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I want to rent a car but I don't have a credit card.

  • 29-04-2017 12:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭


    Not sure where to post this, mods if it's in the wrong place feel free to move it.

    I want to rent a car for a couple of days but I think you need a credit card to do that, and I don't have one.

    Are there any car rental companies that don't require a credit card? Could I leave a deposit instead? Any ideas?


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Dooley's take debit cards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    Not sure where to post this, mods if it's in the wrong place feel free to move it.

    I want to rent a car for a couple of days but I think you need a credit card to do that, and I don't have one.

    Are there any car rental companies that don't require a credit card? Could I leave a deposit instead? Any ideas?

    As long you have a Visa (not visa electron or visa debit) or MasterCard you'll be fine.

    Our European Debit Cards are much like Credit Cards, contrary to those debit cards on us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    grogi wrote: »
    As long you have a Visa (not visa electron or visa debit) or MasterCard you'll be fine.

    Are these not credit cards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Are these not credit cards?

    I have three Visa cards and one MasterCard (Revolut) - none of which is a credit card.

    revolutcard.png

    As long as the logo says Visa or MasterCard (and there is sufficient balance on the account) the card should be accepted. Unless you run into a super-pain-in-the-a$$ clerk who simply doesn't want you to rent the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Have you looked at go car , think you only need to pay a subscription and then use you bank debit card


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭mistress_gi


    Call the rental company, but usually if you buy full insurance you don't have to leave a deposit and could use your debit card.
    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,630 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    grogi wrote: »
    I have three Visa cards and one MasterCard (Revolut) - none of which is a credit card.

    revolutcard.png

    As long as the logo says Visa or MasterCard (and there is sufficient balance on the account) the card should be accepted. Unless you run into a super-pain-in-the-a$$ clerk who simply doesn't want you to rent the car.

    Firstly, most of the major companies (Dooley excepted) specify a credit card. Secondly, for some cards they would have to debit €2,500 to cover themselves as, unlike a credit card, you can't block funds on a debit card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,572 ✭✭✭Colser


    I didn't have a credit card so I had to give a utility bill and payslip..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Steer55


    Hi I rented from Hertz last weekend, my ptsb visa debit card was accepted. They held 2000 euro from it until a day after I returned the car as my super excess insurance policy was sourced from different company.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    Indigo Car Hire in the UK specialise in renting cars without the need for a credit card (they accept debit card).

    http://indigocarhire.co.uk/

    I used them last summer in Germany and they were able to find me a good deal on a car rental with the debit card with Avis. Worth a ring surely :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Marcusm wrote: »
    Secondly, for some cards they would have to debit ?2,500 to cover themselves as, unlike a credit card, you can't block funds on a debit card.
    Steer55 wrote: »
    Hi I rented from Hertz last weekend, my ptsb visa debit card was accepted. They held 2000 euro from it until a day after I returned the car as my super excess insurance policy was sourced from different company.

    So who is correct here?
    Those two seem to contradict each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Seems they took payment on DC, then refunded it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 caffers3


    CiniO wrote: »
    So who is correct here?
    Those two seem to contradict each other.

    A merchant can look for authorisation for an amount on a debit card. That can put a funds hold on the account for up to ten days if they don't process the transaction.

    OP I rented with Dooleys a couple of years ago with a Debit Card. Think they put about €500 on hold until a couple of days after the car was returned.

    Edit: Just checked there and it was €580


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    CiniO wrote: »
    So who is correct here?
    Those two seem to contradict each other.

    There is a difference between blocking a figure on a credit card and taking a charge of say €2000 on a debit card. The debit card charge is returned by way of charge back where the credit card block falls away after a certain amount of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Seems they took payment on DC, then refunded it.
    There is a difference between blocking a figure on a credit card and taking a charge of say ?2000 on a debit card. The debit card charge is returned by way of charge back where the credit card block falls away after a certain amount of time.

    Again the same.
    Above answers seem to contradict answer below:
    caffers3 wrote: »
    A merchant can look for authorisation for an amount on a debit card. That can put a funds hold on the account for up to ten days if they don't process the transaction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Europa hire out cars on a debit card and hold a nominal value I think it's €200 but you are required to take out the premium insurance which is €26/day Ithink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    CiniO wrote: »
    Again the same.
    Above answers seem to contradict answer below:

    http://www.gemut.com/car-rental-europe-basics/4013-credit-card-blocks.html

    "It's not a charge to your account but a “hold” on a specific amount"

    As it's not a charge there are no card fees. In a Debit card the renter has a fee for the charge or the charge back.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Europa hire out cars on a debit card and hold a nominal value I think it's €200 but you are required to take out the premium insurance which is €26/day Ithink

    Hertz will take debit cards with no charge (except fuel) once excess insurance taken out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    http://www.gemut.com/car-rental-europe-basics/4013-credit-card-blocks.html

    "It's not a charge to your account but a ?hold? on a specific amount"

    As it's not a charge there are no card fees. In a Debit card the renter has a fee for the charge or the charge back.

    OK.
    But other post by caffers3 indicates, that they can put specific amount on hold on a debit card the same way as on credit card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,006 ✭✭✭bmwguy


    Strange these responses because I tried about 2 months ago and was declined by everyone with no credit card. They were all airport rental companies so maybe that was the reason. Didn't have to in the end so didn't matter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    CiniO wrote: »
    OK.
    But other post by caffers3 indicates, that they can put specific amount on hold on a debit card the same way as on credit card.

    It's not on hold it's a charge it leaves your account and remains out of your account until the rental company arranges a charge back unlike a hold which falls away with no action.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    bmwguy wrote: »
    Strange these responses because I tried about 2 months ago and was declined by everyone with no credit card. They were all airport rental companies so maybe that was the reason. Didn't have to in the end so didn't matter.

    A number of companies do take debit cards but there are rules I know for a fact hertz take debit cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    It's not on hold it's a charge it leaves your account and remains out of your account until the rental company arranges a charge back unlike a hold which falls away with no action.

    I have a debit card issued by foreign bank, and I regularly use it for car rental and was never refused.
    They block the amount of deposit on it (f.e. €1500) but it works the same as you described with credit card.
    Amount is not charged to my card, instead just blocked (shows as money still on account but blocked). If I return car intact, then they free up the amount.

    Only thing is that card is Mastercard (not Mastercard debit) so rental companies think it's a credit card (while in fact it isn't) and that's why they accept it.

    But what I wonder would regular debit card issued by Irish bank work the same way that certain amount could be blocked the same as on credit card?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Atomic Pineapple


    I've rented with Avis before using a debit card but I had to take out the full coverage on the car to avoid a charge on the debit card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    Hertz will take debit cards with no charge (except fuel) once excess insurance taken out.

    I think they take the price of a tank of fuel incase you don't refill it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    I think they take the price of a tank of fuel incase you don't refill it.

    Yes and a refuel fee of if I remember €25.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    CiniO wrote: »
    I have a debit card issued by foreign bank, and I regularly use it for car rental and was never refused.

    But what I wonder would regular debit card issued by Irish bank work the same way that certain amount could be blocked the same as on credit card?

    I have a debit card issued by Ulster Bank. It is a Visa card, nobody ever blinked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    grogi wrote: »
    I have a debit card issued by Ulster Bank. It is a Visa card, nobody ever blinked.

    Visa or Visa debit?

    I have Visa Debit like that:
    image.dmp.full.ubidac-servicecard%20(2).png


    Are you saying I could use that for car rental, even if they clearly say they only accept Credit Cards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    CiniO wrote: »
    Visa or Visa debit?

    I have Visa Debit like that:
    image.dmp.full.ubidac-servicecard%20(2).png


    Are you saying I could use that for car rental, even if they clearly say they only accept Credit Cards?

    A one like that

    image.dmp.full.ub_article_ri_debitcard.png

    I used it multiple times when 'Only Credit Cards Accepted' caveat was stated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    grogi wrote:
    As long as the logo says Visa or MasterCard (and there is sufficient balance on the account) the card should be accepted. Unless you run into a super-pain-in-the-a$$ clerk who simply doesn't want you to rent the car.


    This is nonsense. OP, for your information, there is only one car rental company operating in the Irish market that will accept debit cards as a form of payment - Northgate Vehicle Hire. They primarily offer van hire but also rent cars. A 250 euro deposit, full driving licence and proof of residence (two recent utility bills) are required when booking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,695 ✭✭✭gizmo81


    We've used Europa Pearse Street and Budget U.K. no hassle with visa debit card. If you pay the €26ish excesss super insurance the hold on a debit card then is about €200. Back in account promptly too I may add.

    Be warned ringing sometimes the call centre don't know about this.
    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    Europa hire out cars on a debit card and hold a nominal value I think it's €200 but you are required to take out the premium insurance which is €26/day Ithink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    chicorytip wrote: »
    This is nonsense. OP, for your information, there is only one car rental company operating in the Irish market that will accept debit cards as a form of payment - Northgate Vehicle Hire. They primarily offer van hire but also rent cars. A 250 euro deposit, full driving licence and proof of residence (two recent utility bills) are required when booking.

    With regard to your own comment. You hit the nail on the head in your first sentence. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    just get a credit card, it only takes a couple of days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,373 ✭✭✭iwillhtfu


    just get a credit card, it only takes a couple of days

    I assume he cant which wouldn't be uncommon post recession believe it or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    chicorytip wrote: »
    This is nonsense. OP, for your information, there is only one car rental company operating in the Irish market that will accept debit cards as a form of payment - Northgate Vehicle Hire. They primarily offer van hire but also rent cars. A 250 euro deposit, full driving licence and proof of residence (two recent utility bills) are required when booking.

    That is incorrect as I rent from a number of rental companies with a debit card including Hertz recently.

    https://www.hertz.ie/rentacar/reservation/reviewmodifycancel/templates/rentalTerms.jsp?KEYWORD=MOP&EOAG=WATC60

    "Selected debit cards are accepted as a valid method of payment when you make a reservation. The renter should present the debit card used for the booking at the Hertz counter.
    Acceptable debit cards are: Visa only if the cardholder's details on the card are embossed. No other debit card will be accepted."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 555 ✭✭✭shaunr68


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    I assume he cant which wouldn't be uncommon post recession believe it or not.

    Can't, or of course there are those who won't - either on principle, or don't want the temptation of easy credit, or see the CC companies as little better than loan sharks, or simply live entirely in the black and have no need of a credit card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    I'd double check before accepting any advice ...
    I was told by someone before that some will accept debit and chance it as long as the booking goes through.
    So I thought id chance it....booked away with my debit and all went through fine... rocked up to collect car and handed card. They then said because it was a debit I'd have to take out some extortionate insurance policy.
    Some gaffe in hotel near shannon airport.

    Maybe like someone said above if I had the money in my account then it might have worked... but I get the feeling the company was on a mission to sell the extra insurance.

    BTW because I took out the insurance they said they'd give me a free upgrade. I remember hearing about this tip yonks ago.
    So if yissr ever thinking of getting a nice car it's worth ringing them up with a lower category and and asking if they'll upgrade you if you take out insurance with them (have calculator handy to compare with online price). I think they get sales commission or some such for getting folk onto the insurance plan.
    Another one if youve time is to save a booking enquiry and in a few days they'll remind you with a fairly good discount.

    Anyhow, sorry if off topic but might save the op money if they get shafted elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭mcbobbyb


    Only last week we returned our car which we had for two weeks. It was booked with Hertz and we used our debit card. They held around 800 Euro on the account until it was returned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,616 ✭✭✭grogi


    Gebgbegb wrote: »
    Maybe like someone said above if I had the money in my account then it might have worked... but I get the feeling the company was on a mission to sell the extra insurance.

    Yes, they were. That's where the money is.

    If one is renting for a day or two, it is generally not a bad idea to take that insurance. One is buying the convenience of not having to check the car before leaving the car-park, usually being upgraded in the process. But it will be cheaper to just cover the excess in case a disaster happens than to purchase it for much longer time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,257 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    "Selected debit cards are accepted as a valid method of payment when you make a reservation. The renter should present the debit card used for the booking at the Hertz counter. Acceptable debit cards are: Visa only if the cardholder's details on the card are embossed. No other debit card will be accepted."


    I can only speak from personal experience which is the complete opposite. Did you make that particular reservation online or by telephone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    chicorytip wrote: »
    I can only speak from personal experience which is the complete opposite. Did you make that particular reservation online or by telephone?

    Online and the first rental I rang the office to confirm, I do it whenever I rent from a new company or a new country.

    Most I have discovered if you either take excess insurance or allow a charge in advance for the excess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    iwillhtfu wrote: »
    I assume he cant which wouldn't be uncommon post recession believe it or not.

    Correct. And I have enough in my account to buy hertz a new car should I wreck it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭JackieChang


    Gebgbegb wrote: »

    They then said because it was a debit I'd have to take out some extortionate insurance policy.

    How much was the policy? I don't mind paying an extra few quid. I only plan to rent the car for two days so can't be that much. I'd much rather pay insurance than have them hold a few hundred yoyos of my money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭Really Interested


    How much was the policy? I don't mind paying an extra few quid. I only plan to rent the car for two days so can't be that much. I'd much rather pay insurance than have them hold a few hundred yoyos of my money.

    The excess cover is about 24 a day.


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