Youtube.

paleoperson

This man earns more from two of these videos than you likely do in a week of hard work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVPNkBSkFdg

This gentleman made his millions from football.... not from playing it, not from analyzing it, not even really from playing a computer game... from opening god damn FIFA 17 packs and recording his reaction to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_37rPzUb8k

Anyone still want to defend capitalism?

Arghus

It's a disgrace Joe.

somefeen

I can be proud of my weeks hard work though.

readyletsgo

So? Do it yourself and earn that money!

Cameo

Capitalism enables people to set up their own businesses, it enables people to purchase as they wish with their hard earned money, so yes, I'm happy to defend capitalism. There is certainly greed and exploitation but I don't understand why some people living in (and availing of) a free market society make out that exploitation and greed are the only components which make up capitalism.

me_irl

Cameo wrote: »

Capitalism enables people to set up their own businesses, it enables people to purchase as they wish with their hard earned money, so yes, I'm happy to defend capitalism. There is certainly greed and exploitation but I don't understand why some people living in (and availing of) a free market society make out that exploitation and greed are the only components which make up capitalism.

Word up!

Junkyard Tom

paleoperson wrote: »

Anyone still want to defend capitalism?

Capitalism? It's more like anarchism.

anarchism

belief in the abolition of all government and the organization of society on a voluntary, cooperative basis without recourse to force or compulsion

Capitalism depends on a central authority (property rights) and is arranged along hierarchical lines (corporations).

Steve

And you post them here & they get more views..

Kinda defeats your rant..

paleoperson

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Capitalism? It's more like anarchism.

Capitalism depends on a central authority (property rights) and is arranged along hierarchical lines (corporations).

It's also all about manipulation.

People literally go to school to learn manipulation and practice it their entire lives thinking it's a legitimate job.

B.A._Baracus

These channels appeal to teenagers.
But you know what, if people are willing to watch? then good for them.

There's a lot of information floating around on the net about youtube demographics. Most users are teenagers who respond to "animated personalities" aka, over the top behavior.

...And Justice

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

These channels appeal to teenagers.
But you know what, if people are willing to watch? then good for them.

There's a lot of information floating around on the net about youtube demographics. Most users are teenagers who respond to "animated personalities" aka, over the top behavior.

It's mental, my kids don't watch TV and never have, it's always been YouTube, the missus is the only one that watches the TV. New generation addicted to ipads and YouTube. Imagine the TV being portable to any location in your bag or pocket when you were a kid. Madness. And the fact you can watch what you want, whenever, none of this who shot JR tapes being flown into Ireland and being showed on the six o clock news ....then waiting for a week to watch it.

kneemos

Probably a million odd watched the Late Late Show tonight and earned RTE tens of thousands. Is it the amount of money you find objectionable or the concept of success?

...And Justice

There's a lad on YouTube called "How to basic". He's got 8.7 million subscribers, he's about ~500 videos. I would encourage posters to have a look, especially the "cheese burger pizza" that's what the world seems to love these days...

satguy

My Son gets about €40 per month from YouTube, and the same from Amazon each month.
He is only 17, but teens these days know things we don't, and I can't remember the last time I saw him watch TV.

His Channel ...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSkGhhFq5DZLhYQf7atrig/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid

...And Justice

satguy wrote: »

My Son gets about €40 per month from YouTube, and the same from Amazon each month.
He is only 17, but teens these days know things we don't, and I can't remember the last time I saw him watch TV.

His Channel ...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSkGhhFq5DZLhYQf7atrig/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid

If your son is getting €40 per month for 1990 subscribers, that means the lad I quoted above is getting ~€180,000 per month? Have I got the maths right?

satguy

...And Justice wrote: »

If your son is getting €40 per month for 1990 subscribers, that means the lad I quoted above is getting ~€180,000 per month? Have I got the maths right?

There is a guy in Athlone that is earning 8 Million a year, for just playing games.

This Guy
https://www.youtube.com/user/jacksepticeye/videos?flow=grid&view=0&sort=p

kneemos

...And Justice wrote: »

If your son is getting €40 per month for 1990 subscribers, that means the lad I quoted above is getting ~€180,000 per month? Have I got the maths right?

Mostly based on ad views rather than subscribers from what I gather. That gaming stuff is probably a goldmine for ad revenue.

darkpagandeath

If you want to earn money. It's in the old Anti SJW vids. Click bait at its finest. You don't even have to believe in what you are saying.

B.A._Baracus

...And Justice wrote: »

If your son is getting €40 per month for 1990 subscribers, that means the lad I quoted above is getting ~€180,000 per month? Have I got the maths right?

It doesn't go on subscribers actually
It roughly works out $1.50c for each 1000 views (Only a rule of thumb tho) But that is dependent on what genre your channel is or should I say what adverts will be display there. Like a video gaming youtube channel will display video game related adverts. While say a DIY youtube channel will display black and decker ads etc. Some pay more for others. The king of advertising spending is usually legal/insurance companies. So if you were pulling in a demographic of that you're 1.50c per 1000 views would be higher.



... I won't lie.... I am in the middle of setting up a YouTube channel :pac: I aint under no illusions of becoming a millionaire. Feck if you can earn rent money by just making videos then why not!

darkpagandeath

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It doesn't go on subscribers actually
It roughly works out $1.50c for each 1000 views (Only a rule of thumb tho) But that is dependent on what genre your channel is or should I say what adverts will be display there. Like a video gaming youtube channel will display video game related adverts. While say a DIY youtube channel will display black and decker ads etc. Some pay more for others. The king of advertising spending is usually legal/insurance companies. So if you were pulling in a demographic of that you're 1.50c per 1000 views would be higher.



... I won't lie.... I am in the middle of setting up a YouTube channel :pac: I aint under no illusions of becoming a millionaire. Feck if you can earn rent money by just making videos then why not!

I wish you luck, PM me the chan if you set it up. If you have flexible morals maybe focus on click bait ? Easy money for rent.

Mountainsandh

...And Justice wrote: »

It's mental, my kids don't watch TV and never have, it's always been YouTube, the missus is the only one that watches the TV. New generation addicted to ipads and YouTube. Imagine the TV being portable to any location in your bag or pocket when you were a kid. Madness. And the fact you can watch what you want, whenever, none of this who shot JR tapes being flown into Ireland and being showed on the six o clock news ....then waiting for a week to watch it.

Same here. Worst, I'm the Mrs and I don't watch tv anymore. So much so, we've cancelled our Sky, and I haven't watched TV since the day of this very toilsome phonecall.

I would absolutely not begrudge Youtubers their money.
It's a job. You can see the evolution of someone like Jack Septic Eye in retrospective videos, you can see the amount of work and learning involved along the way, how they self taught to the point where they appeal to so many youngsters.
They were clever, and the ones making big money are talented and hard working. Fair fks to them.
They replace popstars we used to look up to as teenagers, some of whom were on extravagant money too.

As a grown up it's been fascinating to see the shift in my kids (and myself and the Mr !) from TV to Youtube (and other platforms). A real societal change in a way. We're not willing to suffer TV programs simply because "there's nothing else". It's a great thing to not have to, imo.

B.A._Baracus

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I wish you luck, PM me the chan if you set it up. If you have flexible morals maybe focus on click bait ? Easy money for rent.

Thanks man
Seriously tho, anyone who is a bit tech-savy should give making YouTube videos a bash.

darkpagandeath

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Thanks man
Seriously tho, anyone who is a bit tech-savy should give making YouTube videos a bash.

It's easy, you need to be a personality.

...And Justice

In going to set up "how to basic Ireland"

Morpork

Have very recently started a gaming channel myself and I have to say it's pretty enjoyable to work on it. I love to play games anyway, but I like the idea of having something to work towards and show for it in the end.

I'm focusing on speedruns at the moment if anyone is interested please drop by.

https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCzbYc1AYBH4p-csJ5XRIlCA

B.A._Baracus

darkpagandeath wrote: »

It's easy, you need to be a personality.

Too right my good man Dial up the knob on the personality meter and record.
But it's interesting to see just how many people are making a living from YouTube. It's quite insane. It really is a wild-beast of a website.

kneemos

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

It doesn't go on subscribers actually
It roughly works out $1.50c for each 1000 views (Only a rule of thumb tho) But that is dependent on what genre your channel is or should I say what adverts will be display there. Like a video gaming youtube channel will display video game related adverts. While say a DIY youtube channel will display black and decker ads etc. Some pay more for others. The king of advertising spending is usually legal/insurance companies. So if you were pulling in a demographic of that you're 1.50c per 1000 views would be higher.



... I won't lie.... I am in the middle of setting up a YouTube channel :pac: I aint under no illusions of becoming a millionaire. Feck if you can earn rent money by just making videos then why not!

Doesn't seem very profitable,as a hobby fair enough,but as an income?? How many videos even get 10,000 views.

everlast75

me_irl wrote: »

Word up!

You had to go and make a Cameo appearance

silverharp

satguy wrote: »

My Son gets about €40 per month from YouTube, and the same from Amazon each month.
He is only 17, but teens these days know things we don't, and I can't remember the last time I saw him watch TV.

His Channel ...
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVSkGhhFq5DZLhYQf7atrig/videos?sort=p&view=0&flow=grid

Ive noticed that with my son he doesnt watch TV , I need to have a movie night just to watch the odd movie. TV stations are fcked in the future unless there will be lots of money in chairlift adverts. Frankly Im looking forward to when they pull the plug on outfits like RTE and the Irish Times.

kneemos

silverharp wrote: »

Ive noticed that with my son he doesnt watch TV , I need to have a movie night just to watch the odd movie. TV stations are fcked in the future unless there will be lots of money in chairlift adverts. Frankly Im looking forward to when they pull the plug on outfits like RTE and the Irish Times.

Sad day for journalism in fairness. RTE have done some fantastic stuff in recent years.

...And Justice

kneemos wrote: »

Sad day for journalism in fairness. RTE have done some fantastic stuff in recent years.

The best thing to come out of RTE was reeling in the years, the rest is garbage.

Mountainsandh

I don't think it needs sound the death knell for good work though. Simply offer it online on various platforms. Either way nowadays, people can record and watch programs at a more convenient time, so what's the difference ?

Other than people "accidentally" watching something before or after the one TV program they were interested in.
The accidental dimension can still happen if you're on the platform and you glimpse something else that looks interesting.

9or10

...And Justice wrote: »

The best thing to come out of RTE was reeling in the years, the rest is garbage.

and Nationwide

R P McMurphy

kneemos wrote: »

Sad day for journalism in fairness. RTE have done some fantastic stuff in recent years.

Not in terms of return for investment. €160 per year per household. Scale it back and have a public broadcasting service for €20.

Mountainsandh

9or10 wrote: »

and Nationwide

The local, small scale programs are the ones I'd miss the most. They're the ones hard to come by if you watch online. The Irish TV had some local programs like that by counties too didn't it ?
Ear to the Ground has that quality too.

I guess it's up to RTE & co to have the wherewithal to provide more local scale or local interest stuff, instead of paying empty money for empty programs that can be watched elsewhere anyway.

What can I not watch on RTE, that I get from people's crappy phone videos on Facebook ? Give me bits of that in locally targetted programs then.

Like, kids matches, some gig in a pub, the local charity/talent show, the local tractor run, the summer festival ... something about a crime at small scale.

kneemos

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Not in terms of return for investment. €160 per year per household. Scale it back and have a public broadcasting service for €20.

The only ones with the money left to do any sort of investigative journalism.The output is crap but they do have their moments in that regard.

R P McMurphy

kneemos wrote: »

The only ones with the money left to do any sort of investigative journalism.The output is crap but they do have their moments in that regard.

I accept that point given the impact of the investigative programme they ran during the week. I didn't see it but am aware that it forced the government's hand to speed up opening of health services. Is a good platform for such issues. But those are what it should be focused on. The purchase of programmes originating outside of the state seems pointless.

satguy

If you have good internet speed, and maybe a Netflix sub, then the big TV in the corner is only for news and the odd match..

I use a 40 inch 1080p TV as my PC Monitor, and have the best of both worlds, and the wife can watch all the soaps as long as she stays downstairs.

Elemonator

I like hard work, gives me a sense of meaning and achievement. Meanwhile, YouTube won't be there in a few decades to support this lot.

And your dignity is intact with the day job too

andekwarhola

After having to listen to my two kids on (the kid version of) of YT, I can safely say that if I ever meet Dan TDM, I will rip his larynx out with my bare f&cking hands.

Agricola

Pewdiepie popped up in my recommended list recently so I had a look after years of defiantly avoided all that shíte.
Now that he's set for life he seems to have toned down the nonsense and is making the odd existential video about the tropes of youtubers and how having to conform to that started to get to him in the end.

Saw another interesting vid explaining how these people cleverly manipulate young viewers into sub'ing and staying with them through the use of fast cut editing, shifting perspective, loud obnoxious speaking volume interspersed with quiet moments. It's essentially the same as a baby's mobile, never let them get bored for a moment, keep the attention on you with as much flashing lights and noises as possible. The Jackseptic eye guy must need to pop a box a parcetamol and go lie down in a dark room after listening to himself all day, then having to edit it!

Weird phenomenon but it is what is it. Personally, can't stand the FIFA idiots bragging about their lambo's etc. Don't begrudge them at all, they were smart enough to see the opening and took it. But when you see young lads that self absorbed, living like monte carlo playboys off the back of recording themselves opening packs on Fifa, then think about all the people in society who do important work for very little pay, it's just deeply sickening imo.

Temptamperu

If its so easy and these lads are getting money from nothing, why dont you try OP?

B.A._Baracus

kneemos wrote: »

Doesn't seem very profitable,as a hobby fair enough,but as an income?? How many videos even get 10,000 views.

You'd be surprised how many people make money off it. Forget about the heavyweights like pewdiepie and others. But a lot of people actually make a living from there. It's not easy but YouTube is such a large beast of a website with so many genres of videos.

But a lot of people make the mistake of looking at the cpm ($1.50 per 1000 views) and think a channel does not make money while it actually does.

Most people make money from having a library of videos. Say 100 videos you created over 3 years. Not to mention patreon these days.

J Mysterio

silverharp wrote: »

Ive noticed that with my son he doesnt watch TV , I need to have a movie night just to watch the odd movie. TV stations are fcked in the future unless there will be lots of money in chairlift adverts. Frankly Im looking forward to when they pull the plug on outfits like RTE and the Irish Times.

What?!?!

Wanting RTE out is weird enough but the Irish Times? It's the only newspaper of quality in the country. We need quality reporting now more than ever with the rise of the far right and fake news.

Agent_47

Prefer the crazy Russian hacker / Tarus Kul as he has two channels, the greedy git

satguy

There are 4 ways to earn money from a video you post to Youtube.

1. The vid has a pre roll ad, visitors watch the ad and you earn about $1.50 per 1000 views (Tech stuff slightly more)

2. Your vid is an old vid maybe posted last year, but it is ranked highly by YT and turns up high on page search results. (if you have 200 old vids they can still earn alot, if YT see them as having value.)

3. You are also signed up as an affiliate to somewhere like Amazon, so you post some affiliate links in the comments under your vid. ( Amazon pay very well, you start off at 3% and if you reach your target are moved to 7%)

4. Someone asks you to do a review of one of their products. ( Mostly only Big Youtubers)

Some of the big Tech youtubers can earn more from affiliate links than what YT might pay them for ads..

Most youtubers have a website also that feeds visitors to view their vids, its a good way to send more eyeballs to your channel.

My son ownes http://www.teknoshark.com/

Teens these days know all the tricks..

KKkitty

They do make money no doubt about that but it must get tiring making those videos. Having to act excited about everything you're unboxing or playing at all times practically too. I like jacksepticeye though. He seems natural on YouTube. They have to upgrade cameras and microphones every once and a while also. A lot have multiple screens too for their videos depending on what they're doing.

Mountainsandh

KKkitty wrote: »

They do make money no doubt about that but it must get tiring making those videos. Having to act excited about everything you're unboxing or playing at all times practically too. I like jacksepticeye though. He seems natural on YouTube. They have to upgrade cameras and microphones every once and a while also. A lot have multiple screens too for their videos depending on what they're doing.

Yeah it's a real job I'd say.
Planning, preparation, scripting to an extent, acting/performing, then editing and publishing.

These guys who make money treat it as a proper job, and along with a bit of talent, manage to make a career out of it. Good for them. They created a job, and it's successful because there's a demand for the performances. I don't see how they can be begrudged.

They're just like the boy/girlbands of yesteryear.

I'm in my 40s, but I love Rhett and Link and the Good Mythical Morning shows

KKkitty

Mountainsandh wrote: »

Yeah it's a real job I'd say.
Planning, preparation, scripting to an extent, acting/performing, then editing and publishing.

These guys who make money treat it as a proper job, and along with a bit of talent, manage to make a career out of it. Good for them. They created a job, and it's successful because there's a demand for the performances. I don't see how they can be begrudged.

They're just like the boy/girlbands of yesteryear.

I'm in my 40s, but I love Rhett and Link and the Good Mythical Morning shows

A fellow Irish Mythical Beast!! I love it Their shows are quite good. They're not afraid to try stuff out.

Call Me Jimmy

Agricola wrote: »

Weird phenomenon but it is what is it. Personally, can't stand the FIFA idiots bragging about their lambo's etc. Don't begrudge them at all, they were smart enough to see the opening and took it. But when you see young lads that self absorbed, living like monte carlo playboys off the back of recording themselves opening packs on Fifa, then think about all the people in society who do important work for very little pay, it's just deeply sickening imo.

Luck of the dice

Your Face

Fair play.