hit. Now I only use 3 or 6 mg, with the 6 being the one I go to for that extra kick if I think I need it. I was worried that I was taking in more nicotine than I was smoking initially, and I probably was. But it worked, and now I'm not taking in more.
In short do whatever it takes! Good luck and thanks for the thanks!0 -
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One thing you might notice if the vape is tearing the throat out of you is that lowering your nicotine level reduces it. My husband was on 12mg liquid, and I got him the Zelos kit with the Nautilus tank - first hit off it he nearly choked and he was finding the vape quite harsh. He thought it was the tank, but then today he bought an 8mg liquid and he says it's much better. He also had a bit of a problem with flooding/gurgling in the Nautilus and the juice he bought today was 80/20 VG/PG, so it was thicker than the liquid he was using before (30/70 VG/PG) and he's noticed a dramatic reduction in gurgling since.
YouTube will definitely be your friend. I watched a tonne of stuff before buying my husband the Zelos because I wanted to be sure I'd done my research. The only thing to beware of is that, aside from learning loads, you'll suddenly start wanting to get all the stuff! It's lucky I'm broke cos otherwise I'd probably have ordered a tonne of stuff that I've no idea how to use
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nobodys_hero wrote: »That's great. My trick (and it's what worked for me: everybody's different) was to tell myself I was allowed to smoke whenever I wanted but to try to vape instead. I was quickly down to one in the morning and one at night. Then my sense of taste came back and I preferred my vape to my cigarettes. Got half way through my morning smoke one morning and chucked it because it was gross. Been "clean" for 10 months now. Still have tobacco in my car. Don't want it. Like my vape.
I was using 12/16/18mg nic when I quit. Then, I got my second mod and used 6mg in that. I'd keep the other mod with the stronger nic on standby for when I really felt the need for a better hit. Now I only use 3 or 6 mg, with the 6 being the one I go to for that extra kick if I think I need it. I was worried that I was taking in more nicotine than I was smoking initially, and I probably was. But it worked, and now I'm not taking in more.
In short do whatever it takes! Good luck and thanks for the thanks!
Thanks a lot!
That actually works. I do the same thing, whenever I feel like smoking, I just try my vape nowOne thing you might notice if the vape is tearing the throat out of you is that lowering your nicotine level reduces it. My husband was on 12mg liquid, and I got him the Zelos kit with the Nautilus tank - first hit off it he nearly choked and he was finding the vape quite harsh. He thought it was the tank, but then today he bought an 8mg liquid and he says it's much better. He also had a bit of a problem with flooding/gurgling in the Nautilus and the juice he bought today was 80/20 VG/PG, so it was thicker than the liquid he was using before (30/70 VG/PG) and he's noticed a dramatic reduction in gurgling since.
YouTube will definitely be your friend. I watched a tonne of stuff before buying my husband the Zelos because I wanted to be sure I'd done my research. The only thing to beware of is that, aside from learning loads, you'll suddenly start wanting to get all the stuff! It's lucky I'm broke cos otherwise I'd probably have ordered a tonne of stuff that I've no idea how to use
OMG thanks. I had two different kind of liquids. One was 70/30 and the other one was a bit less viscous (and more 'liquidy'? lol). I assume thats 50/50 and using this, I dont get a lot of gurgling.
Btw, one more question. I bought the 1.8ohm nautilus coils as someone suggested.
When I tried a flavour in the shop, it tasted really nice and strong. So i bought it, came home, changed the coils and everything, but now I hardly get any flavour. idk if I messed up the coil or what but I'm not getting a strong flavour. I tried from 8w to 14w (the maximum of the coil) and also set the strength to hard on my kit but I just can't get a good flavour. Any suggestions?
And which shop should I go to in dublin? The shop I went to isn't good. I mean, the staff just treated my like a customer who wants to buy something instead of actually helping me set everything up. Which shop do you think has really knowledgable and helpful staff?0 -
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