Mouse Replacement

Lu Tze

Howdy,

My trusty original perixx MX2000 scroll wheel broke on Thursday. While it didn't cost much 4-5 years ago, it was perfectly suited to me, its a big mouse for big hands! I actually bought two so that i have been using the same mouse at home and in work, which was convenient.It was superseded by several models since (of the same name), but the build quality etc. is apparently pretty bad going by reviews. Pic below



In essence i am looking for something as similar as possible as a replacement. In essence the things would like is a big right handed mouse, being able to change DPI on the fly, and a thumbrest/button.

I see the Logitech MX Master has most of this (except the dpi switch) this, but is quite pricey.



If anybody has any cheaper suggestions that would be great! Doesnt need to be wireless or anything fancy.

Mickeroo

Logitech G502 be a good option maybe?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Programmable/dp/B019DVCW3E

Lu Tze

Mickeroo wrote: »

Logitech G502 be a good option maybe?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Logitech-Proteus-Spectrum-Tunable-Programmable/dp/B019DVCW3E

Cheers, ill book mark that i reckon - its a bit gamey looking for the office, but could use it at home and bring the other one into the office. Has any body used one?

As it happens, I've got it back working.

I'm not too familiar with the terminology for mouse internals so bear with me but in essence one of the axles snapped of the mouse wheel, the one which goes through the unit registering the scrolling motion. I superglued it back on using a tweezers to hold it as best i could perpendicular to the wheel. Put it all back together and its fine for now.

Not sure how long the superglue will hold it (especially as it likely isnt perfectly perpendicular), so no doubt i will be back here again, so your suggestion, and any others that come in are still most welcome!

K.O.Kiki

Logitech M705 - no DPI switch (not sure why you'd need it in the office tbh) but otherwise a near perfect mouse.

Been using one since last June and reckon the AA battery will last well into 2018.

G602 or M570 trackball might suit you too.

Glebee

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057215342

There is a thread here in PC gaming, it might not something you need in it, maybe not if its for work..

Skerries

Lu Tze wrote: »

Cheers, ill book mark that i reckon - its a bit gamey looking for the office, but could use it at home and bring the other one into the office. Has any body used one?

I use the G502 for gaming and it is really great for that with dpi settings and a free rolling scroll wheel button but it may be a bit small for you if you like a bigger mouse as it is narrower than my old G500 which I use in work but I have gotten used to it

Gehad_JoyRider

I use this one they were going on amazon during the summer for £20.00 I bought 4 of them
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826247003

If you can find one there really really good and I've hands like shovels.

Lu Tze

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Logitech M705 - no DPI switch (not sure why you'd need it in the office tbh) but otherwise a near perfect mouse.

Been using one since last June and reckon the AA battery will last well into 2018.

G602 or M570 trackball might suit you too.

Just on the DPI switch, for me its nothing to do with gaming, I do a fair bit of GIS and some CAD and for the most part at a large scale its good to have a high ratio of pointer movement to mouse movements but this is intermingled with detailed that need more precision, and hence higher mouse to pointer movement ratio if that makes any sense!

Lu Tze

Gehad_JoyRider wrote: »

I use this one they were going on amazon during the summer for £20.00 I bought 4 of them
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826247003

If you can find one there really really good and I've hands like shovels.

That actually looks more or less the same shape as the one I have cheers! Yeah shovel hands unfortunately mean a clutch type grip on smaller mice (mouses?) for me, which enevitably end in pain and /or cramp!

Does it have a DPI switch?

Edit: Logitech seem to be the go to based on the recommendations so far. Don't suppose pcworld or other would have them out on show to try for size etc.?

Gehad_JoyRider

Lu Tze wrote: »

That actually looks more or less the same shape as the one I have cheers! Yeah shovel hands unfortunately mean a clutch type grip on smaller mice (mouses?) for me, which enevitably end in pain and /or cramp!

Does it have a DPI switch?

Edit: Logitech seem to be the go to based on the recommendations so far. Don't suppose pcworld or other would have them out on show to try for size etc.?

They do also have a storage system on the mouse with 3profiles. Which you can use on yhe fly.

And softwear to have macros.

Its a great mouse there now in with a new company but you might be able to find one some where

Serephucus

I'm using the G602 and really like it, for what that's worth.

Really liking all the buttons, and as small as they are, they're all easily identifiable.

K.O.Kiki

Lu Tze wrote: »

That actually looks more or less the same shape as the one I have cheers! Yeah shovel hands unfortunately mean a clutch type grip on smaller mice (mouses?) for me, which enevitably end in pain and /or cramp!

Does it have a DPI switch?

Edit: Logitech seem to be the go to based on the recommendations so far. Don't suppose pcworld or other would have them out on show to try for size etc.?

AFAIK most stores don't have any stock of the cool mice, so order from Amazon & send it back if it ends up being the wrong shape.

I can also recommend to watch some reviews by RocketJumpNinja, he goes into a lot of detail explaining how to choose a mouse.

Dcully

If you want raw performance and precision the final mouse is superb, by far the best mouse ive used and ive had lots.

http://www.finalmouse.com/

Gehad_JoyRider

Theres also this which is quite a nice mouse
Good reviews.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B0046Y0Y20/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1491822809&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=mionix&dpPl=1&dpID=41w53KYk5iL&ref=plSrch

farna_boy

I have a Mionix Naos 5000 mouse that looks very similar to that. The 5000 is an old version but it's replacement the 7000 looks identical. Might be worth a go.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mionix-Naos-7000-Mouse-DVD/dp/B00HGKQ6VY/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1491832258&sr=1-1&keywords=Mionix+Naos+7000

Hal1

How much are you willing to spend? Lovely razor mouse here 16,000 dpi: https://www.razerzone.com/eu-en/store/razer-mamba

16,000 DPI 5G laser sensor
Up to 210 inches per second / 50 G acceleration
Adjustable Click Force Technology
Dual gaming grade wired/wireless technology
1,000 Hz Ultrapolling / 1 ms response time
On-The-Fly Sensitivity Adjustment
Ergonomic right-handed design with textured rubber side grips
Chroma lighting with true 16.8 million customizable color options
Inter-device color synchronization
Nine independently programmable buttons with tilt-click scroll wheel
Charging dock
Razer Synapse enabled
2.1 m / 7 ft braided fiber USB charging cable
Approximate size: 128 mm / 5 in (Length) x 70 mm / 2.76 in (Width) x 42.5 mm / 1.67 in (Height)
Approximate weight: 125 g / 0.27 lbs
Battery life: Approximately 20 hrs (continuous gaming)

BloodBath

Hal1 wrote: »

How much are you willing to spend? Lovely razor mouse here 16,000 dpi: https://www.razerzone.com/eu-en/store/razer-mamba

Anything above 3000 is completely pointless and unusable. It's marketing babble past that.

I have the 4 presets on my mouse set to 400/800/1200/1600. The mouse goes up to 5600. I use 400 for most fps games and 1200 for windows.

Get yourself a good optical sensor mouse. You will likely not use above 1600 dpi ever.

K.O.Kiki

RocketJumpNinja just did a video on the Logitech G102/G203 (€33-37), says they're 99% as good as the G Pro (€60+)

Lu Tze

Well, baggage handlers across 4 flights in two days managed to re-break the scroll wheel on this, so think I will be looking again!

I'll check out the suggestions above - and if anybody has anymore they would be very much appreciated.

K.O.Kiki

Maybe get a clamshell case along with whatever you order?

Lu Tze

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Maybe get a clamshell case along with whatever you order?

It was in a rigid suitcase, didn't save it though! The repair was never going to be as strong as the original - I just shouldn't have brought it with me.

SterlingArcher

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00FNKMVUO/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1499685927&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=414i95KWI4L&ref=plSrch#

Got gifted one of these.

Great price considering the quality here.

Comfortable, Nice feel to it. Doesn't feel cheap at all. The software is solid. all keys can be remapped /changed to anything you wish even key combos . Great for sim gaming but also to work with. hardly have to use the keyboard thanks to all the handy extra keys on the mouse.

Can adjust colour scheme to anything you'd want if that kind of thing is your bag.

Lu Tze

SterlingArcher wrote: »

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00FNKMVUO/ref=mp_s_a_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1499685927&sr=8-10&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=gaming+mouse&dpPl=1&dpID=414i95KWI4L&ref=plSrch#

Got gifted one of these.

Great price considering the quality here.

Comfortable, Nice feel to it. Doesn't feel cheap at all. The software is solid. all keys can be remapped /changed to anything you wish even key combos . Great for sim gaming but also to work with. hardly have to use the keyboard thanks to all the handy extra keys on the mouse.

Can adjust colour scheme to anything you'd want if that kind of thing is your bag.

That's a whole load of buttons!

There's a Logitech g402 Hyperion on the amazon prime sale, for £31 which I think I will go for. I also placed a low bid on advert on a Logitech MX master as its nearby and I can collect. I don't normally low ball, but I don't want to pay more than for getting the new g402 off amazon. Reviews say its good for palm grip etc which would suit me, and looks sizeable enough for my large hands.

Anybody got a g402? Any comments on it?

Shapey Fiend

Been using a Zowie FK1 for a year or so. Seems good to me but a similar Razer Deathadder is my only other experience with premium mice.

Metric Tensor

Lu Tze wrote: »

Anybody got a g402? Any comments on it?

I have one for 3+ years and I love it. Don't really have any complaints with it.

The two buttons that stick up on the right that allow you to adjust the speed can sometimes be bumped by kids or people who wouldn't use computers often. So if you have a lot of "non-computery" people it might be worth going simpler.

It's perfect for me though and seems to be pretty bulletproof!

Edit: Actually not quite three years yet:

You purchased this item on 12 Sep 2014.

challengemaster

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Been using a Zowie FK1 for a year or so. Seems good to me but a similar Razer Deathadder is my only other experience with premium mice.

I've never owned any Razer gear, however...

I started gaming about 13 years ago. Mainly I was a UT2004 player and was heavily involved in the UT community (multiple server/IRC/Teamspeak admin, Clanbase Nations Cup competitor, etc).

My point is I've been exposed to plenty of people that have owned and used Razer gear. The amount of times they've had to replace their equipment due to quality or longevity issues is astonishing to me.

IMO Razer is only premium in the price you pay for it. It's not premium quality.

I've had the same Logitech MX518 since about 2005 or 2006. I actually remember buying it in Currys or PC world for IIRC about €70. It's been with me to god knows how many LANs, house moves, etc. It's also taken quite a bit of abuse along the way. Never once has it let me down. About the only thing that's changed is the rubbery coating fading after so much use.

Shapey Fiend

Razer definitely have a spotty track record for build quality. Logitech are bulletproof in that respect I'm not wild about their styling which is the entirely superficial reason I didn't go for one.

K.O.Kiki

Shapey Fiend wrote: »

Razer definitely have a spotty track record for build quality. Logitech are bulletproof in that respect I'm not wild about their styling which is the entirely superficial reason I didn't go for one.

The G203/Pro & G403/703 are very conservatively styled.

Lu Tze

Metric Tensor wrote: »

I have one for 3+ years and I love it. Don't really have any complaints with it.

The two buttons that stick up on the right that allow you to adjust the speed can sometimes be bumped by kids or people who wouldn't use computers often. So if you have a lot of "non-computery" people it might be worth going simpler.

It's perfect for me though and seems to be pretty bulletproof!

Edit: Actually not quite three years yet:

Cheers, yeah my current mouse has a DPI switch, and seeing as two of us use the computer its convenient for changing it to our preferences. No kids luckily, and the dog hasn't shown any interest in the computer yet so should be safe enough!

I ordered it anyway - my only concern is if i don't find the shape as comfortable as the old mouse, of which i have two, one in the office and one at home, so i never use anything else! I can always sell it on and try again - saw a lot of cheap ones on amazon which seem to be a similar shape to my old one, so can take a punt on one of them in that case.

Metric Tensor

It's going to be on a lightning deal later on today. If you are a prime member you'll get it cheaper.

Starts at 4:10pm

Lu Tze

Metric Tensor wrote: »

It's going to be on a lightning deal later on today. If you are a prime member you'll get it cheaper.

Starts at 4:10pm

I'll keep a look out, but think I got the same deal yesterday, £31, the normal price is £49.

Edit: just an FYI, I posted this in the thread in the bargain alerts forum

Lu Tze wrote: »

I signed up for the trial on the german website as i had used the uk one previously. Just out of curiosity i went back to something i was looking at ont he uk site and was able to get the prime deal!

Metric Tensor

£21.99 Lu Tze

Get it now!!!!!!

Metric Tensor

Cost me £48 when I bought it three years ago!

Lu Tze

Metric Tensor wrote: »

£21.99 Lu Tze

Get it now!!!!!!

Cheers, Done and Done!

challengemaster

Anyone using a G403 (not the 402), looks like Logitech toned down their spacecraft-like styling they went a bit wild with for a while. Seems to resemble the old mx518 a lot.

K.O.Kiki

challengemaster wrote: »

Anyone using a G403 (not the 402), looks like Logitech toned down their spacecraft-like styling they went a bit wild with for a while. Seems to resemble the old mx518 a lot.

I went from a G402 to a G403 Wireless.

The G403 is bloody amazing, the only slight downside is that it sports a measly 2 side buttons.

challengemaster

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

I went from a G402 to a G403 Wireless.

The G403 is bloody amazing, the only slight downside is that it sports a measly 2 side buttons.

Honestly I've never seen the need for more than 2, but I've never played WoW or Starcraft..

Metric Tensor

I count 5 on the side of my G402. I only ever use 2.

I use it every day and for 9 hours plus most weekdays and I had to look down to count how many buttons were on the side. Shows how much use I make of those extra three!

Lu Tze

Lu Tze wrote: »

Cheers, Done and Done!

Right, so i got the G402, and have a couple of weeks use with it now. Its very good (for what i use it for) however its still doesn't fit my hand as well as the old one, although this is likely because the old one is the only mouse i have really used for four odd years or so, as i had one for in the office and one for at home.

The only thing is that is it quite light, the old one had weights in it to give it a bit of heft, which i preferred.

I think given enough time it will eventually feel as natural as the old one.

I dont play FPS, but the "sniper" button or whatever its called is quite handy when i need more accuracy in drawings etc. just for a few seconds without having to changed the DPI back and forth.

Metric Tensor

I never thought of using it in CAD!

I'll try that out this afternoon!!!

challengemaster

I decided to order a G403... I'm in love. It's the perfect successor to a MX518.