Trevor Deely - Second Man

justo

franciscurragh wrote: »

I'm surprised that this thread is still here as there is a very active on the Trevor Deely case with more than 3000 posts and all of the issues raised here have been addressed there.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057729470

I have read those threads but they don't focus on the topic of this thread in detail.

justo

jenny smith wrote: »

I did not see all of blevins or any mcintyre so did not know about mistaking the man in glasses as TD leaving. Bleveins is a pain to watch. His claim to know where trevor would have been taken as there were no cameras -plus the umbrella claims-shows enough of his thinking. His does not know where all the cctv camera in dublin were 17 years ago.
I have seen mcintyre before and do not consider him worth watching. A news paper report said he had nothing new
I do not know what you mean by why the cctv is rolling in most parts. I imagine the problems with it is it is old vhs cctv. a lotof cctv even today is very poor. A supermarket i go to has a monitor over the checkout where the movements of people on it are all jerky. in 2017.
I do not know about the MIB. My thinking re gardai is they are very careful what they put into the public domain. Somethings are always held back. One reason is in case of people falsely confessing. The garda want to see if the person has all the info. There could be any number of reasons -including possible legal reasons- why gardai do what they do and they do not share their information with the public and with people like blevin

When I say 'rolling' I mean there are many frames and movement. The pic of the man in the glasses in just that - a pic. I'd love to know if the CCTV of the whole hour exists or not. Do the Gardai know when the MIB left the gate at camera 2?

franciscurragh

All of the questions raised here have been covered on the other thread including the second person at the gate, the third person at the gate etc, Leroy's videos etc.

Of course, there are over 3000 posts in that thread and it's easier to start a new one...

jenny smith

When I say 'rolling' I mean there are many frames and movement. The pic of the man in the glasses in just that - a pic. I'd love to know if the CCTV of the whole hour exists or not. Do the Gardai know when the MIB left the gate at camera 2

I understand rolling now. I do not know if the CCTV of the whole hour exists or not. I doubt very much everything was released.Gardai never do that. There is always something held back

jenny smith

I cannot see glasses on the man said to have them. i see what apears to be some sort of hat? A baseball cap with the peak sideways? Or also looks like a tam https://www.google.com/search?q=tam+hat&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiL4ITxzMTTAhXI6RQKHTmXDDAQ_AUICygC&biw=1280&bih=546&dpr=1.25#imgrc=v1Vo8STeeDSKTM:

Can anyone see that? Can anyone blow up the face in photoshop?

chicorytip

Claonadh1 wrote:

I saw this on youtube and am completely baffled. It seems like there were actually two men at the gate of BOIAM, not just the one highlighted by the Gardai recently after the enhanced footage was released. This is based on the original CCTV footage which was included in the Donal McIntyre documentary last year. He incorrectly assumes the second man is Trevor but when you look at it in light of the enhanced footage and time stamps etc. you can see that it's clearly not. The video below explains it all better than I can and would encourage people to look at it.

Claonadh1 wrote:

I'm really puzzled and can't understand how something so potentially significant seems to have been missed here.

There is, in all probability, no significance whatsoever attaching to these images. The most likely cause of Trevor Deely's disappearance is drowning - whether by accident or design and without the involvement of any third party.

jenny smith

There is, in all probability, no significance whatsoever attaching to these images. The most likely cause of Trevor Deely's disappearance is drowning - whether by accident or design and without the involvement of any third party.

I agree. If TD felt threatened when leaving the bank why would he delay to zip up his jacket and then again to put up the umbrella? TD seems to stumble in the last shot. Did he have something other than tea in the bank and then fall in the canal?

I'm really puzzled and can't understand how something so potentially significant seems to have been missed here.

No one knows it was missed. Just because the gardai did not publish it does not mean it is importand. They may have reasons

Ash.J.Williams

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I find it baffling that the guards couldn't put together a video like this guy's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pdAHRxfj4

He's used Google Street View to show the front of the building where the CCTV footage was taken, and followed the path on Google Maps. Was it really beyond the capabilities of the Gardaí to put together something like this??

I watched this yesterday and found it informative. i particularly liked how he stuck to what could see in front of him. It does look very suspicious when you see the guys hanging around outside. Do we know the significance of the email he went to check ??? They don't look like homeless people, and have a menacing look about them. I have no idea what happened. I hope his family find out soon.

Messengers

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

I watched this yesterday and found it informative. i particularly liked how he stuck to what could see in front of him. It does look very suspicious when you see the guys hanging around outside. Do we know the significance of the email he went to check ??? They don't look like homeless people, and have a menacing look about them. I have no idea what happened. I hope his family find out soon.

What guys ? Two of them were work mates. Only one man in unaccounted for.

Claonadh1

franciscurragh wrote: »

All of the questions raised here have been covered on the other thread including the second person at the gate, the third person at the gate etc, Leroy's videos etc.

Of course, there are over 3000 posts in that thread and it's easier to start a new one...

Just to clarify, this post was started after the second Trevor Deely thread had been locked in After Hours. So when the OP was posted, no thread was open.

The AH thread was subsequently re-opened and has by now addressed the points raised in my OP.

PeterTheNinth

chicorytip wrote: »

There is, in all probability, no significance whatsoever attaching to these images. The most likely cause of Trevor Deely's disappearance is drowning - whether by accident or design and without the involvement of any third party.

I would have thought that too, but one of the most important points that this guy makes is about the mobile phone. The phone was live for SEVEN DAYS after he went missing. If Trevor had fallen in to the Canal, then the phone would have stopped responding immediately.

Messengers

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

I would have thought that too, but one of the most important points that this guy makes is about the mobile phone. The phone was live for SEVEN DAYS after he went missing. If Trevor had fallen in to the Canal, then the phone would have stopped responding immediately.

No it wasn't.

PeterTheNinth

Messengers wrote: »

No it wasn't.

The sister was ringing it for seven days and leaving voicemails.

franciscurragh

Could a moderator please close this thread as all of these issues have been discussed for the past two weeks on the main Trevor Deely thread?

rawn

PeterTheNinth wrote:

The sister was ringing it for seven days and leaving voicemails.

She is unsure if it rang or not.

PeterTheNinth

rawn wrote: »

She is unsure if it rang or not.

Okay, well the guy on the video was speaking pretty definitively about that, but maybe he's wrong. He stated categorically that the phone MUST have been on for seven days for it to ring, and that after seven days the calls went straight to voicemail which he took as an indication that the battery had died.

franciscurragh

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

Okay, well the guy on the video was speaking pretty definitively about that, but maybe he's wrong. He stated categorically that the phone MUST have been on for seven days for it to ring, and that after seven days the calls went straight to voicemail which he took as an indication that the battery had died.

This thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057729470 has almost 4000 posts, is currently active and is up to date. There are a lot of mistakes on some of the videos that have been produced about this case.

D Trent

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0812/896866-trevor-deely/

"Gardaí investigating the disappearance of Trevor Deely, who went missing almost 17 years ago, are carrying out a search in south Dublin.

The 22-year-old Bank of Ireland employee from Naas in Co Kildare was last seen in the Baggot Street Bridge area walking home from a Christmas party in December 2000.

Detectives from Pearse Street Garda Station have never closed the file on Mr Deely and hope this development will lead to a breakthrough in the case.

Last December, officers began a cold case review which included reviewing evidence gathered and looked at CCTV footage again.

Today a search will take place in south Dublin.

Mr Deely was last seen walking down Haddington Road, close to Baggot Street Bridge, in the early hours of 8 December 2000.

Numerous appeals for information over the years failed to establish what happened to him.

The Deely family have been notified of this latest development."