Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb in world dropped on Afghanistan

MysticMonk

voz es wrote: »

I wonder why they spray bombs, not many who see them are going to be commenting on their colour.

So they don't balls up and load up the wrong object.

As far as i know most munitions are colour coded,armour piercing,high explosive etc etc. You don't want to fire HE at a tank

Depp

josip wrote: »

Sorry, I'm not being clear.
I think it's $300m they've spent on 15 bombs and the additional cost per bomb is $16m? Let's say $20m to include the cost of storage and delivery.

In my simplistic view of the world, their 1 big explosion so far has cost them $300m.
If they drop another one, then each explosion will have cost $150m.
The more they drop the closer they get to their additional unit cost of $20m per bomb.
Which is why I think 'they' become better value the more you drop.

suppose i can kinda get what you're saying when you put it that way alright!

Gatling

It was a fairly precision strike for such a large weapon going by the video,
Wonder if they will release a wider view to see how far the explosion went into the cave network

Carlos Orange

Deleted User wrote: »

So now that we hear there weren't mass casualties of civilians and it wasn't as big as Hiroshima and was actually pretty small overall, we start complaining about the cost per terrorist killed?

Were there supposed to be mass civilian casualties or something? One of the articles I read said local civilians were warned of the bombing ahead of time.

Elmer Blooker

Gatling wrote: »

It was a fairly precision strike for such a large weapon going by the video,
Wonder if they will release a wider view to see how far the explosion went into the cave network

Precision.
Anyone remember similar huge bombs called "daisy cutters" that were going to take out Bin Laden?
In the end it took an informer and a big fat reward to track him down to Pakistan.

Widdershins

Depp wrote: »

Also the reason this base was chosen is its one of the main manafacturing centres for roadside ieds used by is in iraq & afghanistan. Felt safe to stockpile resources/bombmaking experts there as to 99% of other attacks and the cave complex would have been nigh on impenetrable

It makes sense, imo.

OP how are you feeling or thinking in light of the latest information?

namloc1980

Supposed location of the bombing per Twitter. Matches pretty well to the video.

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psinno

psinno wrote: »

Were there supposed to be mass civilian casualties or something? One of the articles I read said local civilians were warned of the bombing ahead of time.

Go back to the first couple of pages of this thread. You'd swear those mountains were downtown Kabul.

jjbrien

Deleted User wrote: »

Go back to the first couple of pages of this thread. You'd swear those mountains were downtown Kabul.

You would swear it was here To be honest it was a wasted effort and ISIS did a subside attack in Kabul today.

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Precision.
Anyone remember similar huge bombs called "daisy cutters" that were going to take out Bin Laden.

Daisy cutters aren't huge mainly used to clear tress ,

But they got bin laden in the end didn't they

Ah well.

Didn't russia use precision weapons in Syria and managed to hit Iran instead

Atoms for Peace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk

The youtube comments section is always good for a laugh.

Autonomous Cowherd

Anyone wondering if I have fallen for the Eros of the mega bomb, uh no, read my earlier explanations of my response to it. No Easter conversions...

Elmer Blooker

Gatling wrote: »

Didn't russia use precision weapons in Syria and managed to hit Iran instead

According to US "officials" .... and the dutiful media loved it.

But they got bin laden in the end didn't they

yeah, all it cost was a suitcase stuffed with dollars, I wonder how much all those daisy cutters cost US taxpayers?

Mr.Micro

Widdershins wrote: »

It makes sense, imo.

OP how are you feeling or thinking in light of the latest information?

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

According to US "officials" .... and the dutiful media loved it.


yeah, all it cost was a suitcase stuffed with dollars, I wonder how much all those daisy cutters cost US taxpayers?

And they can't even look after their own poor and needy people. Let's try out this mega bomb and see what happens...

Depp

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

yeah, all it cost was a suitcase stuffed with dollars, I wonder how much all those daisy cutters cost US taxpayers?

It was actually a protracted surveillance operation which identified his personal courier from info gathered together from various interrogations, finding the courier, following him to bin ladens compound, then staking out the compound till confirmation of his presence there could be found. No-one grassed bin laden for a bag of cash. In all likelihood it cost far more than the 16 million pricetag of this bomb.

Depp

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Largest non-nuclear bomb in the world, but classified as a small nuke apparently

Not posting this to call out Digital Solitude but feel its important to clarify that all of these claims have proven to be gigantic exaggerations or just flat out lies.
Again not calling out anyone just the info, which is false. Outside of a mile from the blast other than a slight possibility of shattered glass or knocking stuff over the worst you can expect is hearing a loud bang and for any ear bleeding you would need to be well within a mile.

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

According to US "officials" .... and the dutiful media loved it.

Iranian media Reported it too but what would they know

Capt'n Midnight

ilkhanid wrote: »

The USA spends a fair bit of money on "heart-and-minds" activities.
"30 % (of American and international assistance) has been spent on projects related to governance and development and humanitarian assistance.
These projects include programs to strengthen the local justice system of courts and prisons, expand power generation and transmission, build roads and railways, provide basic education, literacy, and technical ,vocational education and ttraining that aims to deliver basic education to communities that the government cannot reach, and administer ..health services that aim to pride primary care and hospital services".

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/06/18/415353782/afghan-schools-is-the-success-story-exaggerated

You can't win hearts and minds by throwing money at a wall. If it drives up prices and doesn't trickle down the it may even be counter productive.

The U.S. has spent more than $100 billion on rebuilding in Afghanistan, and of that, $769 million has gone to the Afghan education system, which means the education funding has been less than 1 percent of the overall U.S. aid. All those numbers are dwarfed by the sums the U.S. military spent fighting the war in Afghanistan.

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/compass/articles/2015/6/17/john-sopko-sigar.html

What impact does it have in the minds of Afghans when the United States said it would build a health clinic but then the health clinic doesn’t materialize?

It leaves a bitter taste in their mouths. Particularly if the contractor who did the job is somehow connected with a local warlord or a local government official, which we find in many cases.

$113.1 Bn spent, education got less than 0.8%. Very little got to Clinics and Schools schools and even then lots of fraud.



https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/quarterlyreports/2017-01-30qr-section3-economic.pdf

As of December 19, 2016, Afghanistan’s Attorney General’s Offce (AGO) has
not acted on the 114 Kabul Bank-related cases currently referred to it. ... $987 million stolen
from Kabul Bank,
...
USAID had disbursed approximately $883 million for
education programs in Afghanistan, as of December 31, 2016
...
The World Bank reported that only about half of all registered schools
in Afghanistan have proper buildings, and only 55% of teachers me
...
An Independent Joint Anti-Corruption
Monitoring and Evaluation Committee
assessment found that despite some successes, EQUIP has failed to meet its overall
goals since it began in 2004. The program
suffers from poor planning, weak monitoring, and ineffective coordination among
implementers that has caused 30–40% of
funds to be misused, schools to be poorly
constructed, and students to be inadequately educated.

Luggnuts

Gatling wrote: »

Seriously epic weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5h2fjhKyQ

Do these things arouse you somehow?

Elmer Blooker

Luggnuts wrote: »

Do these things arouse you somehow?

Trump to Putin: ".... mine is bigger than yours! ..."

9or10

My single contribution is that I'm sickened by the name.

Even the fcukin BBC is using the acronym.

Luggnuts

At least they didn't use one of those heinous barrel-bombs that that monster Assad is accused of dropping.

Pugzilla

Didn't know Irish people became such pacifists

Depp

9or10 wrote: »

My single contribution is that I'm sickened by the name.

Even the fcukin BBC is using the acronym.

the acronym actually stands for Massive Ordnance Air Blast, the mother of all bombs thing is a nickname and not an official designation

9or10

Depp wrote: »

the acronym actually stands for Massive Ordnance Air Blast, the mother of all bombs thing is a nickname and not an official designation

Thanks. Then my work is done.

Dubh Linn

IS have now said that there are no casualties on their side, which imo is like saying the sky is purple.

PREG1967

Dubh Linn wrote: »

IS have now said that there are no casualties on their side, which imo is like saying the sky is purple.

the irish invented the car bomb, we called it buma
http://www.historyireland.com/20th-century-contemporary-history/car-bombs/

Dubh Linn

Yes but how can there be no IS casualties? Was the only casualty in this strike the ground and the sand and rocks?

Luggnuts

Dropping a $300 million bomb on a shack isn't going to change the trend that Afghan farmers are winning this war. The US should just get out and join the ignominious list of empires that tried to conquer Afghanistan and were defeated.

Depp

Luggnuts wrote: »

Dropping a $300 million* bomb on a shack* isn't going to change the trend that Afghan farmers are winning this war. The US should just get out and join the ignominious list of empires that tried to conquer Afghanistan and were defeated.

*16 million. *Cave network that housed a highly productive ied building location.