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bmwguy

Have a 2004 e39 up for sale asking 1450 Euro but obviously open to negotiate a bit on that after all asking prices are just asking prices!

Not sure if I want to drop asking price much lower as I am already getting the what's your last price merchants by text no interest in coming to look at car just texting me a lot and offering 500 odd. Bumper is broken a bit and would need to be replaced but good otherwise.

Is this all I will get for it? At anything over 1000 I would sell, less than that would look at keeping, I have space and covered storage for it. Don't know why I would keep it, apart from fact I like it!

Apologies for unusual thread title I hit an edit button by accident!

punisher5112

bmwguy wrote: »

Have a 2004 e39 up for sale asking 1450 Euro but obviously open to negotiate a bit on that after all asking prices are just asking prices!

Not sure if I want to drop asking price much lower as I am already getting the what's your last price merchants by text no interest in coming to look at car just texting me a lot and offering 500 odd.

Give us a link or some more details.

bmwguy

punisher5112 wrote: »

Give us a link or some more details.

Edited my post above made a mess of it first time! Can I post a link? Mods remove if it's not allowed, although I have put it on adverts too

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-525i-sport/15043536

punisher5112

Right photos are sh1t.... Sorry for been blunt. Turn phone sideways when taking a photo.

One main reason its a hard sell is year & the engine size is another also making it a tax nightmare as most want the chape tax.

punisher5112

Space out the spec and start with capitals. You have some good info just space it out a little.

Main points such as alloys, nct all good spec start off with a capital letter to highlight them a bit.

Jack the Stripper

It's a ropey looking pony, bad photos. Country flooded with them.

bmwguy

punisher5112 wrote: »

Right photos are sh1t.... Sorry for been blunt. Turn phone sideways when taking a photo.

One main reason its a hard sell is year & the engine size is another also making it a tax nightmare as most want the chape tax.

Yep not a huge market I do realise. Point taken about pics they were actually good on the phone but get resized going on website so I'll retake and repost. Done deal must suit landscape.

Eric Cartman

interior pics show nothing of the seats, especially the drivers side bolster, throw up some more interior shots that show the condition.

punisher5112

bmwguy wrote: »

Yep not a huge market I do realise. Point taken about pics they were actually good on the phone but get resized going on website so I'll retake and repost. Done deal must suit landscape.

With phone needs to be sideways or else photos come out as yours.

Its totally up to you on what your willing to accept.

Cars can sell in hours or take months.

bazz26

Borrow and use a proper camera to take good pictures, not a phone.

Gumbo

Probably worth more breaking.
The OEM wheels are good.
The android touch screen could be removed and sold alone.
Has the steering wheel been retrimmed?

The problem is that the E39 530i is better performance, for not much more running costs other than th motor tax. The E39 is still a well sought after car. Have you tried the Bmw forums?

begbysback

Any service history? 125mls for 04 is pretty low and good selling point

bmwguy

kceire wrote: »

Probably worth more breaking.
The OEM wheels are good.
The android touch screen could be removed and sold alone.
Has the steering wheel been retrimmed?

The problem is that the E39 530i is better performance, for not much more running costs other than th motor tax. The E39 is still a well sought after car. Have you tried the Bmw forums?

Yeah I retrimmed it last year it's a great job feels lovely. Pity can't have 2 cars in this country I'd be happy to keep it and use both this and my new one. But can't unfortunately due to insurance rules. And tax I suppose.

bmwguy

begbysback wrote: »

Any service history? 125mls for 04 is pretty low and good selling point

Yep, main dealer for its first few years then specialist indys.

Jack the Stripper

kceire wrote: »

Probably worth more breaking.
The OEM wheels are good.
The android touch screen could be removed and sold alone.
Has the steering wheel been retrimmed?

The problem is that the E39 530i is better performance, for not much more running costs other than th motor tax. The E39 is still a well sought after car. Have you tried the Bmw forums?

True you will get more for breaking but you are waiting a long time for it. It's not as if you will sell a load of parts instantly.

coolbeans

bmwguy wrote: »

begbysback wrote: »

Any service history? 125mls for 04 is pretty low and good selling point

Yep, main dealer for its first few years then specialist indys.

Why isn't it in the ad then?

bmwguy

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

True you will get more for breaking but you are waiting a long time for it. It's not as if you will sell a load of parts instantly.

Not interested in breaking too much hassle and not set up for it at all.

antodeco

bmwguy wrote: »

Yeah I retrimmed it last year it's a great job feels lovely. Pity can't have 2 cars in this country I'd be happy to keep it and use both this and my new one. But can't unfortunately due to insurance rules. And tax I suppose.

Course you can have 2 cars! I've 5 cars registered to myself. Just can't gain NCB on all. Most places will mirror your NCB.

bmwguy

antodeco wrote: »

Course you can have 2 cars! I've 5 cars registered to myself. Just can't gain NCB on all. Most places will mirror your NCB.

Tell me more.....how would I go about this. For the sake of a grand I'd nearly keep it if I could.

bmwguy

coolbeans wrote: »

Why isn't it in the ad then?

I'll get that added.

bear1

Delete the ad and start again afresh.

1) add all the details of the service history.
2) proper pictures and pictures of the damage.
3) show better interior shots.
4) binnacle photo
5) engine bay photo
6) boot pic and if you have it the original spare wheel kit
7) give bulletpoints in the add. Easier to read
8) show pics of the tyres, it shows if the car has been looked after.

Bigus

Lose the Bloomfield garage tax disc holder , or take out the 2 valid discs and picture them alongside 2 keys and handbooks/ service history. Or retake without garage name showing , unless its frank Keane or BMW main dealer .

millington

kceire wrote: »

Probably worth more breaking.
The OEM wheels are good.
The android touch screen could be removed and sold alone.
Has the steering wheel been retrimmed?

The problem is that the E39 530i is better performance, for not much more running costs other than th motor tax. The E39 is still a well sought after car. Have you tried the Bmw forums?

It used to be sought after. At the minute they're in that zone where they're too expensive to insure as a daily and can't be run as a classic. I have had my 530d Sport up for sale for a few weeks and very very little interest.

People love E39s til it comes to paying to run one.

antodeco

bmwguy wrote: »

Tell me more.....how would I go about this. For the sake of a grand I'd nearly keep it if I could.

I just rang the insurance company and wanted to add another car. They are put at limited mileage as they are "secondary"cars, but no issues with it. Its actually cheap enough to do, as you cant be driving all those cars at the same time!

H3llR4iser

I'm sorry, I know people in here fawn over E39s, but it's going to be extremely hard to sell, at 1450 - especially with a broken bumper; even if a second-hand part can be found, it's going to be a relatively expensive fix. The guy offering 500 is chancing his arm (and thinking about breaking up the car or flogging it to the likes of Albania), but he ain't too far away.

A 13 years old car with a 2.5 liters engine will cause most insurers to refuse a quote flat out, even with full NCB; Tax is over a grand. Unless you find somebody who's a wannabe "collector" with bottomless pockets, it's going to be very hard to sell it - yep, insurance/tax are going to destroy the classic car concept in a few years. I'll be in the exact same situation in a couple of years time with my 159, even if it's "only" 1.9, it's going to be 7-800ish quids or the scrapper

moonlighting

very few people are going to be able to insure a car like this. that's why its not selling. motor tax would be a close second. i just gave away my old merc to a relative for free. that's how bad things are now for what you could call modern classics.

unkel

Nice car, but your asking price is just unrealistic. You can get a newer model E60 for that kinda money (which still looks fresh, the E39 great car and all, now looks like the over 20 year old car that it is)

Re-do ad taking into account above suggestions, then ask €995 and take whatever you can get.

Stallingrad

Lots of good suggestions. Photos are only one part of the problem.

Have a look here as to how to photograph your car.

http://www.gmscars.co.uk/

goochy

sorry guys maybe its just me but these cars seem to have cult following , theres plenty of people who want the last of the real beemers rather than bangle type.

its just a matter of doing ad better and advertising in right place . classic section of donedeal maybe ?

maybe its just cork but I am noticing a lot of these cars being driven by petrolheads.

unkel

goochy wrote: »

sorry guys maybe its just me but these cars seem to have cult following , theres plenty of people who want the last of the real beemers rather than bangle type.

They have a following and rightly so, one of the best driving saloons ever made. I don't think the buyers will be lining up though. An enthusiast would be willing to pay a premium but would want a near mint car, which the OP doesn't have.

bmwguy

Funny enough an Irish guy living in Scotland was on to me today he will be back in a week and is interested. Which got me thinking.....

I had a look at revenue and there us an OMSP on these of 2396 which qualifies it for 752 Euro of a vrt refund.

I could theoretically let him take it for a few hundred and get a few quid on it. But not overly bothered now. Nice having the 2 of them on the drive.

I know these cars are in low demand in Ireland. I bought it for small money in 2013. They weren't shifting then either

Stallingrad

It's a sure sign that we are fooked as a species when you can barely give away what was once, and to many still is, one of the best saloons ever made.

moonlighting

its just an Irish thing really between the insurance and the motor tax crap. i almost cried giving away my old merc but insurance company wanted over a grand to insure it. rang around other insurance company and couldn't even get a quote.

goochy

I suppose it's not in the simis interest to campaign for lower tax for older cars but someone needs to. The road tax on some new diesel cars is far too low

.........

Asking way to much.
The photos are appalling, and also show very little of the car.
No way anyone is even going to bother reading that ad, never mind enquire about the car.

PurvesGrundy

I don't subscribe to the theories that this car is sale proof. It's just the pictures are poor and price is possibly a little high.

To sell a car like this is not impossible (there is a market for everything). It just needs to be priced right and effectively advertised.

New Goat

Would love an oul Beamer like that. If only I could afford to run it

However I think I may prefer it in black. I'd say you can sell it at the right price but may take a while.

bmwguy

New Goat wrote: »

Would love an oul Beamer like that. If only I could afford to run it

However I think I may prefer it in black. I'd say you can sell it at the right price but may take a while.

Offers in around 1000 starting to come in now. First here within an asses roar of that in cash can drive it away.

I had one in black before they look well. As regards the running costs I always looked at them as being in lieu of paying off finance.

I bought them outright so costs then were

Tax 1000
Fuel 2000
Insurance 1000
Maintenance 1000

5 grand a year. Happy enough with that. Your average new car will depreciate by that alone.

I am in same boat now with my e60 same figures.

punisher5112

What's the story the ad hasn't changed a bit.

Go in and edit it.

You have been given great advice on here so it would be a shame to just leave as is.

If I were looking I would pass right by as pictures are so bad and description extremely hard to read.

bmwguy

As a side note, I think I am going to remember my e39s more fondly than the e60 I just bought. Just a better drive overall. It's like a little puppy, you want to keep it but know you can't.

unkel

Have had both with the straight 6 petrol engine. E60 is more comfortable, more modern, bigger, safer, more mod cons and it still looks fresh. But there's no doubt. The E39 is by far the better driving car.

Stallingrad

unkel wrote: »

Have had both with the straight 6 petrol engine. E60 is more comfortable, more modern, bigger, safer, more mod cons and it still looks fresh. But there's no doubt. The E39 is by far the better driving car.

Interesting. E39 interior looks fresher than the E60, which has dated terribly IMO.

unkel

If you want a nice interior, buy an Audi

bmwguy

My insurance wording says I can drive other cars third party cover if they do not belong to me or an employer, are not leased or hired and once they are roadworthy. Never says a thing about other car being insured.

In the event of a family member buying it but not insuring it, would I be legally covered to drive the e39. I think I am, but will be checking out with company first. I realise it's against the spirit of driving other cars extension but I really don't care. Just looking for my legal standing.

I really would like the option to jump into one or the other. No problem keeping the e39 and fixing up bumper taxing it on and off for half a year rather than giving it away for buttons.

DakarVert

Yup, That's how all the young lads are driving around in 1990s Japs.

These are at that stage where it's too old to run daily but too modern to be classic... Give it a few years and values will pick up a bit.

unkel

No it's fronting. Don't do it.

Voodoomelon

unkel wrote: »

They have a following and rightly so, one of the best driving saloons ever made. I don't think the buyers will be lining up though. An enthusiast would be willing to pay a premium but would want a near mint car, which the OP doesn't have.

Very true, someone in the market for a really good E39 will be looking for a mint one and will pay for it. But I would have thought the OPs one is worth the asking seeing as its a sport model, just needs a good advert.

unkel

Voodoomelon wrote: »

Very true, someone in the market for a really good E39 will be looking for a mint one and will pay for it. But I would have thought the OPs one is worth the asking seeing as its a sport model, just needs a good advert.

Asking is now a more realistic €1,200. Was €1,495 yesterday.

PurvesGrundy

Stallingrad wrote: »

Interesting. E39 interior looks fresher than the E60, which has dated terribly IMO.

E39 probably drives better too. I've driven E60's and never got what the fuss was about.

bmwguy

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

E39 probably drives better too. I've driven E60's and never got what the fuss was about.

The e60 is a more impressive machine inside built much more for comfort. Nice drive too but nowhere near as sporty as the e39. But very few things are really. The only criticism I have of the e60 is its not an e39 but it's very impressive in other ways. Still generating a bit of interest in the e39 at around 1000. Loads of people messaging me about price and even though agreed in principle nobody coming to look.

punisher5112

bmwguy wrote: »

The e60 is a more impressive machine inside built much more for comfort. Nice drive too but nowhere near as sporty as the e39. But very few things are really. The only criticism I have of the e60 is its not an e39 but it's very impressive in other ways. Still generating a bit of interest in the e39 at around 1000. Loads of people messaging me about price and even though agreed in principle nobody coming to look.

Fix the ad and you will get genuine interest.

Space out the essay of description and much better pics.