Campaign to keep ibrahim halawa...

Atoms for Peace

.....in jail.

Barry Badrinath

Agreed

Little CuChulainn

How about just give him his trial?

2011

Life for Ibrahim Halawa must be a living hell.
Is this thread supposed to be amusing?

b_mac2

2011 wrote: »

Life for Ibrahim Halawa must be a living hell.
Is this thread supposed to be amusing?

Do you pity all terrorists or?

Fred Swanson

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Digital Solitude

What's an Ibrahim Halal and why the clickbait title

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Atoms for Peace wrote: »

.....in jail.

Was he Born Irish?

Atoms for Peace

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Was he Born Irish?

It's irrelevant, if you do the crime you should do the time regardless of nationality.

freshpopcorn

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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I'm here!

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Do People in Egypt give a give Damm about People of Ireland?

vicwatson

please helpThank YOU wrote: »

Was he Born Irish?

Yes he's an Irish citizen

Grayson

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Do People in Egypt give a give Damm about People of Ireland?

Ahh. Whataboutery.

They might give a fcuk if an egyptian was locked up here.

Arcade_Tryer

The lesson of this story is not to protest in a country where there is very little respect for human life.

pumpkin4life

You know, there are a lot of problems in Ireland that could detonate in a very nasty way in the next while:

Artificlally low interest rates and cheap credit.

Over leveraged Irish banks, highly vulnerable to French and German volatility.

A bunch of incompetent gobshìtes in government.

A generation of mental health issues from desperately unhappy people which will manifest themselves more in the next ten years.

A housing crisis with 100,000 homes in mortgage arrears.

Net emigration from Irish people as of April 2016, with the birth rate of native Irish below replacement levels.

A massively cumbersome public sector whose pension contributions are going to be a stupidly high expense in the next while.

Sometimes I wonder though. Do we actually deserve to not be thrown into this position? Do we actually deserve what's coming?

And the answer is, well, if you let a lad like Ibrahim Halawa back into your country after what he has done...

Esel

pumpkin4life wrote: »

And the answer is, well, if you let a lad like Ibrahim Halawa back into your country after what he has done...

What exactly has he done?

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Grayson wrote: »

Ahh. Whataboutery.

They might give a fcuk if an egyptian was locked up here.

I would say We have a few Egyptians in Prisons here in Ireland.

riffmongous

How any Irish person could be against giving anyone a timely and fair trial is beyond me

RayM

After Hours is becoming more like Stormfront by the day. There are some awful, awful people posting here.

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30 PEOPLE Have voted so Far and 24 of the 30 said keep him in prison.

Ulysses Gaze

RayM wrote: »

After Hours is becoming more like Stormfront by the day. There are some awful, awful people posting here.

You've not been on Stormfront much then, have you.....

The stuff discussed here, is nothing compared to the bile spewed forth under that bridge.

Dr Crayfish

I honestly don't give a sh*t. Did he live here for a while and was given an Irish passport? Am I supposed to care because of that? How many people are locked up in sh*tholes all over the world? I've enough to be getting on with.

Omackeral

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

It's irrelevant, if you do the crime you should do the time regardless of nationality.

That's all well and good but he doesn't even know what the time is,they won't give him a trial.

RayM

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Did he live here for a while and was given an Irish passport?

He was born here, grew up here. When he went to Egypt, he had to pay for a visa to enter the country. He's Irish.

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Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I honestly don't give a sh*t. Did he live here for a while and was given an Irish passport? Am I supposed to care because of that? How many people are locked up in sh*tholes all over the world? I've enough to be getting on with.

How Many Irish are in Jail Worldwide? What comes to mind when you think of Hell Is The Movie Midnight Express.

Grayson

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

I honestly don't give a sh*t. Did he live here for a while and was given an Irish passport? Am I supposed to care because of that? How many people are locked up in sh*tholes all over the world? I've enough to be getting on with.

The government is supposed to care and I'm ok with that.

there's a fcuk load of people on boards who make a huge issue out of the government caring. There have been huge threads about it and it pretty much all revolves around whether he should be considered Irish. Apparently it's very exclusive and they think they should have a say on who's Irish and who isn't.

Ulysses Gaze

Halawa's imprisonment is the Egyptian Government sending out a warning.

It's essentially saying, if you are a do gooder (or protester) and you come over to Egypt and start interfering in our affairs or protesting or backing "the wrong side", this is what is going to happen to you.

Is it fair? No. But that is what they are doing.

ThisRegard

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Do People in Egypt give a give Damm about People of Ireland?

If they were kids that fell in playgrounds then the Egyptians concern for our Irish children is Paramount to them.

Omackeral

Grayson wrote: »

there's a fcuk load of people on boards who make a huge issue out of the government caring. There have been huge threads about it and it pretty much all revolves around whether he should be considered Irish. Apparently it's very exclusive and they think they should have a say on who's Irish and who isn't.

The lad is Irish. He's obviously of Egyptian extraction but he's Irish. Lived here his whole life, has an Irish passport and, as someone else pointed out, needed a visa to go to Egypt. However, that doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you want abroad as we all know all too well. Having said that, the chap and everyone else who was charged deserve a trial and not some mass trial either. It's ridiculous. How long's it been? Again though, familiarise yourself with foreign countries before going to rock the boat.

neonsofa

Omackeral wrote: »

The lad is Irish. He's obviously of Egyptian extraction but he's Irish. Lived here his whole life, has an Irish passport and, as someone else pointed out, needed a visa to go to Egypt. However, that doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you want abroad as we all know all too well. Having said that, the chap and everyone else who was charged deserve a trial and not some mass trial either. It's ridiculous. How long's it been? Again though, familiarise yourself with foreign countries before going to rock the boat.

I have to admit, I haven't read the whole story, only heard the carry on about his trial being postponed. Regardless of what happened he deserves a trial. Could someone give a brief outline of what exactly happened? I know I can Google it but it'd be handier to just get a brief summary from someone who knows the whole story and can simplify it thanks.

Fred Swanson

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Omackeral

neonsofa wrote: »

I have to admit, I haven't read the whole story, only heard the carry on about his trial being postponed. Regardless of what happened he deserves a trial. Could someone give a brief outline of what exactly happened? I know I can Google it but it'd be handier to just get a brief summary from someone who knows the whole story and can simplify it thanks.

There was civil unrest and basically a coup d'état in Egypt back in 2013 were leader Mohammed Morsi was ousted. Halawa was there on holiday (that's his story anyway) and was caught up in it, one way or the other. That's the crux of it. He was there protesting. He's been in jail ever since and has had his trial postponed something like 20 times.

neonsofa

Omackeral wrote: »

There was civil unrest and basically a coup d'état in Egypt back in 2013 were leader Mohammed Morsi was ousted. Halawa was there on holiday (that's his story anyway) and was caught up in it, one way or the other. That's the crux of it. He was there protesting. He's been in jail ever since and has had his trial postponed something like 20 times.

Thank you.
See this is the jist of what I heard but I thought I was missing something, it seemed a bit off, but then again I've never been to Egypt and don't understand the political context all that much.

Atoms for Peace

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

It's irrelevant, if you do the crime you should do the time regardless of nationality.

And what if he has to do the time without a trial?

Omackeral

Ibrahim Halawa's trial has been delayed for the 21st time in Cairo as the judge in the case agreed to consider his release on medical grounds.
This news is from today so he might be seeing a reprieve?

http://www.thejournal.ie/ibrahim-halawa-doctor-3325591-Apr2017/?utm_source=shortlink

Omackeral

neonsofa wrote: »

Thank you.
See this is the jist of what I heard but I thought I was missing something, it seemed a bit off, but then again I've never been to Egypt and don't understand the political context all that much.

I guess it is a bit off though because his dad is a very influential part of the Muslim Brotherhood and they are very bold boys.

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The Do-Gooders Care More About Egypt Than what is Happening in Ireland.

PraxisPete

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

You've not been on Stormfront much then, have you.....

The stuff discussed here, is nothing compared to the bile spewed forth under that bridge.

If 4/5ths of the users here thiink an Irish teenager should be in jail for attending a protest really believe that, it's worse than the ****e on Stormfront. It's idiocy only rivalled by Halawa for attending the protest in the first place.

degsie

Stupid thread. Many people, including his family here, are fearful for his well-being. Show a bit of humanity ffs.

neonsofa

Omackeral wrote: »

I guess it is a bit off though because his dad is a very influential part of the Muslim Brotherhood and they are very bold boys.

Ah ok. It's all very alien to me generally. I really should read up more on these things.

Dr Turk Turkelton

I've heard that prison conditions are so harsh in Egypt compared to here that the prisoners have to make do with a PlayStation3 and a standard def TV.
If this is true and they are violating his human rights like this he should be freed immediately.

Peregrine

Please refrain from posting politics in AH. Thanks.

AFAIK, there's already a thread about this fella in Politics Cafe.

Edit: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057591658