Paying a fine with coins

pudzey101

Asking for a friend foremost ....

Friend of mine got a 40e parking ticket , accepted the fact he let the ticket run out ... Went into pay it the following day with a jar full of 1 cent - 1 euro coins ( counted exactly to 40 euro .

Girl at the desk said they only accept notes or credit cards ( This was not in writing when he asked for that policy )


Whats the law regarding payment in buisness' or shops in Ireland ?


PS : he wasnt being smart/cheeky he counted out the correct amount and brought it in . Just wanted rid of the coins that built up over a period of months ?

vandriver

50 coins is the limit for legal tender.

10.—(1) No person, other than the Central Bank of Ireland and such persons as may be designated by the Minister by order, shall be obliged to accept more than 50 coins denominated in euro or in cent in any single transaction.

From the monetary union act 1998

ceegee

pudzey101 wrote: »

Asking for a friend foremost ....

Friend of mine got a 40e parking ticket , accepted the fact he let the ticket run out ... Went into pay it the following day with a jar full of 1 cent - 1 euro coins ( counted exactly to 40 euro .

Girl at the desk said they only accept notes or credit cards ( This was not in writing when he asked for that policy )


Whats the law regarding payment in buisness' or shops in Ireland ?


PS : he wasnt being smart/cheeky he counted out the correct amount and brought it in . Just wanted rid of the coins that built up over a period of months ?

No obligation to accept more than 50 coins

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/38/section/10/enacted/en/html#zza38y1998s10

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Tell him to pay with notes and stop being a prick

pudzey101

vandriver wrote: »

50 coins is the limit for legal tender.

10.—(1) No person, other than the Central Bank of Ireland and such persons as may be designated by the Minister by order, shall be obliged to accept more than 50 coins denominated in euro or in cent in any single transaction.

From the monetary union act 1998

cheers , so paying 40 1euro coins cant be refused legally right

Damien360

Very hard to find the specific legal tender info in a quick search but 50 coins or less springs to mind as being max allowed.

Edit: someone found the act above

Stoolbend

pudzey101 wrote: »

cheers , so paying 40 1euro coins cant be refused legally right

Why would anyone want to do this?

TherapyBoy

Stoolbend wrote: »

Why would anyone want to do this?

They consider it a victory, doing petty stuff like this.

Del2005

pudzey101 wrote: »

cheers , so paying 40 1euro coins cant be refused legally right

Yes, but all you do is slightly annoy the person at the counter. It doesn't affect "The Man" in the slightest. If you wanted you could make it 50 coins by using 50c coins as well as Euro.

pudzey101

sound will pass it on

J.pilkington

Hilarious, your friend while trying to be a smartass has ended up wasting a load more of their own time than they had planned;
- spent likely a fair bit of time counting out €40 in small coins,
- attended the council with probably great ambitions of beating the system, but was told to jog on,
- got you to research on the internet,
- will now go and count out €40 in more coins,
- print off the legislation quoted above,
- revisit the council with their print off and try pay again with coins and be as big of a Dick as they can if they are told no.

Seriously what a waste of people's times, your friend probably has nothing better to do, but spare the council workers time, they are the ones feeling the pain of this idiotic charade not the tds you are probably trying to inconvenience.

Homer

I often used to wonder what people who work for the council in offices actually did.. now I know.. Jesus fcuking wept.. how childish

hungry hypno toad

J.pilkington wrote: »

Hilarious, your friend while trying to be a smartass has ended up wasting a load more of their own time than they had planned;
- spent likely a fair bit of time counting out €40 in small coins,
- attended the council with probably great ambitions of beating the system, but was told to jog on,
- got you to research on the internet,
- will now go and count out €40 in more coins,
- print off the legislation quoted above,
- revisit the council with their print off and try pay again with coins and be as big of a Dick as they can if they are told no.

Seriously what a waste of people's times, your friend probably has nothing better to do, but spare the council workers time, they are the ones feeling the pain of this idiotic charade not the tds you are probably trying to inconvenience.

Time management wouldn't be the 'friends' forte otherwise he wouldn't have been fined.

OldMrBrennan83

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DMcL1971

Why is everyone having a go at the friend. It clearly states in the original post that he wasn't doing this as some form of protest but just getting rid of some spare coins.

pudzey101 wrote: »

PS : he wasnt being smart/cheeky he counted out the correct amount and brought it in . Just wanted rid of the coins that built up over a period of months ?

Buffman

Once you stick to the 50 coin limit, legal tender is legal tender, so don't see an issue myself. I'd see it as very hypocritical of them the be ignoring the law while expecting you to pay a fine.

Now, if you go in with an attitude and just start spraying coinage everywhere, that's a different story and not on. But I can certainly see where the motivation is coming from if someone deems themselves to have been wronged in some manner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN1awl2KetM

And I can't deny that sometimes I've felt like paying my motor tax like this guy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wGD84j0_t8

pudzey101 wrote: »

Girl at the desk said they only accept notes or credit cards ( This was not in writing when he asked for that policy )

Next time you go in (with 50 coins or less) get a record of your attempt to pay so that if it goes to court you can show the judge you tried to pay.

(I know most people would say you're mad to risk court for it, but I know (Edit: of) a lad (Edit: from a story in the local paper) who went all the way to the High Court over a parking fine, and won.)

Samuel T. Cogley

DMcL1971 wrote: »

Why is everyone having a go at the friend. It clearly states in the original post that he wasn't doing this as some form of protest but just getting rid of some spare coins.

Presumably people suspect the OP/OP's friend of telling porkies.

Nonoperational

pudzey101 wrote: »

Asking for a friend foremost ....

Friend of mine got a 40e parking ticket , accepted the fact he let the ticket run out ... Went into pay it the following day with a jar full of 1 cent - 1 euro coins ( counted exactly to 40 euro .

Girl at the desk said they only accept notes or credit cards ( This was not in writing when he asked for that policy )


Whats the law regarding payment in buisness' or shops in Ireland ?


PS : he wasnt being smart/cheeky he counted out the correct amount and brought it in . Just wanted rid of the coins that built up over a period of months ?

Ya right. What an absolute clown.

TheAnalyst_

#madlad

nd

They have the auto counter machines in alot of shops nowdays. Did it recently with 2 bags of coins. It counted in in less than about 2 minutes and got over 100 euro. They take 12% of the amount as a charge. Very handy.

johndaman66

nd wrote: »

They have the auto counter machines in alot of shops nowdays. Did it recently with 2 bags of coins. It counted in in less than about 2 minutes and got over 100 euro. They take 12% of the amount as a charge. Very handy.

Bloody extortion more like if you ask me.


Each to their own and all that but I'd rather just keep my coinage to an absolute minimum, I've never being in a situation where I had to get rid of anything near 40 €1 coins.

OldMrBrennan83

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Timberrrrrrrr

Patww79 wrote: »

30 one euro coins and 20 fifty cent coins

Would take all of 30 seconds for a cashier to count that.

nd

Patww79 wrote: »

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Same here. I had cups all over the house full of change that was there prob. over 10 years. It'd still be there for years more only I was stuck for money!

Mervyn Skidmore

Patww79 wrote: »

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The ones in Tesco charge a percentage too. I just use the self checkout and pay with my coins. It takes a few minutes extra but at least I get the full value for them.

Sam Kade

Who the phuck posts this on behalf of a friend? Admit it op it is you, isn't it?

pudzey101

Lol if it was me id pay up in notes it cant be me though as i drive a motorbike so no parking tickets or fines needed

CeilingFly

pudzey101 wrote: »

Whats the law regarding payment in buisness' or shops in Ireland ?

In terms of shops, a shop may refuse any form of payment. Furthermore a shop can legally not give change. (it would close down very quickly if it didn't though)

Legal tender must only be accepted where a debt has occurred. In a retail transaction, no debt has occurred, so a store can refuse €100 notes or a bag of coins. Totally up to them.

Good business dictates reasonable attitude.

In terms of a parking ticket, a debt has occurred, so if payment via 50 coins is not accepted, then I think the debt can be extinguished.

uck51js9zml2yt

had a few idiots paying their motor tax using piles of loose coins.....we made them wait while we counted them very...very slowly

the problem was that as it was a tax it couldnt be refused, a fine may be different!

endacl

pudzey101 wrote: »

sound will pass it on

You might advise his copping on while you're at it?

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Buffman wrote: »

(I know most people would say you're mad to risk court for it, but I know a lad who went all the way to the High Court over a parking fine, and won.)

And what a fcuking waste of tax payers money that was