Diesel Fuel points along the Shannon

Thanos

Hi folks,

I bought a boat over the winter, few things to be done but as the start of the season is getting nearer I was just wondering where you can buy Diesel along the Shannon.
I know a few places like Carrick, Banagher, Portumna but I am sure there are more that i do not know about.

Any info would be welcome.

Donie75

Add Quigleys Marina near Athlone, Rooskey and possibly Killaloe to your list.

dennyk

Donie75 wrote: »

Add Quigleys Marina near Athlone, Rooskey and possibly Killaloe to your list.

Don't think there's anywhere on the river to fuel up in Killaloe/Ballina itself; the old Lough Derg Marina has been closed for a while and there aren't any other commercial marinas in town, just public moorings.

AnnaCarriga just upriver from Killaloe has a small marina and rents boats, but I don't know if they sell fuel to the public; you could ring them up and ask.

irish snowblower

Hanleys in lanesborough for definite, is there not two marinas on the west bank in killaloe, I think at least one of them sells diesel

JamesM

irish snowblower wrote: »

Hanleys in lanesborough for definite, is there not two marinas on the west bank in killaloe, I think at least one of them sells diesel

In Killaloe, I am pretty sure that Harbour Village does not have facilities. Kincora http://kincoraharbour.com has diesel for berth holders - and maybe others.

dennyk

JamesM wrote: »

In Killaloe, I am pretty sure that Harbour Village does not have facilities. Kincora http://kincoraharbour.com has diesel for berth holders - and maybe others.

Definitely no fuel or other services at Harbour Village (other than power + water points at the private berths), though I guess you could hoof it across the road to Stritch's with a jerry can or three. I don't think Kincora sells fuel to the general public, but you could always ask.

pH

To be honest buying diesel can be a real pain in the ass. A lot number of private places supposedly selling diesel have no one around, and some places I'm not sure I'd trust how good their tanks are and the quality of diesel you're getting.

By far the best bet are the hire bases in terms of service and the 'freshness' of their product, as the turnover is high and are normally staff around. In particular Carrick craft in Carrick have always had someone around and I've never had to wait much or got bad diesel.

On the other hand there's the price!

The hire companies show pretty much a road diesel price on their pumps. To be fair they should since Europe got involved and told us that our pleasure craft should be paying full tax/duty on the fuel. However they are selling untaxed green diesel, this is what comes out of the pump, and Carrick craft (and maybe others) will sell you it at a lower price because you have a 'private' boat, and you are meant to pay the duty yourself at the end of the year. There's a form and everything!

http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/excise/forms/ppn1.pdf

I head a proverbial 'old wives' tale somewhere on the river that the revenue had seen 2 of them returned in the last 10 years or something!

Pretty much every 'untaxed' green diesel price on the river is a fair bit more than agri-diesel at a country garage forecourt. So even accounting for the untaxed price you might be offered, it's still much cheaper to fill drums and pump them onto the boat yourself. My 50hp Nani barely sips the stuff, I can go a long way on 100 litres, but I believe that for more diesel hungry boats with bigger tanks, fuel delivery companies (like home heating oil ones) will pump you tanks full if suitable hoses and a location can be arranged.

Good luck and enjoy your boat!

Donie75

Just wondering what the regulations are around getting an Oil company to fill a boat up. Is it possible to bypass this by getting the boat filled while it out of the water? It would be worth filling a big twin diesel cruiser before it's re-launched after the winter.

pH

Donie75 wrote: »

Just wondering what the regulations are around getting an Oil company to fill a boat up. Is it possible to bypass this by getting the boat filled while it out of the water? It would be worth filling a big twin diesel cruiser before it's re-launched after the winter.

Not sure there are any regulations. Currently you are allowed fill a boat with green diesel and you're obliged to record all this fuel use and then submit a tax payment at the end of the year.

Where, how and with what are totally up to you. The problem with filling when she's afloat is obviously a location that's both tanker and boat friendly, but apart from that I don't know of any regs stopping you.

Ferris

We just use 2 25l ex-oil cans and fill in a garage every time we use the boat (which is not as frequent as it should be). The idea is to bring the cans home and refill on the way back to the boat. Our boat only uses between 1-2gph so its not a guzzler.
By doing this its economical and at least you know there's 50L in the tank and that'll give 10hrs cruising. In fact at one stage we ended up topping the tank.
I would like to improve the process with a portable bowser with a pumping arrangement, like this (https://www.donedeal.ie/plantmachinery-for-sale/emilcaddy-portable-fuel-tank-bowser/11638773) but its expensive. An inline filter arrangement would ensure clean fuel however.
As an aside, I saw a guy refuelling a pilothouse type cruiser powered by a large outboard in Carrick on Shannon last year using 3 100l drums in a trailer. Real case of nobody light a match.