1ltr cars available in Ireland?

colm_mcm

Yeah there would have been a 1.2 16v corsa alright.

Zurbaran

Get a 1.5 naturally aspirated 4 cylinder Mazda 2. Cracking engine but you need the 90hp version rather than the 75hp. 0-60 in 9.4 which is nippy enough. No turbo lag and they love to be revved.

JohnBoy26

Zurbaran wrote: »

Get a 1.5 naturally aspirated 4 cylinder Mazda 2. Cracking engine but you need the 90hp version rather than the 75hp. 0-60 in 9.4 which is nippy enough. No turbo lag and they love to be revved.

75bhp from a 1.5 in this day and age is shocking, even 90bhp is poor enough.

Andy From Sligo

colm_mcm wrote: »

Yeah there would have been a 1.2 16v corsa alright.

but never a 1.0 ltr 16v?

Andy From Sligo

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If you want a runaround you should buy a late mk1 yaris on the cc system. It's €199 per year to tax, has an excellent 1 liter 4 cylinder vvti engine, is cheap to run and you won't have to spend €12k to buy one.

are you talking 2005 then? - thats quite old now - just thinking about insurance places not wanting to insure old motors now

JohnBoy26

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

are you talking 2005 then? - thats quite old now - just thinking about insurance places not wanting to insure old motors now

Ya 2005. You will still be able to insure one. A good example should last you years.

Zurbaran

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

75bhp from a 1.5 in this day and age is shocking, even 90bhp is poor enough.

Nearly all small engined cars are turbo now. Mazda took a different approach.

For example the Fiesta's that are quicker to 60 than a 90hp mazda 2 are 125hp and above. 0-60 the 125hp is only .03 quicker. Speed isn't all that matters though, the mazda 1.5 feels great to drive.

CJhaughey

Get a Kei Car. Some lovely ones available but not as cool as the mid to late 90's

The Honda S660 would be my choice given a free hand.

https://www.tradecarview.com/used_car/honda/s660/20316653/

Andy From Sligo

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Ya 2005. You will still be able to insure one. A good example should last you years.

get jittery about NCT on a car now 10 years or over even though there are still some nice cars of this vintage and older out there

JohnBoy26

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

get jittery about NCT on a car now 10 years or over even though there are still some nice cars of this vintage and older out there

Nct is a very small issue. It's not as big of a deal(to pass) as people think. The yaris is a pretty straightforward car anyway and is usually very easy to maintain.

Andy From Sligo

Punto looks OK at 13,750eur but then its got 1.2l 126g/km emmision so then thats blooming 270eur tax a year - why couldnt they have put a 1ltr mpi into a punto, im sure they could have done.

Panda, (but was never a fan of them, I liked the punto better) 12.945eur even that has a 1.2l now but 95g/km so thats better tax at 180annual -

Andy From Sligo

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Nct is a very small issue. It's not as big of a deal(to pass) as people think. The yaris is a pretty straightforward car anyway and is usually very easy to maintain.

yeah I quite like the look of the Mk1 Yaris really, looks OK ... well the 4door one looks nice, I dont like the look of the 2door ones much - but then never been a fan of 2 door cars, normally the front 2 doors are heavy and there's normally no rear windows to open on a 2 door car and sometimes I like to load something into and out of the back seats or have back seat passengers where they can get in and out of car without disturbing front seat passengers - plus I think 5 door cars are safer in accident for people to get out

Starscream25

I have a 1 litre 3 cyclinder 100bhp fiesta, like a go kart, good craic to drive, not too bad on the eye either, 180 a year on tax and up to 50 real world mpg. Cheap as chips as far as cars go. I'd recommend them to anyone

stesaurus

What about a 0ltr 0 cylinder, 120/year tax Renault Zoe? Bring in 2nd hand fairly cheap. Very smooth, nippy, easy to park and cost almost nothing to run it.
Other than that a Yaris hybrid or similar. I'd stay away from any of these modern 1ltr turbo's

Andy From Sligo

s.welstead wrote: »

What about a 0ltr 0 cylinder, 120/year tax Renault Zoe? Bring in 2nd hand fairly cheap. Very smooth, nippy, easy to park and cost almost nothing to run it.
...

TESLA would be even nicer

ice.cube

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

Punto looks OK at 13,750eur but then its got 1.2l 126g/km emmision so then thats blooming 270eur tax a year - why couldnt they have put a 1ltr mpi into a punto, im sure they could have done.

Panda, (but was never a fan of them, I liked the punto better) 12.945eur even that has a 1.2l now but 95g/km so thats better tax at 180annual -

How can you think of spending that kind of money and at the same time be put out by a €90 difference in motor tax? I am genuinely baffled. Depreciation would be by far the biggest cost.

You are wiping out a huge number of potential cars by limiting yourself to your own particular set of criteria.

No offence, just genuinely curious?

Andy From Sligo

ice.cube wrote:

How can you think of spending that kind of money and at the same time be put out by a €90 difference in motor tax? I am genuinely baffled. Depreciation would be by far the biggest cost.

You are wiping out a huge number of potential cars by limiting yourself to your own particular set of criteria.

No offence, just genuinely curious?

Just working on budgets, trying to save money wherever and whenever. Taking everything into account

chicorytip

Are 3 cylinder engines, particularly with higher mileage, more prone to failure due to lack of compression?

Andy From Sligo

I see mentioned on another boards thread the SEAT Mii being mentioned 1.0L 75hp 102g/km 190eur annual tax (3-cylinder shame ) 2door at only 10,620eur which is good price and 11,215 for 5 door - I wonder what the engines in these are like if they are smooth especially when idling ... anyone got one or test driven one?

CiniO

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

I see mentioned on another boards thread the SEAT Mii being mentioned 1.0L 75hp 102g/km 190eur annual tax (3-cylinder shame ) 2door at only 10,620eur which is good price and 11,215 for 5 door - I wonder what the engines in these are like if they are smooth especially when idling ... anyone got one or test driven one?

Had one last year as a rental.
You won't like it - lot's of vibration at idle, and typical 3 cylinder sound.
Also car had 50k km, and sounds from engine and gearbox were frightening.
I know rentals don't have easy life, but still...

Andy From Sligo

CiniO wrote: »

Had one last year as a rental.
You won't like it - lot's of vibration at idle, and typical 3 cylinder sound.
Also car had 50k km, and sounds from engine and gearbox were frightening.
I know rentals don't have easy life, but still...

oh right thanks, I thought someone said on here the VW 3 cylinders were the best ones and I was presuming a VW engine put in the Mii

Ah well the only other one in the price range is a Dacia Sandero - they do it in 1ltr but I cannot find out if 3 or 4 cylinder , I suppose seeing as all these manufacturers are going over to 3cyl for smaller engines thats what it will be. Have emailed them anyway to ask. - The Sandero is around 10grand and it looks like 5 door model as standard, looks on the big size in the pictures

CiniO

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

oh right thanks, I thought someone said on here the VW 3 cylinders were the best ones and I was presuming a VW engine put in the Mii

Ah well the only other one in the price range is a Dacia Sandero - they do it in 1ltr but I cannot find out if 3 or 4 cylinder , I suppose seeing as all these manufacturers are going over to 3cyl for smaller engines thats what it will be. Have emailed them anyway to ask. - The Sandero is around 10grand and it looks like 5 door model as standard, looks on the big size in the pictures

Sandero 0.9 engine is 3 cylinder turbo.
They also have simple 1.2 non-turbo which is the cheapest.

Sandero is fairly small, but not as tiny as Mii, Citigo, Up, 107, C1, Aygo, etc...

Looks like you won't find 1 litre 4 cylinder car.

However I still struggle to understand your reasons for 1 litre engine and refusing the likes of 1.2 etc...

As motortax is not based on engine size, and insurance is probably the same for 1.0 and 1.2, I really can't find a reason.

Andy From Sligo

CiniO wrote: »

Sandero 0.9 engine is 3 cylinder turbo.
They also have simple 1.2 non-turbo which is the cheapest.

Sandero is fairly small, but not as tiny as Mii, Citigo, Up, 107, C1, Aygo, etc...

Looks like you won't find 1 litre 4 cylinder car.

However I still struggle to understand your reasons for 1 litre engine and refusing the likes of 1.2 etc...

As motortax is not based on engine size, and insurance is probably the same for 1.0 and 1.2, I really can't find a reason.

Thanks for the info - no, of course I will look into 1.2 as well - be nice if I dont have to pay over 190eur a year for tax . - 1ltr used to be much more economical than 1.2 years ago, but I suppose with modern engines these days its not so much an issue now these days. I know at one time I had a 1ltr corsa and my wifes car was the punto 1.2 and my corsa used a lot less petrol

colm_mcm

Andy From Sligo wrote: »

oh right thanks, I thought someone said on here the VW 3 cylinders were the best ones and I was presuming a VW engine put in the Mii

Ah well the only other one in the price range is a Dacia Sandero - they do it in 1ltr but I cannot find out if 3 or 4 cylinder , I suppose seeing as all these manufacturers are going over to 3cyl for smaller engines thats what it will be. Have emailed them anyway to ask. - The Sandero is around 10grand and it looks like 5 door model as standard, looks on the big size in the pictures

It's one of the smoothest 3 cylinders and is night and day comparing it with the Toyota unit. But it's still not as smooth as a 4 banger. It's surprisingly punchy for its size. I had one in a Fabia estate last year and it wasn't dreadful by any stretch.

oscar2

colm_mcm wrote: »

It's one of the smoothest 3 cylinders and is night and day comparing it with the Toyota unit. But it's still not as smooth as a 4 banger. It's surprisingly punchy for its size. I had one in a Fabia estate last year and it wasn't dreadful by any stretch.

Is it more reliable than the early vw 1.2 tsi? Any tendency to use oil?

colm_mcm

oscar2 wrote: »

Is it more reliable than the early vw 1.2 tsi? Any tendency to use oil?

The one I drove was non turbo, so I guess it would be more reliable!

chicorytip

The VW Polo with the basic 1.2 3cyl 70bhp is a very good car indeed. The engine feels perfectly matched to the car and is in no way raucous sounding. Quite economical, also.