Home done c section?

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Just woundering has anyone tried a c section themselves? And if so how it went! Thanks

White Clover

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Ok so today the first of the lambs this year ye could say and first ewe we spot has her lambing bed out and a back foot of a lamb brought her home put in the lambing bed but couldn't get the lambs out they are too far in! Just woundering has anyone tried a c section themselves? And if so how it went! Thanks

Jezus man will you take her to the vet or preferably get the vet out.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

White Clover wrote:

Jezus man will you take her to the vet or preferably get the vet out.

Yeah I know but it's too late for all then I think! Just had to try make her as comfortable as possible!

Bullocks

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Yeah I know but it's too late for all then I think! Just had to try make her as comfortable as possible!

If there was a lambs leg sticking out of yourself it wouldnt be too late for the vet I bet

J.O. Farmer

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Yeah I know but it's too late for all then I think! Just had to try make her as comfortable as possible!

I've never had a c-section done on me being a man and all but it doesn't strike me as in any way comfortable.
If you think the ewe needs a c-section to save her it's a job for the vet. If you think she's a goner and don't want her to suffer the vet can put her down with an injection. Euthanasia of livestock in these situations is legal if deemed appropriate.
A c-section done without veterinary assistance seems like a slow painful way to kill the sheep which is the opposite of either scenario with the vet.

rangler1

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Ok so today the first of the lambs this year ye could say and first ewe we spot has her lambing bed out and a back foot of a lamb brought her home put in the lambing bed but couldn't get the lambs out they are too far in! Just woundering has anyone tried a c section themselves? And if so how it went! Thanks

Are you serious, get her to a vet, you're obviously inexperienced. very poor form to leave her like that, it could be days before she'd die

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote:

Ok so today the first of the lambs this year ye could say and first ewe we spot has her lambing bed out and a back foot of a lamb brought her home put in the lambing bed but couldn't get the lambs out they are too far in! Just woundering has anyone tried a c section themselves? And if so how it went! Thanks

J.O. Farmer wrote:

I've never had a c-section done on me being a man and all but it doesn't strike me as in any way comfortable. If you think the ewe needs a c-section to save her it's a job for the vet. If you think she's a goner and don't want her to suffer the vet can put her down with an injection. Euthanasia of livestock in these situations is legal if deemed appropriate. A c-section done without veterinary assistance seems like a slow painful way to kill the sheep which is the opposite of either scenario with the vet.

Thanks

J.O. Farmer

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Thanks

Your welcome

Green farmer

Got one done on a ewe lamb here last year. I put her in a trailer and brought her to the vet. They did her on the spot once I rang ahead. Cannt really remember the exact figure but think it only cost €70. Ewe survived anyway.

Ard_MC

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Just woundering has anyone tried a c section themselves? And if so how it went! Thanks

Vet...no other way.

Username John

Had a few sections done here, less than 100euro incl antibiotics for a few days after. That was calling the vet and them being in the shed within the hour.

Never lost a ewe after a section, if lambs came out alive they usually lived...

Get the vet, and don't be vexing us on here, on about do-it-yourself sections...

tomwaterford

Username John wrote: »

Had a few sections done here, less than 100euro incl antibiotics for a few days after. That was calling the vet and them being in the shed within the hour.

Never lost a ewe after a section, if lambs came out alive they usually lived...

Get the vet, and don't be vexing us on here, on about do-it-yourself sections...

A vet once told me....that my sheep was the only lambs they took outta a sheep alive were mine
(Had a dose of ringwomb few years ago)


But none never did atal....despite being seemingly healthy



As for this lad....if it's leg is out,well there is a somewhat brutal way if the lamb is too big to some out,that I've only seen done once tbf
(Cut up the lamb)

But surly at that stage it's gone too far for a c-section??
Let it be a lesson to watch them better in future and put down the ewe....don't leave her suffer ffs

JMF240

Username John wrote: »

Had a few sections done here, less than 100euro incl antibiotics for a few days after. That was calling the vet and them being in the shed within the hour.

Never lost a ewe after a section, if lambs came out alive they usually lived...

Get the vet, and don't be vexing us on here, on about do-it-yourself sections...

Our vet told us that their is a low survival among sheep after a CS, however most ewes lived the rare time it was done here. How do others find the survival rate?

tomwaterford

JMF240 wrote: »

Our vet told us that their is a low survival among sheep after a CS, however most ewes lived the rare time it was done here. How do others find the survival rate?

I have low number of sheep....but any that we ever got c-sections lived.....mightnt have been in good form and sore for a week or two after it....but lived away

Ard_MC

JMF240 wrote: »

Our vet told us that their is a low survival among sheep after a CS, however most ewes lived the rare time it was done here. How do others find the survival rate?

Only ever had 1 done on a ewe..lamb and ewe lived. And ewe lambed next yr no problem. Had a cow once as well..set of dead twins in her but she was fine.

razor8

Would imagine the biggest issue with survival rate would be the time the farmer brings them to vet, more than likely after rummaging inside the ewe for a few hours with a mucky hand

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

tomwaterford wrote:

But surly at that stage it's gone too far for a c-section?? Let it be a lesson to watch them better in future and put down the ewe....don't leave her suffer ffs

tomwaterford wrote:

As for this lad....if it's leg is out,well there is a somewhat brutal way if the lamb is too big to some out,that I've only seen done once tbf (Cut up the lamb)

tomwaterford wrote:

But none never did atal....despite being seemingly healthy

tomwaterford wrote:

A vet once told me....that my sheep was the only lambs they took outta a sheep alive were mine (Had a dose of ringwomb few years ago)

Yeah I know it is a lesson to learn! but thought we could put it back in and lamb her but when we did the lambs disappeared! She wasn't due to lamb for a few more days which kinda caught us off guard!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

I believe it's true what they say that you should be a vet to be a farmer!

Odelay

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

I believe it's true what they say that you should be a vet to be a farmer!

No, you only need to know when to call one.

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

Would imagine the biggest issue with survival rate would be the time the farmer brings them to vet, more than likely after rummaging inside the ewe for a few hours with a mucky hand

Deffo, you have to know when it's beyond your ability.
Usually have a good outcome with C Sections here, stupid to mess it up before you go for one

ganmo

the only home done csection i saw was a complete failure. it was on a sow that prolapsed badly, euthanasied then opened to try and find any piglets still alive.
not sure if ya'd even call that a csection.

Green farmer

rangler1 wrote: »

Deffo, you have to know when it's beyond your ability.

Sometimes easier said then done, when your sleep deprived and you know the clock is tricking against you. It's in our Instinct is to keep fighting and not admit defeat, but yes, you have to know when to pick up phone

stantheman1979

Green farmer wrote: »

Sometimes easier said then done, when your sleep deprived and you know the clock is tricking against you. It's in our Instinct is to keep fighting and not admit defeat, but yes, you have to know when to pick up phone

Ive heard of a man who had a ewe who had a total prolapse(insides all out ie ewe was going to have to be shot) try a section out of desperation. Obviously it didnt work. I couldnt condone that under any circumstances.
Ive never had a section done on a ewe. You need to look at the breeding and how much youre feeding ewes. Unless its ring womb which can be tricky or a ewe lamb which are tight you should be well able to lamb a ewe in most cases

charolais0153

Is ring womb where there's a tight circle inside a few inches?

JMF240

charolais0153 wrote: »

Is ring womb where there's a tight circle inside a few inches?

Well it's when the cervix doesn't open, which would be a few inches in from the vulva.

charolais0153

JMF240 wrote: »

Well it's when the cervix doesn't open, which would be a few inches in from the vulva.

When it doesn't own at all or just not fully. We had one if them a few days ago.

greysides

Just to state for the record... a caesarian section is an act of surgery and only be legally done by a qualified veterinary surgeon.

AnFeirmeoir

I had 1 or 2 csections ewes always survived.. never kept them for another year. If i landed back to the vet with a ewe with a scar from last year hed surely have a go at me.

The man in red and black

AnFeirmeoir wrote: »

I had 1 or 2 csections ewes always survived.. never kept them for another year. If i landed back to the vet with a ewe with a scar from last year hed surely have a go at me.

I think the days of vets giving out to farmers are coming to an end. Know a few older vets that would have done it but it doesn't make any sense in this day and age. You can advise against things but giving out is silly imo

tomwaterford

The man in red and black wrote: »

I think the days of vets giving out to farmers are coming to an end. Know a few older vets that would have done it but it doesn't make any sense in this day and age. You can advise against things but giving out is silly imo

In fairness would ya blame them for giving someome a reading.....

Landing in for a caersan with the same ewe 2 years running??? And it by far the busiest time of the year??

Vets and they worm out/working all hours at time of the year.....patience easily runs out (once the giving out isnt excessive is understandable imo)



Personnaly myself any giving bother like that i just cull.....price of fat cull lowland ewes is quite good like??

davidk1394

Had 1 c. section here so far. Brought in the ewe to the vet. She was pushing out her uterus and then I felt the 2 legs and she also had a ringed womb. Rang ahead straight in with the sheep. Lamb out alive safe and well and their both out on grass. She has a blue tag in her ear to mark her for culling later on. I think it costed €50 for the section+ antibiotics

IH784man

Sorry though this was the general sheep thread