Attic window added resulting in loss of privacy

evolving_doors

andekwarhola wrote: »

OP sounds like he's going to run crying to the council.

If people are so paranoid about people seeing their garden, just move out to the countryside.

Sounds like there's a lot more unhelpful ballyraggers crying just cos the op posed a
question. Which turns out he has a reasonable grievance ... if it's a dormer.

I don't understand why moaners come on threads just to give out to people asking questions. I think it's inverted snowflake syndrome... ohhh look at me I can be Soooooo comfortable with any invasion of privacy and everyone else is sooo insecure these days.

Works both ways though with the window. Our neighbours cut the trees at the end of their garden... now we get views of bathrooms and bedrooms in the morning and night... and it ain't pretty

lawred2

Hang on - if this was a dormer window then planning permission would have been sought by the homeowner.

This means that you missed your chance OP to object.

You'll have to live with it now. Unless they didn't seek planning permission but then they'd have bigger problems that yourself.

mrcheez

Gebgbegb wrote: »

I don't understand why moaners come on threads just to give out to people asking questions. I think it's inverted snowflake syndrome... ohhh look at me I can be Soooooo comfortable with any invasion of privacy and everyone else is sooo insecure these days.

It seems to be forum-based. I've posted in many forums on boards, and most seem to be civil... this one seems to have a lot of people ready to jump down other's throats.

It's a bit like After Hours in that respect

mrcheez

lawred2 wrote: »

Hang on - if this was a dormer window then planning permission would have been sought by the homeowner.

This means that you missed your chance OP to object.

You'll have to live with it now.

Sure I didn't know it was going up until I saw it this morning :rolleyes:
(The house at the back is in another estate so not something I would normally pass on my daily commute)


It's actually still in the building stage, plus they don't appear to have any planning permission... but I'll double check that this eve

lawred2

mrcheez wrote: »

Sure I didn't know it was going up until I saw it this morning :rolleyes:

One requirement of a planning application is a public notice has to be erected detailing the works. For the purposes of inviting contributions/objections etc

emeldc

lawred2 wrote: »

Hang on - if this was a dormer window then planning permission would have been sought by the homeowner.

This means that you missed your chance OP to object.

You'll have to live with it now. Unless they didn't seek planning permission but then they'd have bigger problems that yourself.

So you've read the bit where the OP said it was a dormer window :rolleyes:

mrcheez

lawred2 wrote: »

One requirement of a planning application is a public notice has to be erected detailing the works. For the purposes of inviting contributions/objections etc

There was no indication (to the houses at the back) that any work was going to take place.

lawred2

mrcheez wrote: »

There was no indication (to the houses at the back) that any work was going to take place.

Well they are not under any obligation to knock on doors or send out fliers. They would have had to erect the planning notice.

This stuff can also be found online.

lawred2

emeldc wrote: »

So you've read the bit where the OP said it was a dormer window :rolleyes:

lol

yeah the 'slapping up' of notified, authorised and planned for dormer windows is a right plague

mrcheez

lawred2 wrote: »

Well they are not under any obligation to knock on doors or send out fliers. They would have had to erect the planning notice.

This stuff is also online.

aye and there's the issue... no planning application can be found for that property

lawred2

mrcheez wrote: »

aye and there's the issue... no planning application can be found for that property

then they could have bigger problems

Mr McBoatface

lawred2 wrote: »

One requirement of a planning application is a public notice has to be erected detailing the works. For the purposes of inviting contributions/objections etc

Which most people don't read until the work has started.

Very possible it was applied for and granted and went unnoticed. Permission could have been grant a couple years back with work only starting now.

mrcheez

I take it that the planning permission posting (if any) would still be visible at the front of the house while construction is taking place right?

freshpopcorn

mrcheez wrote: »

aye and there's the issue... no planning application can be found for that property

I don't know if it's legal or not but I know people I know take down their planning notice once the building works starts. So, if you walk around to the front of the house now it might be gone.
It should be online tough. (Address can be funny with planning notices at times)
A picture on this window would be great! Even something similar of the net.

evolving_doors

Mr McBoatface wrote: »

Which most people don't read until the work has started.

Very possible it was applied for and granted and went unnoticed. Permission could have been grant a couple years back with work only starting now.

Think the only way is to check with the council.

mrcheez

Weepsie wrote: »

They said, they guess it's a dormer window and gave a vague description of it. Not that I've any reason to not believe, a picture or an illustration of a similar window would really help.

It's "kinda" like this, but square and extending the roof out rather than the traditional dormer "block"

Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

I take it that the planning permission posting (if any) would still be visible at the front of the house while construction is taking place right?

No. It's removed after the 5 week observation period from the date of receipt by the council.

If they have no planning, you can report it in writing to the Planning enforcement section of your LA. They will act on it and ensure the home owner regularises the situation through the planning process or order its removal.

mrcheez

Aha... found the planning permission afterall

"loft conversion with ... 1 box dormer window to rear elevation"

Oh well that's that then... one would have thought the planning permission postings would be visible to the rear residents as well but I guess that's not how it works (it's actually a winding road that's well out of the way in order to pass by the house in question so not something the affected residents would normally pass by to see any planning permission notices)

Gumbo

mrcheez wrote: »

Aha... found the planning permission afterall

"loft conversion with ... 1 box dormer window to rear elevation"

Oh well that's that then... one would have thought the planning permission postings would be visible to the rear residents as well but I guess that's not how it works (it's actually a winding road that's well out of the way in order to pass by the house in question so not something the affected residents would normally pass by to see any planning permission notices)

There's only so much we can legislate for and in fairness only so much site notices you can put up on an urban site.

Mr McBoatface

mrcheez wrote: »

Aha... found the planning permission afterall

"loft conversion with ... 1 box dormer window to rear elevation"

Oh well that's that then... one would have thought the planning permission postings would be visible to the rear residents as well but I guess that's not how it works (it's actually a winding road that's well out of the way in order to pass by the house in question so not something the affected residents would normally pass by to see any planning permission notices)

You'd probably need binoculars to read it on the rear and would be invading thier privacy :-)

mrcheez

I'll install a nice big picture of goatse facing out from the back of my house and it might encourage them to install frosted glass

Cloudio9

mrcheez wrote: »

Aha... found the planning permission afterall

"loft conversion with ... 1 box dormer window to rear elevation"

Oh well that's that then... one would have thought the planning permission postings would be visible to the rear residents as well but I guess that's not how it works (it's actually a winding road that's well out of the way in order to pass by the house in question so not something the affected residents would normally pass by to see any planning permission notices)

In the list of conditions in the planning approval document are there any conditions relating to the window ?

I've read quite a few domestic planning rulings which require specific types of windows in order to protect the privacy of neighbours.

mrcheez

Cloudio9 wrote: »

In the list of conditions in the planning approval document are there any conditions relating to the window ?

I've read quite a few domestic planning rulings which require specific types of windows in order to protect the privacy of neighbours.

Nope. No mention of the type of window or materials thereof.

lawred2

mrcheez wrote: »

I'll install a nice big picture of goatse facing out from the back of my house and it might encourage them to install frosted glass

lol

Mr McBoatface

Cloudio9 wrote: »

In the list of conditions in the planning approval document are there any conditions relating to the window ?

I've read quite a few domestic planning rulings which require specific types of windows in order to protect the privacy of neighbours.

Let it go Mrcheez has his answer and plan :-)

@ Mrcheez , it sets a persistent should you ever decide to go down the extension route. Take the positive out of it..... hopefully some eyecandy will occupy the room :-)

Sleeper12

ThisRegard wrote:

Is planning not required if the window is within a certain distance of the houses behind, or something like that?

Not for a regular attic window. No if op was talking about a dormer window then planning is needed. Velux windows flat on the roof are fine

mrcheez

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Not for a regular attic window. No if op was talking about a dormer window then planning is needed. Velux windows flat on the roof are fine

I was talking about a dormer window, just didn't know it was called that. Learn something new... too bad my attic is too small to get my own :mad:

Mr McBoatface

mrcheez wrote: »

I was talking about a dormer window, just didn't know it was called that. Learn something new... too bad my attic is too small to get my own :mad:

In my attic at the moment, I haven't been up here in a year, it's actually already converted but no dormer window, just a velux on the rear. I think I'll get double the space with a dormer window to the side.....


Cheers Mrcheez you got me thinking now

Calahonda52

60 posts in less than 3 hours.....

Op: now that we have established the "facts" go into g-maps and

1. expand detail to max in satellite view that allows you see both properties
2. select the position of the new window with the cursor, left click
3. right click on the mouse and select measure distance
4. move cursor to your window
5. left click and report back with the measurement

Mr McBoatface

Calahonda52 wrote: »

60 posts in less than 3 hours.....

Op: now that we have established the "facts" go into g-maps and

1. expand detail to max in satellite view that allows you see both properties
2. select the position of the new window with the cursor
3. right click on the mouse and select measure distance
4. Left click on the new window, move cursor to your window
5. left click and report back with the measurement

Permission granted already. Case closed