Are Amazon giving up on Ireland

discombobulate

In the past month loads of things i'd previously have bought on Amazon are not shipping here anymore.

Have they changed policies etc. to stop sending lots of things to Ireland? I know there has always been a few things they wouldn't send like perfume and batteries but now it seems to be most things i'm looking at!!

2 examples of items I bought just over a month ago that won't ship now both dispatched and sold by Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BECPIMC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Chocolate-Protein/dp/B000QSRO1Y/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=drugstore&ie=UTF8&qid=1489144614&sr=1-1&keywords=optimum%2Bnutrition&th=1

elastico

discombobulate wrote: »

In the past month loads of things i'd previously have bought on Amazon are not shipping here anymore.

Have they changed policies etc. to stop sending lots of things to Ireland? I know there has always been a few things they wouldn't send like perfume and batteries but now it seems to be most things i'm looking at!!

2 examples of items I bought just over a month ago that won't ship now both dispatched and sold by Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01BECPIMC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Optimum-Nutrition-Standard-Chocolate-Protein/dp/B000QSRO1Y/ref=sr_1_1_s_it?s=drugstore&ie=UTF8&qid=1489144614&sr=1-1&keywords=optimum%2Bnutrition&th=1

Parcelmotel is the only way to go.

AlanG

I have noticed that a lot less items are included in the free shipping. I imagine after brexit they wont bother with us any more at all.

discombobulate

elastico wrote: »

Parcelmotel is the only way to go.

Not when amazon send things in oversized boxes and split deliveries

Parchment

I never bother with amazon anymore - when i lived in Scotland it was great, everything was free P&P and delivered in no time.

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Asus X540L

Could be brexit related. Which brings me to...
How on earth will it affect Amazon UK?
Will items over 25 be subject to import duties?

Jayop

It really is about time they opened an Irish warehouse with a lot of their best sellers. I know that it's a really small market, but not so small that they wouldn't still earn a nice few dollars from.

henryporter

Amazon.de ftw

qir

Bought a yoke off them there now, 4 things actually, free delivery qualify, checking the order after and 2 of them had changed from delivered to Ireland to not delivered in the time it took me to stick in basket and order.

Asus X540L

Anyone will we have to pay import tariffs post brexit?

Jayop

Asus X540L wrote: »

Anyone will we have to pay import tariffs post brexit?

You'd imagine so if we're expected to buy from the UK store. Maybe they'll finally open a warehouse here or else give us a .ie site that delivers from France.

wiz569

Jayop wrote: »

It really is about time they opened an Irish warehouse with a lot of their best sellers. I know that it's a really small market, but not so small that they wouldn't still earn a nice few dollars from.

They are currently developing the old Jacobs factory on the belgard road in Tallaght for, I presume, an Irish warehouse

Jayop

wiz569 wrote: »

They are currently developing the old Jacobs factory on the belgard road in Tallaght for, I presume, an Irish warehouse

That would greatly improve things on at least their more common items. Nothing more annoying than shopping on Amazon and not knowing if you can buy the item or not till you click into it. Not sure why they couldn't have simply gave a tick box at the side allowing you to only view eligible items.

Alan30

No. More Data Centers. There is no warehouse in Ireland.
http://www.independent.ie/business/technology/amazon-aiming-to-take-the-biscuit-with-data-centre-at-jacobs-factory-34466429.html

wiz569

Sorry guys after a bit more googling it looks like its another data centre ffs

Jayop

Alan30 wrote: »

No. More Data Centers. There is no warehouse in Ireland.

It's sttrange that they're building all these data centers in the most expensive part of the country to buy land and develop it. Surely the way Facebook are looking to develop green field sites in rural Ireland would make more sense. It's not like these data centers require a huge amount of hard to find staff. A few sysadmins and away you go.

sdanseo

It's a bit annoying when these companies locate here and create jobs and all that, but not being bothered to offer their products and services here. It's not the material gain, it's retail threapy after all and not a necessity - but the principle that they aren't arsed despite the tax breaks is a bit ****ty.

Cabaal

sdanseo wrote: »

It's a bit annoying when these companies locate here and create jobs and all that, but not being bothered to offer their products and services here. It's not the material gain, it's retail threapy after all and not a necessity - but the principle that they aren't arsed despite the tax breaks is a bit ****ty.

The investment isn't worth it for the money they'd make back out of such a small population. Makes far more sense for them to use one of several fulfillment centers in the UK.

A lot of the reasons why items can't be shipped to Ireland as zip to do with Amazon and everything to do with carrier restrictions. There are tonnes of items that can't be delivered to Northern Ireland for the same reasons.

ED E

sdanseo wrote: »

It's a bit annoying when these companies locate here and create jobs and all that, but not being bothered to offer their products and services here. It's not the material gain, it's retail threapy after all and not a necessity - but the principle that they aren't arsed despite the tax breaks is a bit ****ty.

Amazon have lots of the AWS branch here, that I've heard of there's very little of the Amazon that you'd think of located here.

Shougeki

sdanseo wrote: »

It's a bit annoying when these companies locate here and create jobs and all that, but not being bothered to offer their products and services here. It's not the material gain, it's retail threapy after all and not a necessity - but the principle that they aren't arsed despite the tax breaks is a bit ****ty.

Also Amazon Web Services is completely unrealted to Amazon store, other than the store runs on the AWS platform. They even have different financial reports.

What would be nice would be if they had a warehouse in NI to cover N&S of the border :P

Cabaal wrote: »

A lot of the reasons why items can't be shipped to Ireland as zip to do with Amazon and everything to do with carrier restrictions. There are tonnes of items that can't be delivered to Northern Ireland for the same reasons.

There is a list here:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201337930

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Shougeki

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TVs might be a weight issue?

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Cabaal

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yeah but some of it seems spurious - for example, they have laptops they will deliver to ireland, and laptops they wont, same for tv's - Im talking about items sold by amazon.co.uk - no reason why 2 similar items and only one will ship to Ireland.

Not all items ship from the same fulfillment centre, that means one laptop or TV could be stocked in a fulfilment center in Scotland but another could be coming from Spain or Poland. Each fulfilment center would have different delivery company's available to it.

So there is a reason why one item could ship to Ireland and another can't be.

Weight and size are other factors so again certainly a totally valid reason why one TV can go to Ireland and one can't.

TallGlass

I have always found it bizzare with tech companies that set up there HQ here but don't offer there services fully here. I'm sure there are different reasons for Amazon, but it's about time they gave us something now that the UK are leaving the EU, it will be mad money ordering something. Then there other sites are awful hard to navigate with a Google translate.

Google there's another company HQ here in Dublin, yet you cannot buy there latest mobile phone the 'Google Pixel' here in Ireland.

Cina

TallGlass wrote: »

I have always found it bizzare with tech companies that set up there HQ here but don't offer there services fully here. I'm sure there are different reasons for Amazon, but it's about time they gave us something now that the UK are leaving the EU, it will be mad money ordering something. Then there other sites are awful hard to navigate with a Google translate.

Google there's another company HQ here in Dublin, yet you cannot buy there latest mobile phone the 'Google Pixel' here in Ireland.

Nothing bizarre about it.

Low corp tax + highly educated workforce = perfect for employment/HQ
Low population = pointless for $$$

EDIT: It's not just us by the way, it's all low population/GDP countries. Amazon's model is focusing on the big markets:
Amazon has retail websites for the United States, the United Kingdom and Ireland, France, Canada, Germany, Italy, Spain, Netherlands, Australia, Brazil, Japan, China, India, and Mexico.

TallGlass

Cina wrote: »

Nothing bizarre about it.

Low corp tax + highly educated workforce = perfect for employment/HQ
Low population = pointless for $$$

That's what I mean by bizzare, we are good enough for there HQ, but not good enoght for there products or services.

Sorry I don't buy that the low population is holding back Google releasing a phone or Amazon setting up an Amazon.ie site that is in EUR and displays products shipped to Ireland, from after a few months a small warehouse with popular products for Irish customers with free delivery. No one is asking for a full scale UK operation.

TallGlass

Cina wrote: »

Nothing bizarre about it.

Low corp tax + highly educated workforce = perfect for employment/HQ
Low population = pointless for $$$

And just to add the low tax here could help offset some of the short fall in the profit.

Cina

TallGlass wrote: »

And just to add the low tax here could help offset some of the short fall in the profit.

We have low corporation tax, not consumer tax, how would that help exactly?

That's what I mean by bizzare, we are good enough for there HQ, but not good enoght for there products or services.

again it's not bizarre, it makes perfect sense.

Sorry I don't buy that the low population is holding back Google releasing a phone or Amazon setting up an Amazon.ie site that is in EUR and displays products shipped to Ireland, from after a few months a small warehouse with popular products for Irish customers with free delivery. No one is asking for a full scale UK operation.

And yet they don't do it, why do you think that is? Do you really think amazon wouldn't open a site here if they thought it was profitable for them, especially when we all use the UK site anyway?

Now, the question is whether, when the UK leave the EU, whether they'll consider us viable. Probably not, going by their list of countries they've actually set up sites in.

Oh and google didn't release the Pixel here cause they can't release enough stock to keep up with demand, they released all the other Nexus devices here.

TallGlass

Well Cina, by your logic, Tesco, TKMaxx, Argos, M&S, Iceland, should never have set up here. Tesco do better here than the do in the UK and that's as you even said a bigger market.

Sorry but I don't buy it at all, nothing wrong with the market here at all. Amazon would do very very well here IMO.

As for your comment about the Pixel, have a bit of respect for owners/fans of your devices in your host HQ country in the EU and make the stock available. It's embarrassing that literally 100km from there HQ you can buy a Pixel as it's in the UK.

Cina

TallGlass wrote: »

Well Cina, by your logic, Tesco, TKMaxx, Argos, M&S, Iceland, should never have set up here. Tesco do better here than the do in the UK and that's as you even said a bigger market.

Sorry but I don't buy it at all, nothing wrong with the market here at all. Amazon would do very very well here IMO.

As for your comment about the Pixel, have a bit of respect for owners/fans of your devices in your host HQ country in the EU and make the stock available. It's embarrassing that literally 100km from there HQ you can buy a Pixel as it's in the UK.

Well it's not by my logic at all because you've just named a bunch of retailers who sell goods in their stores. The only way for them to access the Irish market is to actually come here and open stores.

Amazon, as an online retailer, can simply sell to us from their UK store and let us pay for delivery or use parcelmotel, so what's the point of them setting up a warehouse and site here when they don't need to do so? Don't you think one of the world's biggest companies would've done so if they actually thought they could increase their profits from it? I'm really not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

Occono

Cina wrote: »

Amazon, as an online retailer, can simply sell to us from their UK store and let us pay for delivery or use parcelmotel, so what's the point of them setting up a warehouse and site here when they don't need to do so? Don't you think one of the world's biggest companies would've done so if they actually thought they could increase their profits from it? I'm really not sure why this is so hard to grasp.

Well they would seeing as the UK site has always, and continues to be, a pain to use in Ireland.

There are some things on there I just don't know where else I can buy from. I think there's an opportunity they're missing.

godskitchen

If Amazon thought they could make money operating a warehouse here, they would open one.

The problem they would have is, many of the items would be say, 1-5% more expensive than the UK site and people would just shop there instead to save €2

Cina

Occono wrote: »

Well they would seeing as the UK site has always, and continues to be, a pain to use in Ireland.

There are some things on there I just don't know where else I can buy from. I think there's an opportunity they're missing.

And everyone still uses it because we don't have an alternative. It's cheaper than the stores that are set up here, and as said above, if they opened a store here it'd probably be more expensive anyway.

Asus X540L

Do Amazon Germany or France do free shipping over a certain amount?

Shougeki

Asus X540L wrote: »

Do Amazon Germany or France do free shipping over a certain amount?

Not to Ireland, AFAIK