Compensation Culture to a new level

Caliden

There's something rotten with the current judges in this country.


Rewarding clumsiness and stupidity is a slippery slope.

Cantona's Collars

keano_afc wrote: »

Takes a special kind of person to think "oh thats a clayum" when something like this happens.

I'm over 6ft, I've walloped my knees of many a table leg and for a few seconds it hurts like crazy. To give €20k for this, wow.

They should cut the legs off the tables,you could claim for hurting yourself when sitting on the floor.
She should have been told to feck off out of the court.

166man

osarusan wrote: »

I actually think that is a good idea.

Agreed, I was only jokin' with yer man


A thread to put all of them together would make sense alright.

The_Kew_Tour

Scary and will only get worse. I reckon you seen plenty of people light up when they read this

Winterlong

166man wrote: »

Agreed, I was only jokin' with yer man


A thread to put all of them together would make sense alright.

Could think of a few good titles for that thread.

"Crazy claims that made you cringe/cry".

Deise Vu

I handle claims at work and I'm always abusing the underwriters about the fact that they are only encouraging ever more spurious claims by refusing to take on the chancers. They tell me that even the most ridiculous claims will incur legal, medical and 'expert' costs and they are better off settling. Even the most minor of tips now attracts a 'provision' of €15K when renewal terms are discussed.

Then I read this stuff and I can understand why they don't want to go to court.

topper75

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

it was a "trap"

And the innocent lady walked right into it. They got her, and they got her good.

Stroke Politics

€2k extra plus the costs for a day in the high court for barristers on both sides. Any idea how much costs will be? Probably more than the award, and then the solicitors have to be paid as well. The wigs are laughing at us all the way to their holiday homes in Roundstone....

Zaph

She saw a "specialist in muscle spasm". Now last time I checked, the part of the knee you'd smack against a table leg is basically all bone. What muscles exactly were spasming, and how the fcuk did they get into her knee cap?

Kivaro

riffmongous wrote: »

Could we not get like a megathread for all these compo posts? I really couldn't care less anymore

No friggin' way.
If this megathread is created, then you are making it too easy for the ambulance chasing solicitors to gather more 'clients' for their lawsuits.

I posted yesterday on how an unusually high number of spurious claims are clustered around a small number of towns, where certain legal firms are based.
Source: Irish Independent.

Q: What's the difference between a box jellyfish and a solicitor?
A: One's a spineless, poisonous blob. The other is a form of sea life.

Samuel T. Cogley

Kivaro wrote: »

No friggin' way.
If this megathread is created, then you are making it too easy for the ambulance chasing solicitors to gather more 'clients' for their lawsuits.

I posted yesterday on how an unusually high number of spurious claims are clustered around a small number of towns, where certain legal firms are based.
Source: Irish Independent.

Q: What's the difference between a box jellyfish and a solicitor?
A: One's a spineless, poisonous blob. The other is a form of sea life.

So these absolute cnuts, who you hate, who are spinless, amoral asshats, are the ones who should be deciding if your case has merit?

Sounds like a great system...

ScumLord

As a tall person the secret support structures of tables are the bane of my life. Nearly every time I go to a restaurant I dump my knee on some protruding piece of death wood. I've been dealing with my booboos all on my lonesome, like a chump. One time the pain lasted nearly 10 seconds, and I had to apply my own first aid on site.

If only I'd known I could get €20,000! twenty ****ing thousand!! I'd be bumping into all kinds of things, it's like a long term injury without all the injury stuff.

biko

I wonder will she be welcome back to the establishment again, or any other place around once they hear about her "accident".

Boom_Bap

Zaph wrote: »

She saw a "specialist in muscle spasm". Now last time I checked, the part of the knee you'd smack against a table leg is basically all bone. What muscles exactly were spasming, and how the fcuk did they get into her knee cap?

There is a tendon/nmuscle yoke that goes accross the top of your kneecap. I strained mine recently and it is f*cking agony. No compo though :mad:

Zaph

Boom_Bap wrote: »

There is a tendon/nmuscle yoke that goes accross the top of your kneecap. I strained mine recently and it is f*cking agony. No compo though :mad:

Yes there is, I ruptured mine many years ago and it's not pleasant at all. However it is the patellar tendon, not a muscle that's going to spasm. There were some amount of chancers involved in that case.

Kivaro

biko wrote: »

I wonder will she be welcome back to the establishment again, or any other place around once they hear about her "accident".

There's only one answer to it: Remove the legs from all restaurant tables in Ireland.
In fact, let the serving staff forego the actual legless table and just put our food on the floor. And for heaven's sake, don't give us knifes and forks to stab ourselves with.

ScumLord

Kivaro wrote: »

There's only one answer to it: Remove the legs from all restaurant tables in Ireland.
In fact, let the serving staff forego the actual legless table and just put our food on the floor. And for heaven's sake, don't give us knifes and forks to stab ourselves with.

The Romans had the right idea, lie on the floor and get your slaves to put food into your mouth. Clearly we need to bring back slavery. Bags not being the slave.

Boom_Bap

That's the one....I think spasms in this case is strained.

Isn't there so much more going on behind this stuff than what is told by the media? The famous case people refer to is the McDonald's coffee case, but when you actually read into it, it's shocking the injuries that woman received and the level of vitriol & anger that was thrust on her, a lot of which, as it turns out, was actually perpetrated by McDonald's themselves.

Kivaro

Caliden wrote: »

There's something rotten with the current judges in this country.


Rewarding clumsiness and stupidity is a slippery slope.

And I'm gonna fall on this slippery slope and sue you.

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't there so much more going on behind this stuff than what is told by the media? The famous case people refer to is the McDonald's coffee case, but when you actually read into it, it's shocking the injuries that woman received and the level of vitriol & anger that was thrust on her, a lot of which, as it turns out, was actually perpetrated by McDonald's themselves.

That's possible, that McDonald's case was surprising once you hear the details, but I fail to see how you could do that much damage shuffling your chair into the table.

Cee-Jay-Cee

Over the last few years I have read with disbelief some of the ridiculous claims being taken by people for the most trivial matters but this beats them all by a long shot and the judge has effectively issued a decree for anyone who remotely bumps into something to sue for damages.

I guess the judge can be excused for their ridiculous awards in such ridiculous claims as they have zero grasp on real life and live in a pampered and protected world however the claimant has no excuse, who the fúck goes for an xray after banging their knee and then decides that their clumsiness is someone elses fault and sues, gets awarded €18,000 in the Circuit Court but thinks that's not enough and appeals it to a higher court!! I hope every cent of that money brings her rotten luck as she deserves it, the greedy b***h!

Samuel T. Cogley

Deleted User wrote: »

Isn't there so much more going on behind this stuff than what is told by the media? The famous case people refer to is the McDonald's coffee case, but when you actually read into it, it's shocking the injuries that woman received and the level of vitriol & anger that was thrust on her, a lot of which, as it turns out, was actually perpetrated by McDonald's themselves.

Yes there is. There is a rule in negligence called the egg shell skull rule aka you take the victim as you find them. This case is a textbook example of negligence. The injury and then quantum are what needs to be proven, if it is the award follows automatically.

In this case fat woman, exisiting bad knees (I assume), bangs knee, exisitng condition of fatty means she gets a bad injury, quantum set for injury. No judges on acid, no conspiracy, etc. etc. but that would make a **** story and worse thread.

Now there could absolutely be a spirious medical report here somewhere, but you don't hear people misquoting Shakespeare "First kill all the doctors!"

There's a solution to all of this and it's adopt the New Zealand model, but people would **** themsleves.

Zaph

Kivaro wrote: »

There's only one answer to it: Remove the legs from all restaurant tables in Ireland.

You could remove the legs of the patrons instead. Not going to be popular, and could be quite messy, but at least nobody would have any knees to bang.

oneilla

How do these cases work? I bang my knee, cry wolf to the manager, take pictures of where I banged the knee, go to a solicitor and then tell them about the terrible ordeal? I'm really really curious

Nermal

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Yes there is. There is a rule in negligence called the egg shell skull rule aka you take the victim as you find them. This case is a textbook example of negligence. The injury and then quantum are what needs to be proven, if it is the award follows automatically.

Unless this restaurant decorated the table legs with spikes before obscuring them with a tablecloth, negligence wasn't proven really, was it?

It's blindingly obvious that tables are supported by legs, so one should take care to avoid them when sitting. If you don't, the consequences are your own damn fault, regardless of whether your knees are made of crystal.

suicide_circus

The legal profession are as always the real winners here. Exploiting the greed of the grubby proletariat and lumping the rest of us with ever increasing insurance premiums. Scum.

Samuel T. Cogley

oneilla wrote: »

How do these cases work? I bang my knee, cry wolf to the manager, take pictures of where I banged the knee, go to a solicitor and then tell them about the terrible ordeal? I'm really really curious

Bang your knee die to the negligence of the defendant - this is key.
Go to a solicitor and flop down a few hundred for reports.
Solicitor will know 'sypathetic' engineers and docotors. Propbably only a doctor needed in this case.
Go through the PIAB (Which doesn't need the solicitor) get leave to go to court
Go to court
Probably lose and end up out of pocket.
Win and be lambasted on boards.ie.

At any point the claim might be settled short curcuiting the above.

soups05

i get a broken jaw from two scumbags and its worth nothing, she bangs her knee and gets 20k. just when i thought i could not feel worse ffs

Samuel T. Cogley

suicide_circus wrote: »

The legal profession are as always the real winners here. Exploiting the greed of the grubby proletariat and lumping the rest of us with ever increasing insurance premiums. Scum.

Similarily the real winners when you take out Sky TV are Sky, bastards.

Insurance companies are selling legal services, it's essentially what they do.