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Fair play to that judge

  • 04-04-2017 8:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,677 ✭✭✭✭


    I wouldn't be a fan of the compo culture which seems to be out of control in this country at present, and it saddens me to see vultures getting big money for such terrible injuries as banging their knee on a table.

    But this story struck a chord with me
    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/i-cant-ban-games-in-school-judge-tells-mother-of-girl-6-injured-during-game-of-chase-35591576.html

    There was another big refusal of compensation in court to a girl who a bus driver basically slagged off for dropping litter, but the linked story actually made me rejoice in the justice system.

    As a father of 3 small kids, I feel their school lives could have been irreparably damaged had this woman won her case. I'm sure a lot of insurance companies would have told their schools to tell their kids, 'no running allowed anyway'. And all because one single woman wanted a few quid for an injury that happened 7 yrs ago. People like her have the potential to affect hundreds of thousands of others..

    So for that, fair play judge, I'd like to shake your hand.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    But the Poor Child was Injured the Child is Paramount in Law?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Good to see common sense prevail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,629 ✭✭✭Hunchback


    But the Poor Child was Injured the Child is Paramount in Law?

    ....and it is in the interests of children that the judge found as he did


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Patww79 wrote: »
    Two stories that put a small bit of my faith back in things.

    Now if we can just reverse that restaurant claim.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Claims against schools and crèches for accident while kids are playing almost always fail. Kids will be kids, they will fall and they will get hurt and all the supervisors in the world won't prevent that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,506 ✭✭✭Doctor Nick


    Not read article but presume this is the skankhole. Precious little thing. Hopefully, as a result of the publicity, she'll be known as skankhole by everyone going forward. Fair play to the judge.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    As a primary teacher, I am thrilled to see this common sense prevail. It's a pity there aren't more judges who can see that children can't be bubble wrapped and need to run/jump/climb/get dirty.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Hunchback wrote: »
    ....and it is in the interests of children that the judge found as he did
    The Judge should not of done this to a very young child who was hurt Injured in the School as the law says a child is Paramount in Law so the Judge is totally wrong in Law.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    The Judge should not of done this to a very young child who was hurt Injured in the School as the law says a child is Paramount in Law so the Judge is totally wrong in Law.

    Did the child bring the case to court or the adult?
    Kids get hurt, no way to stop it.
    It's also needed so that they can learn and develop.. we are talking about a game called chase not Russian roulette.
    Fair play judge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    The Judge should not of done this to a very young child who was hurt Injured in the School as the law says a child is Paramount in Law so the Judge is totally wrong in Law.

    If you really believe that then you have no understanding of law: there is no law that states someone must automatically be responsible every time there is an accident.

    I got injured at school. Many times. As did most of us. Some of us even wound up in emergency wards. But we got up, we healed and we got on with it.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    This sort of bollocks will continue until Judges start making all legal costs liable by the losing party.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Venom wrote: »
    This sort of bollocks will continue until Judges start making all legal costs liable by the losing party.
    Who a Young Child?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Judge should not of done this to a very young child who was hurt Injured in the School as the law says a child is Paramount in Law so the Judge is totally wrong in Law.

    You are completely confusing different areas of law, the interests of the child are paramount in matters like custody and access disputes, but the do not trump the law of negligence in tort...albeit that the standard of care is higher. Nonetheless, it is not so great as to displace common sense, kids play and kids fall, the Courts almost always throw out these claims.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    You are completely confusing different areas of law, the interests of the child are paramount in matters like custody and access disputes, but the do not trump the law of negligence in tort...albeit that the standard of care is higher. Nonetheless, it is not so great as to displace common sense, kids play and kids fall, the Courts almost always throw out these claims.
    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:

    Because they are completely different areas of law, with very different issues. And it's pretty obvious why. Because in custody and access cases, the interests of the child should be crucial. But in tort, it shouldn't automatically mean there was negligence when there was none.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:

    If your child tripped over a sweeping brush in your kitchen and busted their arm or something, would you put in a personal injuries claim against your house insurance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:

    The child is not paramount in law - the child's interests are paramount. And in this case, the childs interests are not served by the handing of a large sum of money to the parent.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    The child is not paramount in law - the child's interests are paramount. And in this case, the childs interests are not served by the handing of a large sum of money to the parent.
    Yes the Injured Hurt Child should have been Compensated for his/hers Injuries as one law says the child is Paramount in Law but now the Hurt Injured Child is not why is that ?:confused:


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes the Injured Hurt Child should have been Compensated for his/hers Injuries as one law says the child is Paramount in Law but now the Hurt Injured Child is not why is that ?:confused:

    Because they are completely different areas in l...wait, are we going round in circles?

    Read Shatter on Family Law, and McMahon and Binchy on Tort. Otherwise it's just like saying "but one kid got stitches, one kid got a cast, why don't Doctors treat all kids the same".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Yes the Injured Hurt Child should have been Compensated for his/hers Injuries as one law says the child is Paramount in Law but now the Hurt Injured Child is not why is that ?:confused:

    The bit in bold is not correct, as has been explained. Furthermore, the answer to your question was posted in the post you replied to.
    ... in this case, the childs interests are not served by the handing of a large sum of money to the parent.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Because they are completely different areas in l...wait, are we going round in circles?

    Read Shatter on Family Law, and McMahon and Binchy on Tort. Otherwise it's just like saying "but one kid got stitches, one kid got a cast, why don't Doctors treat all kids the same".
    In my Opinion the Judge did not give the Injured/Hurt Child Compensation as The Judge is appoint by the government who own the schools that is why the child was not Paramount in law .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    In my Opinion the Judge did not give the Injured/Hurt Child Compensation as The Judge is appoint by the government who own the schools that is why the child was not Paramount in law .

    There is a Conspiracy Theories forum on Boards. You should feel right at home there.

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    In my Opinion the Judge did not give the Injured/Hurt Child Compensation as The Judge is appoint by the government who own the schools that is why the child was not Paramount in law .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    So Day one child in Family law court the child is Paramount. So Day two child civil court child is not Paramount and gets hurt/Injured in a Government School this case stinks .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭cursai


    belch!!!! paramount in laaaawwwww!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Jaysus, the mother was trying fair hard to get money for nothing.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    My heart goes out to the Hurt/Injured Child and his mother . The Judges will have there big brandy steaks Tonite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,036 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    But the Poor Child was Injured the Child is Paramount in Law?
    The Judge should not of done this to a very young child who was hurt Injured in the School as the law says a child is Paramount in Law so the Judge is totally wrong in Law.
    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:
    Yes the Injured Hurt Child should have been Compensated for his/hers Injuries as one law says the child is Paramount in Law but now the Hurt Injured Child is not why is that ?:confused:
    In my Opinion the Judge did not give the Injured/Hurt Child Compensation as The Judge is appoint by the government who own the schools that is why the child was not Paramount in law .
    So Day one child in Family law court the child is Paramount. So Day two child civil court child is not Paramount and gets hurt/Injured in a Government School this case stinks .

    Just because you keep repeating something doesn't make it true.

    I think you need a new argument!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    them Judges will be out foxhunting in weekend blowing their Trumpets .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    My heart goes out to the Hurt/Injured Child and his mother . The Judges will have there big brandy steaks Tonite.

    Hold on. You do realise that the child in question was the woman's daughter, not her son? A name like Veronika might have given it away.

    Did you even read the article, actually?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Noveight wrote: »
    Hold on. You do realise that the child in question was the woman's daughter, not her son? A name like Veronika might have given it away.

    Did you even read the article, actually?
    Type error:cool:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    So when your child him/her falls in the school yard and gets brain damage guess what this Judge will send you and your brain damage child packing so that is right?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    So when your child him/her falls in the school yard and gets brain damage guess what this Judge will send you and your brain damage child packing so that is right?

    Who would be at fault in that scenario?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Esel wrote: »
    Who would be at fault in that scenario?
    So your Child is the school playground sum other child pushes your child and your child hits her/his head of the ground. resulting in your child having brain damage and you and your child are up in front of this Judge/Lord and he tells you and your brain damage child will not get a cent today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    So your Child is the school playground sum other child pushes your child and your child hits her/his head of the ground. resulting in your child having brain damage and you and your child are up in front of this Judge/Lord and he tells you and your brain damage child will not get a cent today.

    Sounds like it's not only the child that has brain damage :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    So your Child is the school playground sum other child pushes your child and your child hits her/his head of the ground. resulting in your child having brain damage and you and your child are up in front of this Judge/Lord and he tells you and your brain damage child will not get a cent today.

    Child child child, childy mc child face.

    Your arguments are outlandish.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Child child child, childy mc child face.

    Your arguments are outlandish.
    So are you tell me no Child has never been pushed by other child in school play yard?. Hit his/her head off the ground/wall received brain damage Injury?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,074 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    So are you tell me no Child has never been pushed by other child in school play yard?. Hit his/her head off the ground/wall received brain damage Injury?.

    If I get brain damage from repeatedly banging my head off the wall, can I successfully sue you?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Child child child, childy mc child face.

    Your arguments are outlandish.

    That's because he's trolling you. Look at all the compensation claim threads. He does the same in each. No idea why though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭please helpThank YOU


    Mother and her child should appeal her case to the higher courts for Justice. for Injured/hurt child .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,691 ✭✭✭4ensic15


    So in one court the child is Paramount in law . and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:

    The child in school is in the same position as a child getting injured while on an outing with the parents to the seaside or some other venue or falling in their garden. Who would the child sue if she had fallen in her garden?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    and when the young child gets hurt Injured he/she is not Paramount why is that?:confused:

    Because Paramount is a major Hollywood film studio...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,652 ✭✭✭Trekker09


    Mother and her child should appeal her case to the higher courts for Justice. for Injured/hurt child .
    The blame lays squarely on the mothers shoulders for not wrapping her child in enough cotton wool.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Mother and her child should appeal her case to the higher courts for Justice. for Injured/hurt child .

    They never even said what the "injury" was. As it's a girl we're talking about I suspect she was wearing a skirt and probably scraped her knee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    They never even said what the "injury" was. As it's a girl we're talking about I suspect she was wearing a skirt and probably scraped her knee.

    Broken arm I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    They never even said what the "injury" was. As it's a girl we're talking about I suspect she was wearing a skirt and probably scraped her knee.

    It clearly says in the O.P.'s link to the news item that she broke her arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    So Day one child in Family law court the child is Paramount. So Day two child civil court child is not Paramount and gets hurt/Injured in a Government School this case stinks .

    Say if you have taken your child out to play in the park and there are other parents there who you know and they are with their children who your child is good friends with.
    While you are chatting and watching the children play the children start running a little, all having a great time together, maybe playing chasing, your child falls, other children fall on your child and unfortunately your child ends up with a broken arm.
    Who do you think is at fault and who do think should be sued?


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