Buyer on Donedeal very anxious to get PayPal address

vicwatson

Wondering if any scams going around about this? Buyer doesn't seem to care about the shipping price or PayPal fees just keeps banging on about getting my PayPal address to send money to

Any known scams doing the rounds?

Cheers

stronglikebull

There area always scams involving Paypal and Donedeal. This is a 100% scam.

elperello

Cash and carry only.

vicwatson

stronglikebull wrote: »

There area always scams involving Paypal and Donedeal. This is a 100% scam.

How though? I get the money in PayPal and withdraw it so what happens then??

vicwatson

elperello wrote: »

Cash and carry only.

Even cash can be fake - better done electronically no??

El Tarangu

They pay you the money by Paypal.

You ship the item.

They get item.

They contact Paypal, say that they never received the item.

They have both their money, and your item.

whiterebel

It does sound suspicious, vicwatson. El Tarangu lays it out perfectly how they do it. Even if you have a signed for delivery, they'll say there was nothing in it. PayPal will normally side with the buyer.

whiterebel

elperello wrote: »

Cash and carry only.

Someone was done last week with fake notes over in the Apple devices forum.
Sold an iPhone 7 for €720 of chip paper, face to face. Realised too late it was fake.

vicwatson

El Tarangu wrote: »

They pay you the money by Paypal.

You ship the item.

They get item.

They contact Paypal, say that they never received the item.

They have both their money, and your item.

What? and PayPal come back to seller and demand the money back if you've already withdrawn it to your back account??

nhunter100

vicwatson wrote:

What and PayPal come back to seller and demand the money back if you've already withdrawn it to your back account??

Yes they do , you have been advised of what the scam is. You also have the right to ignore the advice. Cash is king just make sure it's real.

Miaireland

Correct. Paypal tends to always believe the buyer. From what you describe it sounds very much like a scam.

vicwatson

nhunter100 wrote: »

Yes they do , you have been advised of what the scam is. You also have the right to ignore the advice. Cash is king just make sure it's real.

So buyer pays in money, I withdraw money to my personal bank account, I ship goods, they make a claim that nothing in the box and PayPal pay them out.

How do PayPal come after me? I don't get that part

nhunter100

vicwatson wrote:

So buyer pays in money, I withdraw money to my personal bank account, I ship goods, they make a claim that nothing in the box and PayPal pay them out.

What is your PayPal account linked to ?

Unearthly

vicwatson wrote: »

So buyer pays in money, I withdraw money to my personal bank account, I ship goods, they make a claim that nothing in the box and PayPal pay them out.

How do PayPal come after me? I don't get that part

Your account goes into a negative balance and they will have a collections team ring you a few times before sending it to a third party debt collector

vicwatson

nhunter100 wrote: »

What is your PayPal account linked to ?

As stated, a bank account. Do they dip into it? What if I have a zero balance after withdrawing the funds?

nhunter100

vicwatson wrote:

As stated, a bank account. Do they dip into it? What if I have a zero balance after withdrawing the funds?

I think you need to read up on PayPal's T&C's.
Up to you to take the advice/explanations that have been offered. Best of luck, I'm out.

elperello

whiterebel wrote: »

Someone was done last week with fake notes over in the Apple devices forum.
Sold an iPhone 7 for €720 of chip paper, face to face. Realised too late it was fake.

Is nothing sacred?

Unearthly

vicwatson wrote: »

As stated, a bank account. Do they dip into it? What if I have a zero balance after withdrawing the funds?

No they are not allowed to use any bank account or card without the users authorisation

uck51js9zml2yt

It seems Vic didn't really want advice.
Let us know how you get on with PayPal in a few weeks!

ellobee

Tell them to send it by Friends and Family and see what the reaction is

vicwatson

nhunter100 wrote: »

I think you need to read up on PayPal's T&C's.
Up to you to take the advice/explanations that have been offered. Best of luck, I'm out.

Thanks very much you've been very helpful with your directness

nhunter100

vicwatson wrote:

Thanks very much you've been very helpful with your directness

No worries, hate seeing someone getting scammed. Take care.

Copper_pipe

They could send a fake paypal email too to suggest the money has been sent

ellobee

Look there are always going to be people out there trying to scam you no matter what kind of payment you use but overall the majority of transactions go off without a hitch and imho paypal is one of the safest ways to do business I mean all the guy can do is say he never got the parcel, how many times can he do that without paypal copping on, send it by registered post for extra security. but in the end its down to you, if you have a bad feeling about this guy then dont do business with him, most of the time our instincts are right.

Looks to me that someone wants to get one of their buddies to send them money "for an item for sale" then move that money to their bank account. Then get the buddy to say they never received item and get their money back from PayPal.

Wheety

Deleted User wrote: »

Looks to me that someone wants to get one of their buddies to send them money "for an item for sale" then move that money to their bank account. Then get the buddy to say they never received item and get their money back from PayPal.

Now that is some mental gymnastics


vicwatson, let me guess, they didn't even try and bargain you down? You mention shipping fee, where is the buyer based? Please don't say Nigeria.

Is the email address you're contacting him by the same as your PayPal? Just tell him to send the fees there. When you get an email from 'PayPal', DO NOT click on any links in it but have a look at the sender's address and I don't just mean how it looks in the address bar. Look at the header information.

Put the mouse cursor over any link but don't click on it. See if it matches the link text.

Then, separately (not through a link in the email), log into your PayPal and see if the money is there. My guess is it won't be or will be marked as pending.

Come back here again then before sending any item.

vicwatson

Wheety wrote: »

Now that is some mental gymnastics


vicwatson, let me guess, they didn't even try and bargain you down? You mention shipping fee, where is the buyer based? Please don't say Nigeria.

Is the email address you're contacting him by the same as your PayPal? Just tell him to send the fees there. When you get an email from 'PayPal', DO NOT click on any links in it but have a look at the sender's address and I don't just mean how it looks in the address bar. Look at the header information.

Put the mouse cursor over any link but don't click on it. See if it matches the link text.

Then, separately (not through a link in the email), log into your PayPal and see if the money is there. My guess is it won't be or will be marked as pending.

Come back here again then before sending any item.

No bargaining down

Says they are based in Sligo, wants the goods shipped to Gloucester to his son !

Have only been in contact via messaging service on donedeal, asked for the destination address and they made an excuse that donedeal wont allow him send the destination address (even via their messaging service ), that he keeps being warned by donedeal (dont know why !!) but he then proceeded to give me an email address and if i email them they will email me the destination address.

Ive gone back and told him that I want cash now anyway and asked if that was ok with him that we didn't use paypal, no reply as of yet, surprise surprise

AlmightyCushion

Copper_pipe wrote: »

They could send a fake paypal email too to suggest the money has been sent

This. They normally don't send any money to your paypal at all. They just send a fairly convincing email to your PayPal address saying that they've paid you.

punisher5112

Op its a scam.

You have been told. String them along but do not deal.

So buyer is in one place but wants shipped elsewhere.

Have they come up with the we will pay shipping and oh we put too much into your account we need you to send the extra back.

Copper_pipe

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

This. They normally don't send any money to your paypal at all. They just send a fairly convincing email to your PayPal address saying that they've paid you.

I got an email before and the address was xxx@paypol.com :pac::pac:

Op,If you want to continue leading them on, Post the replies here so we can have a laugh:D:D

AlmightyCushion

Copper_pipe wrote: »

I got an email before and the address was xxx@paypol.com :pac::pac:

Op,If you want to continue leading them on, Post the replies here so we can have a laugh:D:D

Polt Pot, first he massacres a couple of million people then he starts hassling people for money. What an asshole.

Sleeper12

vicwatson wrote:

What? and PayPal come back to seller and demand the money back if you've already withdrawn it to your back account??

To set up a PayPal account you have to give your bank details & permission for them to withdraw. Even if you have withdrawn money back to your account they can take it back again. T&cs can be horrible

Suckit

From a few weeks back on Liveline - http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/programmes/2017/0223/854905-liveline-thursday-23-february-2017/?clipid=2410583
Specifically - http://bit.ly/2n7NXVi
You might have to forward in a couple of minutes, i still had the link from forwarding it to a friend of mine a week back. He had the same scam attempted on him

Sono

OP if you fall for this after all the advice here then I give up, donedeal = many many scammers. donedeal and PayPal = many many more scammers with a fool proof way of getting their money and your product. Glad to see you're not going to be sucked in. This scam has been going on years. Maybe try selling on adverts and check their feedback and give an indication of what the person is like before selling. I would not recommend selling to anyone with little or no feedback, just my view on it and has served me well so far.

Unearthly

Sleeper12 wrote: »

To set up a PayPal account you have to give your bank details & permission for them to withdraw. Even if you have withdrawn money back to your account they can take it back again. T&cs can be horrible

This isn't true for Irish paypal accounts. The balance goes into a negative and they try to retrieve the money back the same way a company like Sky would if you defaulted on a contract, ie ring you and then eventually debt collector