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Things that are true that you dont believe

  • 16-03-2017 2:43am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭


    I was talking to a friend earlier and we somehow ended up in a debate about snowflakes..you no the old no two snowflakes are the same theory.
    His basic argument was its science.my argument was i fail to believe 2 identical snow flakes have never fallen before.how can science even prove this ..got me thinking what other things are suposedly true that you dont beleieve ???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,072 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    That we evolved from primates, i just cant believe that one, if we evolved from chimps why is there still chimps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    That someone could spend 7 years on a forum and only post 25 times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 159 ✭✭hank scorpio89


    That someone could spend 7 years on a forum and only post 25 times.

    Thanks for the warm welcome back 😉


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭longshanks


    Margarine


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,380 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    if we evolved from chimps why is there still chimps?

    We didn't evolve from chimps. Chimps and Humans both evolved from a common ancestor called Hominin


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Thanks for the warm welcome back 😉

    Hanks for the memories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,656 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    That everything is made up of tiny particles that have other tiny particles floating around them.

    Anytime I try to look at things in life, just plain old normal things, like making tea with a tea bag, or me typing this on a PC, looking at the characters on the screen, the person sitting opposite me, my hands etc......thats its all made up of atoms, molecules, protons, electrons etc etc.

    Baffling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    NIMAN wrote: »
    That everything is made up of tiny particles that have other tiny particles floating around them.

    Anytime I try to look at things in life, just plain old normal things, like making tea with a tea bag, or me typing this on a PC, looking at the characters on the screen, the person sitting opposite me, my hands etc......thats its all made up of atoms, molecules, protons, electrons etc etc.

    Baffling.

    Flann O'Brien had it sussed.....
    “Now take a sheep,” the sergeant said. “What is a sheep, only millions of little bits of sheepness whirling around and doing intricate convolutions inside the sheep? What else is it but that?”
    “Atomics is a very intricate theorem and can be worked out with algebra, but you would want to take it by degrees, because you might spend the whole night proving a bit of it with rulers and cosines and similar other instruments and then at the windup not believe what you had proved at all. If that happened, you would have to go back over it till you got a place where you could believe your own facts and figures and then go on again from that particular place till you had the whole thing properly believed and not have bits of it half-believed or a doubt in your head hurting you like when you lose the stud of your shirt in bed.”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    The landing on the moon thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,128 ✭✭✭✭aaronjumper


    That it's not butter.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    Michael D Hobbitt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    There is no meaning to life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Footoo


    Your Face wrote: »
    There is no meaning to life.

    Asked and answered............42!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,731 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    That Limerick FC are a poor team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Some people believe the world is flat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭Mena Mitty


    NIMAN wrote: »
    That everything is made up of tiny particles that have other tiny particles floating around them.

    Anytime I try to look at things in life, just plain old normal things, like making tea with a tea bag, or me typing this on a PC, looking at the characters on the screen, the person sitting opposite me, my hands etc......thats its all made up of atoms, molecules, protons, electrons etc etc.

    Baffling.

    Such loose talk (just kidding) has me thinking of all the parasites living within my body and the microscopic creepies I can't see.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Mena Mitty wrote: »
    Such loose talk (just kidding) has me thinking of all the parasites living within my body and the microscopic creepies I can't see.
    It gets weirder when you consider that taking your body as a whole, your cells are about the same number as the bacteria living in and on you. You're half "microscopic creepies". :D We're as much an ecosystem as an organism, which I think is cool myself.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Santa Claus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Afrston


    Is science a proof? Really? What about sectio aurea? There are many flowers, plants, shells that are very similar or the same. But flakes are made by human and I don't know any source of scientific research about that :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Afrston wrote: »
    But flakes are made by human and I don't know any source of scientific research about that :D

    an-apple-a-day-head-shoulders-green-apple-shampoo-and-conditioner-review_emj8y9.jpg

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Footoo wrote: »
    Asked and answered............42!

    Nope. That's the answer to the ultimate question. Which we know not what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    No two cornflakes are the same....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I still dont know what a tracker mortgage is :o



    wait......

    am I doing this right ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 646 ✭✭✭hungry hypno toad


    frag420 wrote: »
    No two cornflakes are the same....

    No two corn crakes are the same either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    That someone could spend 7 years on a forum and only post 25 times.

    Scorpio!
    He'll sting you with his dreams, of power and wealth.
    Beware of... Scorpio!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 crubbeens


    That someone could spend 7 years on a forum and only post 25 times.

    9 years, 12 posts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,554 ✭✭✭valoren


    crubbeens wrote: »
    9 years, 12 posts!

    crubbeens!
    He'll sting you with his dreams, of power and wealth.
    Beware of... crubeens!

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    That Pi never repeats itself, how can you have infinite arrangements of a finite number of digits (1-9).

    Also, that the odds of 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 coming up in the Lotto are the exact same as the odds of any other random specific set of numbers.
    I don't play the lotto, mostly because I'm very aware of how long the odds are, but if I did, I'm never picking the first consecutive set of numbers, or any other consecutive set.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    For me it's the birthday thing. If you put 23 random people in a room there's a 50% chance 2 will have same birthday. If you put 75 people, that rises to 99.9% possibility. I've seen the maths, I know it's true, I still don't believe it though.

    Link: https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-the-birthday-paradox/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭sparksfly


    That its not butter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭yeppydeppy


    I find it hard to believe that people are that stupid, they believe in reiki, astrology, psychics, gods, spirits, ouija boards (started life as a board game) and all sorts of other bull**** and they believe it without proof, on the word of someone else. I mean come on are you really that feckin' thick?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,499 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Wibbs wrote: »
    It gets weirder when you consider that taking your body as a whole, your cells are about the same number as the bacteria living in and on you. You're half "microscopic creepies". :D We're as much an ecosystem as an organism, which I think is cool myself.
    Over time, there have been many estimates of the ratio of bacteria to cells, I believe until recently it was considered to be 10:1 in favour of bacteria, but recent research suggests it's roughly 4:3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭angryIreGamer


    this statement is a lie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    DavyD_83 wrote: »
    That Pi never repeats itself, how can you have infinite arrangements of a finite number of digits (1-9)...

    That isn't quite what's meant - when it's said that Pi never repeats itself, what's meant is that it never gets into a pattern that repeats forever. If it did, it would be a rational number, and it isn't. That's the real point, and it's why 22/7 is only an approximation - Pi can never accurately be expressed as a fraction.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,526 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I don't think science definitively says "no two snowflakes are the same", that's just a colloquial take on it. I think it's more a case of "snowflakes are so complex that it is highly unlikely to ever find an identical pair".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I don't think science definitively says "no two snowflakes are the same", that's just a colloquial take on it. I think it's more a case of "snowflakes are so complex that it is highly unlikely to ever find an identical pair".

    Indeed. When you get down to the atomic level, the probability of finding two identical is in the vicinity of 10^18/1 against, because of the small amount (1 molecule in ~5,000) of deuterium in water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,649 ✭✭✭b318isp


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I don't think science definitively says "no two snowflakes are the same", that's just a colloquial take on it. I think it's more a case of "snowflakes are so complex that it is highly unlikely to ever find an identical pair".

    I suspect that is true of any crystalline structure, such as salt - or even grains of sand. The 6 axis close up of snowflakes we often see don't actually show the microscopic variations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,753 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Still can't believe Trump is president


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭MadamRazz


    That we built the pyramids.............but at this point in the Big Bang Theory seasons its mostly just to annoy my OH


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    MadamRazz wrote: »
    That we built the pyramids.............but at this point in the Big Bang Theory seasons its mostly just to annoy my OH

    They're alien landing pads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭nelly17


    The whole Trump thing - clearly the world has gone mad


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Spooky Action at a Distance.

    And Trump.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,510 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    I was talking to a friend earlier and we somehow ended up in a debate about snowflakes..you no the old no two snowflakes are the same theory.
    His basic argument was its science.my argument was i fail to believe 2 identical snow flakes have never fallen before.how can science even prove this ..got me thinking what other things are suposedly true that you dont beleieve ???

    Scientific theories are constantly being disproven. So there's a good chance you may be proven correct, in time. Think it's called pessimistic induction.

    QI had a piece on it before. ~10% of their facts will have been disproven within a year of the show airing iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    PARlance wrote: »
    ...QI had a piece on it before. ~10% of their facts will have been disproven within a year of the show airing iirc.

    ...in accordance with Stephen Fry's First Cromulence Theorem. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    For me it's the birthday thing. If you put 23 random people in a room there's a 50% chance 2 will have same birthday. If you put 75 people, that rises to 99.9% possibility. I've seen the maths, I know it's true, I still don't believe it though.

    Link: https://betterexplained.com/articles/understanding-the-birthday-paradox/
    To be fair, the link there actually explains why you have trouble believing it.
    In a room of 23, do you think of the 22 comparisons where your birthday is being compared against someone else’s? Probably.

    Do you think of the 231 comparisons where someone who is not you is being checked against someone else who is not you? Do you realize there are so many? Probably not.

    The fact that we neglect the 10 times as many comparisons that don’t include us helps us see why the “paradox” can happen.
    In other words, you're looking at room of 23 people and thinking "that's 22 birthday comparisons. Versus 365 days in the year, of course the odds are tiny".

    Imagine you have 23 people in a room, and you want to make pairs (11 pairs + 1 spare). There are 253 different combinations of that; 253 unique pairs of people. That's where the 50:50 comes from; not numerical trickery, but the bias in our own heads to only consider things from our personal perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭Mena Mitty


    Alun wrote: »
    Over time, there have been many estimates of the ratio of bacteria to cells, I believe until recently it was considered to be 10:1 in favour of bacteria, but recent research suggests it's roughly 4:3.

    Now my brain cells are all confussed about the sums and that.

    But things are looking up, the 2017 All Ireland Autonomous Bacteria Deathmatch final is on tomorrow...Big Bad Bacilli versus the one and only..there can be no other.. Machete Spirochete the referee for the day will be fairplay man...The Great E.Coli Esq.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    That space is unending.

    And if it's not, what's outside it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭DavyD_83


    jimgoose wrote: »
    That isn't quite what's meant - when it's said that Pi never repeats itself, what's meant is that it never gets into a pattern that repeats forever. If it did, it would be a rational number, and it isn't. That's the real point, and it's why 22/7 is only an approximation - Pi can never accurately be expressed as a fraction.

    I understand what it actually means, it just still didn't make any logical sense to me. If truly infinite the has to be a point where the first x numbers is the same as the next x numbers.
    I think one of us may have misunderstood the point of the thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭con___manx1


    Saint patrick isn't irish


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