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Library staff - loud talker

  • 17-02-2017 12:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭


    What ever happened to libraries being places where people remain quiet?

    The local library appears to have hired a loud talker.

    As in, speaking loudly all the time, and louder than would be normal in a quiet pub, cafe or anywhere.....

    So it's not quite shouting but verging on it... there appears to be no volume control - it's the same loudness constantly.

    What to do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Loud talkers at concerts, ahhhhh


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    WHAT?!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    What ever happened to libraries being places where people remain quiet?

    The local library appears to have hired a loud talker.

    As in, speaking loudly all the time, and louder than would be normal in a quiet pub, cafe or anywhere.....

    So it's not quite shouting but verging on it... there appears to be no volume control - it's the same loudness constantly.

    What to do?

    Choose your books as fast as you can and leave.. Been there, done that and yes, they are no longer in general quiet places .. NB he may be deaf?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    need more people like this guy




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    As a lifelong Library member and someone who uses the local one weekly, I have seen a huge change in the ethos of public libraries over the past 15 years. Silence is a thing of the past. Our library has kids clubs where stories are read, pictures coloured, and children noisily run loose about the place. Students, and others, sit in rows at the computers while shouting down the line to each other. Meetings and craft demonstrations take place in the reference section, so even a bit of quiet research is now impossible. But at least they still have books and it seems to be helping keep the library open and the children, hopefully, will develop a love of reading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,846 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    What ever happened to libraries being places where people remain quiet?

    The local library appears to have hired a loud talker.

    As in, speaking loudly all the time, and louder than would be normal in a quiet pub, cafe or anywhere.....

    So it's not quite shouting but verging on it... there appears to be no volume control - it's the same loudness constantly.

    What to do?


    The one who worked in our local library when we were kids kids spent the whole time loudly yapping to friends/ family on the phone. The bill must have been huge- this was the 80s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    The local library appears to have hired a loud talker.

    As in, speaking loudly all the time, and louder than would be normal in a quiet pub, cafe or anywhere.....





    Someone show throw the book at them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Butters1979




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭peckerhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    They also have the volume for the notifications on the auto check out on

    Bing
    Bing
    Dong

    Bing Bing......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude



    Tee hee, giggle giggle, chuckle.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    The shush thing in Libraries has been done away with a long time ago..where have you been OP ?

    Good thing too. I recall years ago there was a hush hush culture even in book shops. Load of pretentious nonsense if you ask me.

    Libraries should be for everyone not just bookworm types.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    ****s Sake....

    The other lad at the desk is at it now - maybe they're all deaf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,776 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    People still go to libraries...??

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    learn_more wrote: »
    The shush thing in Libraries has been done away with a long time ago..where have you been OP ?

    Good thing too. I recall years ago there was a hush hush culture even in book shops. Load of pretentious nonsense if you ask me.

    Libraries should be for everyone not just bookworm types.

    I don't mind people talking... . but the staff here are speaking really loudly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    My local library is attached to a shopping centre. I hate it. It's like a creche. One of the staff members that I used to know quite well left last year. I bumped into her recently and she told me she left because she couldn't handle being used as a babysitter anymore. Apparently it was quite common for parents to drop their kids into the library and then head into the shopping centre for an hour or two. Basically using the library staff as unpaid childminders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭learn_more


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    I don't mind people talking... . but the staff here are speaking really loudly.

    Yeah if the staff are talking particularly loudly that would be annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,561 ✭✭✭Rhyme


    My local library is attached to a shopping centre. I hate it. It's like a creche. One of the staff members that I used to know quite well left last year. I bumped into her recently and she told me she left because she couldn't handle being used as a babysitter anymore. Apparently it was quite common for parents to drop their kids into the library and then head into the shopping centre for an hour or two. Basically using the library staff as unpaid childminders.

    This used to happen in my local library until the staff became 'concerned' and called the Gardai with the worry that the child had been 'abandoned'. The Guards turned up pretty quickly, gave the mother an earful when she returned and it doesn't happen as much anymore.

    The mother gave out stink to the staff once the Gardai had left with stuff like "ah you knew I was just going to the shops and then the bookies, you know me well" blah blah blah. The staff just shrugged and said that they didn't know that for sure and were concerned about the well-being of the child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,018 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    In my experience, there's never been a shortage of loud library staff anywhere you go. I always figured it was a passive aggressive learnt behavior on their part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Find somewhere else to sponge WiFi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Find somewhere else to sponge WiFi.


    Ha haa....

    It's pretty warm there also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 400 ✭✭mickmac76


    Yeah the library has changed an awful lot in the last ten or fifteen years. When I was a kid it was dead quite and very solemn. Now It's more like a social centre which is no bad thing. I do think they should have a quite room for people who want to read or study.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rhyme wrote: »
    This used to happen in my local library until the staff became 'concerned' and called the Gardai with the worry that the child had been 'abandoned'. The Guards turned up pretty quickly, gave the mother an earful when she returned and it doesn't happen as much anymore.

    The mother gave out stink to the staff once the Gardai had left with stuff like "ah you knew I was just going to the shops and then the bookies, you know me well" blah blah blah. The staff just shrugged and said that they didn't know that for sure and were concerned about the well-being of the child.

    I worked on the Saturday morning shift in a cinemaplex as a student, the parents would drop off 5 year old kids being 'looked after' by 9 year old kids for the kiddy 11 o'clock feature, then would stroll in an hour after the movie ended to pick them up "they know not to move and wait for us!".

    I started calling the cops, but the manager told us not to because it would lose us business. :(

    I like kids and don't mind looking after them, but no one could do their jobs and look after them too so it was just pure chaos.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    When Eurodisney first opened parents would leave their kids in there for the day and go shopping/site seeing elsewhere.
    The authorities cottoned on to that one after a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭Glenster


    People still go to libraries...??

    How can you even go to a library? Its just a collection of subfolders on your laptop containing your media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Sounds like there could be demand for quiet libraries, or private library clubs like in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,174 ✭✭✭RhubarbCrumble


    catbear wrote: »
    Sounds like there could be demand for quiet libraries, or private library clubs like in the past.

    It's one thing if you're just going in to browse, maybe get a book etc, but I really feel sorry for anyone attempting to actually study or do assignments in there because there's just no way it would be possible with all the noise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    It's one thing if you're just going in to browse, maybe get a book etc, but I really feel sorry for anyone attempting to actually study or do assignments in there because there's just no way it would be possible with all the noise.
    Could be demand for one of these.
    http://www.ziferblat.co.uk/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fiachr_a


    Complain to the security guard in the library.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,751 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    ..........but I really feel sorry for anyone attempting to actually study or do assignments in there because there's just no way it would be possible with all the noise.

    It's actually fine when the staff aren't talking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    need more people like this guy



    Utter hero.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    It's one thing if you're just going in to browse, maybe get a book etc, but I really feel sorry for anyone attempting to actually study or do assignments in there because there's just no way it would be possible with all the noise.

    It's good training for an open plan office.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Neames


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    What ever happened to libraries being places where people remain quiet?

    The local library appears to have hired a loud talker.

    As in, speaking loudly all the time, and louder than would be normal in a quiet pub, cafe or anywhere.....

    So it's not quite shouting but verging on it... there appears to be no volume control - it's the same loudness constantly.

    What to do?

    Tell him/her to stfu...or whiiiiisht;


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    learn_more wrote: »
    I recall years ago there was a hush hush culture even in book shops. Load of pretentious nonsense if you ask me.

    Libraries should be for everyone not just bookworm types.

    Booklovers who like to read in quiet in the library or bookshop. Imagine that. Life doesn't get weirder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭Snugglebunnies


    My local library is attached to a shopping centre. I hate it. It's like a creche. One of the staff members that I used to know quite well left last year. I bumped into her recently and she told me she left because she couldn't handle being used as a babysitter anymore. Apparently it was quite common for parents to drop their kids into the library and then head into the shopping centre for an hour or two. Basically using the library staff as unpaid childminders.


    My aunt is a librarian and this used to happen all the time when she worked in a public library. There was one woman who would drop her two small kids in first thing on Saturday mornings in their pajamas and leave them there for the day. Madness!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,631 ✭✭✭Dirty Dingus McGee


    If library's aren't quiet anymore what is the point of them.

    The world is full of noise there should beat least one place you can go if you want to sit down in quiet and read and study.

    I understand there being special events held in them that's fair enough but apart from that they really should be quite places or at least have a decent part of it zoned off as a quiet room for people who want to read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Ekerot


    Why not just bother going home and reading/studying/whatever in peace and quiet there ?

    Wouldn't it just basically cut out the middle man and save the run of petrol to the library ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    Ha haa....

    It's pretty warm there also

    In small towns you see the old men gathering to get warm and read the newspapers....But they are quiet.. ;)

    And one I know looks after a little boy and lets him play on the computer, eating crisps, until his mother gets off work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Ekerot wrote: »
    Why not just bother going home and reading/studying/whatever in peace and quiet there ?

    Wouldn't it just basically cut out the middle man and save the run of petrol to the library ?

    Few have the range of specialist and reference books a library has.. and how many really have peace and quiet at home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    It's one thing if you're just going in to browse, maybe get a book etc, but I really feel sorry for anyone attempting to actually study or do assignments in there because there's just no way it would be possible with all the noise.

    earplugs are grand ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Few have the range of specialist and reference books a library has.. and how many really have peace and quiet at home?

    The library allows nine reference books be taken out and, contrary to what you seem to imagine, most homes afford silence to students during the day. Indeed, the vast majority of students do not rely on public libraries. They study at college or at home.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Graces7 wrote: »
    In small towns you see the old men gathering to get warm and read the newspapers....But they are quiet.. ;)

    And one I know looks after a little boy and lets him play on the computer, eating crisps, until his mother gets off work.

    Does it not get cold in large towns too? ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,214 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Public libraries are an amazing asset. I dont know why people are whinging at others for using them. I have often used them for studying because not enough space or peace and quiet at home.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,214 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The library allows nine reference books be taken out and, contrary to what you seem to imagine, most homes afford silence to students during the day. Indeed, the vast majority of students do not rely on public libraries. They study at college or at home.
    Libraries now allow 10 books to be taken out. I'd live to know where you got the rest of your information from. Was there data analysis done on quietness in students homes and students library usage.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    It's a great facility to have, and tbh, I like seeing small kids being read to, or secondary school students studying in our local one. Ours isn't very noisy, but definitely not cathedral silence either. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    As has been mentioned, the whole ethos of libraries has changed in recent years (not for the better as far as I'm concerned but people will argue that).
    The notion that a library might be a quiet place to go and read or reflect for a while is scoffed at by many people. The flagship library in Dun Laoghaire, for example, is a place for people to go and assemble, hang about a bit, have a chat or eat their dinner, take their kids and let them run or stomp around for a while. All is encouraged because footfall is the key, just get people inside the door without worrying what they're doing. They even invent a new word for it, Lexicon, to remind us it's not a traditional library anymore.

    Maybe this is not a terrible thing. Lots of people will think so. At least, we are investing in libraries here, renovating and upgrading, while in the UK they are criminally being shut down by the week. But what I find interesting is that a similar process took place in New York many years ago and, currently, there is a noticeable backlash happening there about the loss of libraries as a traditional place of quiet refuge. Perhaps that will happen here too.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ekerot wrote: »
    Why not just bother going home and reading/studying/whatever in peace and quiet there ?

    Wouldn't it just basically cut out the middle man and save the run of petrol to the library ?

    There are plenty of people who cannot get peace and quiet at home. These include kids from flat complexes where all sorts of things are happening around them, kids from troubled homes and kids from large families where there is never enough quiet for focused study to do well in the LC and go to university. It also includes full-time workers who are doing courses at night and cannot get a clear run at reading/studying at home because of their kids.

    Libraries have served an enormous public function in allowing people the conditions to fulfil their educational ambitions, and Irish society benefits enormously from having a more educated population and workforce. In a world of incessant noise from tvs, radios, advertising and so much else, libraries have been more of a sanctuary in recent decades than they were even centuries ago. Making libraries into bustling coffee shops brimming with the equivalent of ICA meetings is a regressive step for all people who value diversity, peace and education.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,737 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    fiachr_a wrote: »
    Complain to the security guard in the library.

    LibroCop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    College libraries are terrible in my opinion. The last place I would ever go study.


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