Passing toll barriers

Johnboner

Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid barrier and hold everyone up for the pathetic 70c toll. I have seen that I would fit through the middle of the lorry barrier as they have a gap large enough for me to fit. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at the number plates so was wondering what was the fine for passing without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 2inch plate if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have loose tax disc for me putting a loose tax disc with a small plate is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for 70c?

Richard tea

Johnboner wrote: »

Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid barrier and hold everyone up for the pathetic 70c toll. I have seen that I would fit through the middle of the lorry barrier as they have a gap large enough for me to fit. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at the number plates so was wondering what was the fine for passing without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 2inch plate if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have loose tax disc for me putting a loose tax disc with a small plate is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for 70c?

I've done it with plate in full view. Haven't been chased up yet. I will say it's after midnight and there is no person on the tolls

ratracer

If you use it everyday, why not just get a toll tag? No need to stop or fish for change anymore....

Max Headroom

ratracer wrote: »

If you use it everyday, why not just get a toll tag? No need to stop or fish for change anymore....

+1

as you say..its only a pathetic 70c.....:)

MarkR

Johnboner wrote: »

Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid barrier and hold everyone up for the pathetic 70c toll. I have seen that I would fit through the middle of the lorry barrier as they have a gap large enough for me to fit. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at the number plates so was wondering what was the fine for passing without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 2inch plate if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have loose tax disc for me putting a loose tax disc with a small plate is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for 70c?

That would be theft then, I believe.

Of 70c.

Proud day for you.

Kimbot

That 70 cent turns into Hundreds of euros pretty dam quickly when it comes to their fines so not worth the hassle of not paying.

arybvtcw0eolkf

MarkR wrote: »

That would be theft then, I believe.

Of 70c.

Proud day for you.

Have you ever been tempted to jump the barrier on your high horse?

Zascar

Get a toll tag. It's easy and its only €0.70 as you say. Go look on the motors forum and see the people who are getting strung up in court for not paying their tolls. Easier to do it right and get a tag.

stewygriffin

Popcorn at the ready here for this thread.:pac::D:D

listermint

Unwritten rule in this thread op you won't see motorcyclists responding.

Read between those lines rather than those who are not motorcyclists.....

stewygriffin

Johnboner wrote: »

Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid barrier and hold everyone up for the pathetic 70c toll. I have seen that I would fit through the middle of the lorry barrier as they have a gap large enough for me to fit. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at the number plates so was wondering what was the fine for passing without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 2inch plate if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have loose tax disc for me putting a loose tax disc with a small plate is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for 70c?

You cheap ass.:p

MarkR

Greyson Fierce Jaguar wrote: »

Have you ever been tempted to jump the barrier on your high horse?

Neigh

Johnboner

ratracer wrote: »

If you use it everyday, why not just get a toll tag? No need to stop or fish for change anymore....

That's what I thought too but this is what I got from etoll.ie

''Tag providers don't supply tags for use by motorcyclists at toll plaza express lanes. Toll plaza operators have also advised that the express lanes are not designed for use by motorcycles. Due to this potential safety hazard, we do not recommend using a Toll Tag with a motorcycle.''


Last thing I want is be sitting there like an idiot waiting for the barrier to open and waste my time and money for no reason.

stewygriffin

Johnboner wrote: »

That's what I thought too but this is what I got from etoll.ie

''Tag providers don't supply tags for use by motorcyclists at toll plaza express lanes. Toll plaza operators have also advised that the express lanes are not designed for use by motorcycles. Due to this potential safety hazard, we do not recommend using a Toll Tag with a motorcycle.''


Last thing I want is be sitting there like an idiot waiting for the barrier to open and waste my time and money for no reason.

Put a 50 cent and 20 cent coin in your glove,zip up to toll plasa past other cars and trucks,whip off glove,drop in money to cashier,whip back on your glove and you are away at warp factor 5.

Its very simple really.

stewygriffin

Oh and thats an answer from a biker who uses tolls quite alot too. too.:P

Johnboner

stewygriffin wrote: »

Put a 50 cent and 20 cent coin in your glove,zip up to toll plasa past other cars and trucks,whip off glove,drop in money to cashier,whip back on your glove and you are away at warp factor 5.

Its very simple really.

That is what I am currently doing however I still find it annoying as I have to stop, I always get the 70c ready before the journey but it's the fact that I have to stop at all, I could just easily fly past the barrier through the middle but the last thing I want is cops at my house for 70c, just wondering if anyone is doing it regularly, maybe I should wait until my plate gets more dirty then do it.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

Johnboner

Patww79 wrote: »

Most people have to stop. Why should you not just because you're on two wheels? And paying less than half the price too.

Because I am not polluting the environment, nowhere near as much and I don't damage the road, I also reduce congestions which increases the economy as traffic jams cost huge amount of money every year. I also annoy drivers behind me as I take longer than a regular car would.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

Johnboner

Patww79 wrote: »

Not polluting as much, but you still are. So if that's your reasoning then that's why the price is much less but not free.

Cars contribute much more than half. For example a bike with a rider is roughly 300kg while a car is 1000-2000kg that is much more than half and results in more erosion of the road. Cars pay 1.40 bikes 70c so it is unfair.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

Johnboner

Patww79 wrote: »

Yeah but still it has to be something, even if it were made proportionate. You don't want to stop and pay at all, even if it were 1c.

Yes but then why m50 is free if it has to be something? And I wouldn't mind so much if it was 1c as all these 70c every day add up at the end of the year.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

Johnboner

Patww79 wrote: »

I'm not sure, maybe it's because it's state controlled or something (though I'm not sure if it is still). I don't want to pay either but I have to. I don't think I should pay for a lot of things, or not pay as much at least, but I have to. That's life.

True, but if everyone was happy with the current situation regarding thing such as gay marriage then there would have never been change. Same with tolls if all motorcyclists protested somehow then maybe we would have change but since there are so few bikers in this country I doubt it would gain much momentum.

OldMrBrennan83

This post has been deleted.

GBX

Johnboner wrote: »

True, but if everyone was happy with the current situation regarding thing such as gay marriage then there would have never been change. Same with tolls if all motorcyclists protested somehow then maybe we would have change but since there are so few bikers in this country I doubt it would gain much momentum.

Theres has been negotiations with the depts, rsa etc. Did no good. As above its like you just don't want to pay

Max Headroom

From a 70c toll to gay marriage. ....am I fcuking reading this right....:rolleyes:

ratracer

The toll tag works on a motorbike, and in the express lane, despite what they tell you.

Max Headroom

If you're really that disgruntled with the charge..get your 70c in copper coins..put them in a little plastic bag (or johnny) and sit and wait till they count every last coin...:P

pillphil

I dropped €2 in the basket the other day on the n4. F*ckin barrier wouldn't open. Had to push it over my head and drive through...

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Greyson Fierce Jaguar wrote: »

Have you ever been tempted to jump the barrier on your high horse?

Oooh, touchy :P :pac:

Hey OP, I was in a similar situation recently too, Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid checkout and hold everyone up to pay a pathetic €1.99 for my chicken roll. I have seen that one of the checkouts didn't have the barrier closed so I just walked right out of the shop. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at my face so was wondering what was the fine for leaving the shop without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 21 inch face if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have a scarf covering their face, for me putting scarf on my face is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for €1.99?

Johnboner

Jameson Teeny Somebody wrote: »

Oooh, touchy :P :pac:

Hey OP, I was in a similar situation recently too, Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid checkout and hold everyone up to pay a pathetic €1.99 for my chicken roll. I have seen that one of the checkouts didn't have the barrier closed so I just walked right out of the shop. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at my face so was wondering what was the fine for leaving the shop without paying and if anyone has done it. I have a 21 inch face if that helps. I have seen some people saying they get away with it but they have a scarf covering their face, for me putting scarf on my face is probably just asking for trouble. Do they even bother chasing you up for €1.99?

*ERU kicks down Lamxaviers door*
''Sir, please come with us, you have been spotted committing heinous crimes of which the punishment usually is death, may God have mercy on your soul.
*Lamxavier tazed, pepper sprayed, shot with a shotgun using rubber bullets then thrown to the ground face first, handcuffed and brought to the Supreme Court.
Judge asks
Mr Lamxavier what say you in your defence for such unacceptable crimes?
Lamxavier: I didn't do it
Judge: Silence!!! I will not take any lies from you, off to the gas chamber, may God have mercy on your soul, hope you burn in hell for your crimes.
*Garda bring Lamxavier out of the court room and put him in the gas chamber where he suffocates from gas''
Justice has been served.

Alkers

You can buy toll cards from most toll plazas which give you 10% of journeys. They only work on one specific toll and tend not to be advertised. I'd either go for that or each day stop, select neutral, take off gloves, take wallet from backpack, pay with card / notes / coins, ask for receipt, put wallet in backpack, put on gloves and move away...

Kimbot

Johnboner wrote: »

*ERU kicks down Lamxaviers door*
''Sir, please come with us, you have been spotted committing heinous crimes of which the punishment usually is death, may God have mercy on your soul.
*Lamxavier tazed, pepper sprayed, shot with a shotgun using rubber bullets then thrown to the ground face first, handcuffed and brought to the Supreme Court.
Judge asks
Mr Lamxavier what say you in your defence for such unacceptable crimes?
Lamxavier: I didn't do it
Judge: Silence!!! I will not take any lies from you, off to the gas chamber, may God have mercy on your soul, hope you burn in hell for your crimes.
*Garda bring Lamxavier out of the court room and put him in the gas chamber where he suffocates from gas''
Justice has been served.

It would be thrown out of court for the spelling mistake alone will ya stop :P

stewygriffin

Johnboner wrote: »

That is what I am currently doing however I still find it annoying as I have to stop, I always get the 70c ready before the journey but it's the fact that I have to stop at all, I could just easily fly past the barrier through the middle but the last thing I want is cops at my house for 70c, just wondering if anyone is doing it regularly, maybe I should wait until my plate gets more dirty then do it.

Jesus wept.

Its 70 cents.You are on a motorbike,stop complaining.:pac:

stewygriffin

Max Headroom wrote: »

From a 70c toll to gay marriage. ....am I fcuking reading this right....:rolleyes:

Can you just imagine the next thread???:pac::pac::pac::D

Wossack

I blow the barrier away with my lever action shotgun, terminator 2 style

whippet

use an alternative road ... cheaper and you won't be forced to stop with all the other plebs ... all problems solved

Del2005

Johnboner wrote: »

True, but if everyone was happy with the current situation regarding thing such as gay marriage then there would have never been change. Same with tolls if all motorcyclists protested somehow then maybe we would have change but since there are so few bikers in this country I doubt it would gain much momentum.

The way to "protest" about the toll on a bike is to increase the time it takes not decrease it. Only have a €50 note, stop at the barrier and get off bike, remove gloves and get wallet out, give 50 to cashier and place change in wallet, put wallet back in pocket, replace gloves and go.

stewygriffin

Wossack wrote: »

I blow the barrier away with my lever action shotgun, terminator 2 style

stewygriffin

Del2005 wrote: »

The way to "protest" about the toll on a bike is to increase the time it takes not decrease it. Only have a €50 note, stop at the barrier and get off bike, remove gloves and get wallet out, give 50 to cashier and place change in wallet, put wallet back in pocket, replace gloves and go.

But that will be too much time and effort for the OP though,No???:pac::pac:


For me thats no biggie,take my time,chill out,hand over the money,and if a car or truck behind beeps at me,then I take even more time to put the glove back on and engage 1st gear.:D

Wossack

the surprise at the beep often makes me drop my gloves

stewygriffin

Wossack wrote: »

the surprise at the beep often makes me drop my gloves

Its terrible shocking allright.
The sudden beep from behind makes you drop a glove,then you have to put the bike on the side stand,get off the bike,bend down to pick up the glove,slowly and gently put it back on and then gently ease yourself back onto the bike and very slowly engage 1st gear and pull away.

And all because that "beep" startled you......:pac::D

king_of_inismac

70c twice a day (return trip) for a year is over 500 euro.

If you use the road, you should pay the toll like everyone else.

If you don't agree with the toll, you should protest (not just decide on your own not to pay).

If you don't want to stop, get a tag and use the express lane as suggested above.

Max Headroom

Wossack wrote: »

the surprise at the beep often makes me drop my pants

Corrected that there for ya mate...youre welcome..:)

Korat

I used commute over the M50 when it had toll booths. Pain in the ass especially on cold mornings fumbling for change with numb fingers. It was too easy to drop the coins. At the same time I had a mountain of coppers and 10c coins that I would never get around to bagging and changing so I used count out the toll fare in shrapnel and roll it in an old receipt. Much easier to handle, I could even take it out of my pocket with my glove still on while the bike rolled up to the toll booth. After a few weeks the toll people got to know me and just raised the barrier as I handed over the roll. 
Once the mountain of shrapnel was gone the novelty wore off having to roll coins in a receipt every evening but then they brought in the tags. I used put it in my pocket and pull it out as I got to the barrier. Bit tricky on a wet day but timing it right I wouldn't have to put my foot down.

Zascar

Which toll road is it exactly? If you had to take an alternative route how much longer would it take you? Time, additional petrol and cost of free time lost?

frozenfrozen

john boner you must be the most controversial motorcyclist in ireland

nearly all your previous threads are asking for hassle

"Do people get away with tiny number plates?"

"Speed vans"
'I was under the impression that bikes don't get caught by speed vans as there is no way for them to get the number plate but then I have seen someone posted that they got done by a speed van, can anyone confirm this?'

"What makes Ireland the most dangerous country in Europe"
'Why Ireland specifically is at the top?'

"Why motorcycles are unpopular in western countries"

"Passing toll barriers"
'Ok so almost every day I have to waste time at that stupid barrier and hold everyone up for the pathetic 70c toll. I have seen that I would fit through the middle of the lorry barrier as they have a gap large enough for me to fit. Now I have seen cameras from both sides looking at the number plates'

are you a wind up merchant or what? this is a quiet little section of boards usually, now I'm seeing people being baited in to argue

stewygriffin

frozenfrozen wrote: »

john boner you must be the most controversial motorcyclist in ireland

nearly all your previous threads are asking for hassle


are you a wind up merchant or what? this is a quiet little section of boards usually, now I'm seeing people being baited in to argue

Hes probably a BMW rider?

All of us BMW riders are absolute......:pac::D:P

Max Headroom

frozenfrozen wrote: »

john boner you must be the most controversial motorcyclist in ireland

nearly all your previous threads are asking for hassle


are you a wind up merchant or what? this is a quiet little section of boards usually, now I'm seeing people being baited in to argue

Seems to be a guy who has issues with the world.....I thought the same as you, likes to light the touchpaper and run...:)

Johnboner

whippet wrote: »

use an alternative road ... cheaper and you won't be forced to stop with all the other plebs ... all problems solved

The only alternative route is filled with tractors dropping cow ****e on the road from their trailers, so it would only be a matter of time before I would slip on it and fall down.