is there a need for room-stats if every radiator has a thermostat?

Andy From Sligo

is there a need for room-stats if every radiator has a TRV?

TPM

am i going to regret this

room stat is connected back to the boiler to turn it off when it gets up to temperature
TRV just shuts off flow to the rad

jimf

TPM wrote: »

am i going to regret this

room stat is connected back to the boiler to turn it off when it gets up to temperature
TRV just shuts off flow to the rad

why and how and when :D

Andy From Sligo

TPM wrote: »

am i going to regret this

room stat is connected back to the boiler to turn it off when it gets up to temperature
TRV just shuts off flow to the rad

not the same thing then? - if the rad trv's reach temp and then shut wont the boiler thermostat reach temperature and switch off the burner anyway?

jimf

wheres me feckin popcorn

Andy From Sligo

jimf wrote: »

wheres me feckin popcorn

i dunno, try looking behind the settee ....

TPM

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

not the same thing then? - if the rad trv's reach temp and then shut wont the boiler thermostat reach temperature and switch off the burner anyway?

what a bout the cylinder, it could keep circulating through it
or if it has a motorised valve the pump could end up pumping against a closed circuit.
you save more fuel by shutting off the boiler with room stat

jimf

but why would anybody hide their popcorn behind the settee andy

cruiser202006

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

not the same thing then? - if the rad trv's reach temp and then shut wont the boiler thermostat reach temperature and switch off the burner anyway?

Rads will shut off but burner will keep firing just to heat boiler on its own until it reaches temperature therefore using oil unnecessarily

TPM

jimf wrote: »

but why would anybody hide their popcorn behind the settee andy

would you not hide it behind the sofa :P

Andy From Sligo

jimf wrote: »

but why would anybody hide their popcorn behind the settee andy

from that film you watched the other night? - saving whats left for next time

Andy From Sligo

TPM wrote: »

would you not hide it behind the sofa :P

you say tomatoes .. i say tomatoes ....

youtheman

You cannot have TRVs and Room Stats in the same room. Two separate devices trying to control the same parameter (heat) will be a clusterf*ck.

Wheeliebin30

TPM wrote: »

what a bout the cylinder, it could keep circulating through it
or if it has a motorised valve the pump could end up pumping against a closed circuit.
you save more fuel by shutting off the boiler with room stat

Doesn't the pump do that anyway with the pump run on?

Jack the Stripper

All the questions Andy.

Kristopherus

youtheman wrote: »

You cannot have TRVs and Room Stats in the same room. Two separate devices trying to control the same parameter (heat) will be a clusterf*ck.

But this is Andy from Sligo attempting to break records for starting the most threads in a year.:D. And most of his threads are a bit nonsenseical:).

Jack the Stripper

Is Andy really from Sligo?

ForestFire

I personnel prefer rad tvr's over what is normally 1 sat downstairs and one up stairs in hall.

The boiler is on a timer to come on in the evening and morning. During this time the rooms heat up only to their desired level (that is bedrooms low and living areas higher).

Yes, if all rooms are to their level the boiler will continue to run to maintain the set temperature, but with good insulation between boiler and house I find this minimal and rare. Also as said boiler is on timer only for a few hours each evening.

Obviously acurate temperature sat in each room, working together could be more efficient, but what is the cost of this done properly? Because sats in hallway only, or two rooms only is useless in my Joe soap user opinion

Andy From Sligo

youtheman wrote: »

You cannot have TRVs and Room Stats in the same room. Two separate devices trying to control the same parameter (heat) will be a clusterf*ck.

well the heating engineer who done our house couldnt have received the memo cause we have a rad in the kitchen diner (ooh sounds posh that) with a TRV on it an a roomstat in the same room

Andy From Sligo

Kristopherus wrote: »

But this is Andy from Sligo attempting to break records for starting the most threads in a year.:D. And most of his threads are a bit nonsenseical:).

ah well its free to ask innit?;)

just got to look up the word nonsenseical....

Andy From Sligo

Jack the Stripper wrote: »

Is Andy really from Sligo?

Sligo is what it says on letters that get delivered to our house every day .....

maybe I could change it to Andy in Sligo one day if I could be arséd

Tom44

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

is there a need for room-stats if every radiator has a TRV?

All professional members recommend bringing your wife to the pictures on a Friday night, after posting our professional (members) opinion.
93% of voters are in the photo.

Tom44

I'm happy Andy's in Sligo

Jack the Stripper

Professional members, what special qualifications does one need!

Tom44

Kristopherus wrote: »

But this is Andy from Sligo attempting to break records for starting the most threads in a year.:D. And most of his threads are a bit nonsenseical:).

Kris, thats a , Bit hipericotical after 10,000 posts yourself I think.




Leave our buddy Andy alone.





Or else me buddy will alter your posts to a sad three.

Andy From Sligo

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

well the heating engineer who done our house couldnt have received the memo cause we have a rad in the kitchen diner (ooh sounds posh that) with a TRV on it an a roomstat in the same room

Well now you'd be able to telll him and how room stats are not really for kitchen diners.

Andy From Sligo

gary71 wrote: »

Well now you'd be able to telll him and how room stats are not really for kitchen diners.

Yes, if I would ever get to see the plumber/heating Engineer who put the central heating in our house I have a plethora of questions I would like to ask him lol but I doubt I will ever find out who he is or if I will ever meet him. Honestly to be honest its shockingly done really , and that's even me not being a heating engineer but even I can see where things have been done so wrong on the system! ... It works though( in a fashion, ) so that's something to be thankful of!

Andy From Sligo

gary71 wrote: »

Well now you'd be able to telll him and how room stats are not really for kitchen diners.

Your telling me, the roomstat in the kitchen/diner ...you start cooking, kitchen diner gets hot... Turns off roomstat ...rads in other rooms on the downstairs go cold because roomstat has reached ! .... Grrrrr....

Andy From Sligo

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Your telling me, the roomstat in the kitchen/diner ...you start cooking, kitchen diner gets hot... Turns off roomstat ...rads in other rooms on the downstairs go cold because roomstat has reached ! .... Grrrrr....

Now yer sucking diesel.

jca

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Your telling me, the roomstat in the kitchen/diner ...you start cooking, kitchen diner gets hot... Turns off roomstat ...rads in other rooms on the downstairs go cold because roomstat has reached ! .... Grrrrr....

Just turn it up by a few degrees when cooking.

Jack the Stripper

Download the justeat.ie app on your phone and live on take aways.

Andy From Sligo

gary71 wrote: »

Now yer sucking diesel.

shtall the digger! .....

jca

jca wrote: »

Just turn it up by a few degrees when cooking.

As most stats are wired without a Neutral or have no built in anticipator a room stat can still play up with a modulation heat source compared to fittting it in a hall.

jca

gary71 wrote: »

As most stats are wired without a Neutral or have no built in anticipator a room stat can still play up with a modulation heat source compared to fittting it in a hall.

Jargon alert... The boom is back.