Ireland needs to join Schegan

Stephen15

Not sure which forum but why cant Ireland join bloody Schegan was flying to Italy last week and had to go through the longest passport queue ever all because The Italian authorites insisted on checking passports through a computerised system rather than checking them in person like they do here and also you have to go through passport control separate to security in Italian airports. Just join Schegan Ireland and make everyones life easier. This all just to keep UK travellers happy. There is a wider Europe besides Britain and NI.

LiamaDelta

We can't join Schengen whilst we have an open land-border with another non-Schengen country.

28064212

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not sure which forum but why cant Ireland join bloody Schegan was flying to Italy last week and had to go through the longest passport queue ever all because The Italian authorites insisted on checking passports through a computerised system rather than checking them in person like they do here and also you have to go through passport control separate to security in Italian airports. Just join Schegan Ireland and make everyones life easier. This all just to keep UK travellers happy. There is a wider Europe besides Britain and NI.

Eh, joining the Schengen area wouldn't make any difference to airport passport checks. Someone flying from Germany to Italy would have had the exact same passport queue

Stephen15

28064212 wrote: »

Eh, joining the Schengen area wouldn't make any difference to airport passport checks. Someone flying from Germany to Italy would have had the exact same passport queue

Not always true it depends on the airport your flying into whether they check passports or not some airports have separate arrivals area for schegan and non-schegan arrivals.

The airport I was in had separate gates behind a passport control office for non schegan flights because I saw a flight to Munich departing from the main airport concourse which I had to walk through in order to get to the non schegan gates.

Locker10a

Unfortunatly, the world seems to be going in a direction away from schegan, and common/free travel. Borders are all the rage now sadly and so I highly doubt you'll see any extension of Schengan, of anything we will see less and less of it and similar agreements if things continue as they are politically.

L1011

We aren't going to join Schengen unless the UK does and, pretty clearly, they aren't. We would need to revoke the GFA to do so otherwise. Or wait for some form of unification/federalisation with NI in 30+ years.

Cloudio9

With the deteriorating security situation across Europe I disagree OP even if it occasionally cause some delays.

If schengen was something being proposed in the EU today I doubt it would be adopted.

LXFlyer

28064212 wrote: »

Eh, joining the Schengen area wouldn't make any difference to airport passport checks. Someone flying from Germany to Italy would have had the exact same passport queue

No they would not - passengers on intra-Schengen flights do not have to pass through passport control (unless temporary local controls are put in place in response to a security issue).

As for Ireland joining Schengen - not a chance. Just because OP you had to wait at an airport in a queue frankly is not a good enough reason. And the rationale for the status quo certainly has more than keeping the UK happy behind it as already outlined.

As the previous poster stated, with the ongoing security issues, I am far happier that both the UK and Ireland are outside Schengen.

Stephen15

Cloudio9 wrote: »

With the deteriorating security situation across Europe I disagree OP even if it occasionally cause some delays.

If schengen was something being proposed in the EU today I doubt it would be adopted.

All because of all this current Trumpism and Brexiteering racist nonsense.

Cloudio9

Stephen15 wrote: »

All because of all this current Trumpism and Brexiteering racist nonsense.

If you think wanting to know what people are entering our country is racism then ok.

Stephen15

lxflyer wrote: »

No they would not - passengers on intra-Schengen flights do not have to pass through passport control (unless temporary local controls are put in place in response to a security issue).

As for Ireland joining Schengen - not a chance. Just because OP you had to wait at an airport in a queue frankly is not a good enough reason. And the rationale for the status quo certainly has more than keeping the UK happy behind it as already outlined.

As the previous poster stated, with the ongoing security issues, I am far happier that both the UK and Ireland are outside Schengen.

I was speaking to an Italian woman who was saying that she often left queing in London for over 2 hours at passport control. Im sure buisness travellers also have to suffer through crap its purely a we're better than them typical British narrow minded policy. All the other Schegan have to take their fair share accept us. Nationlism and Racism have no place in this day and age.

Stephen15

Cloudio9 wrote: »

If you think wanting to know what people are entering our country is racism then ok.

If the people were criminals they would be under a European arrest warrant do we not trust our fellow EU member states.

Charles Babbage

Until we remove the British from the northern part of the country there isn't much to be done except staff the immigration booths properly. They know how many flights are arriving and how many are on them, put the staff there, visitors should not experience chaos as their first experience in Ireland.

Ken.

Mod-Being discussed by us AH mods right now on weather to open this or not. We'll let ye know either way. Just give us a little time due to the late hour.

Ken.

Mod-This is not really for AH so going to move it to the travel forum.