A chance to colonise...

Galway_Old_Man

Consider the scenario. A somewhat stable wormhole appears 2km off the coast of Canada, at a height of roughly 100m above sea level. After huge amounts of media buzz and scientific study, the wormhole is determined to be fixed on our end but the end destination changes. It does so in a periodic yet slow manner, each planet comes up again every 5 years. This is the same for all planets as a starting point.

After years of study, the door is thrown open to volunteers to colonise new worlds. Due to the huge amount of hospitable planets, it's fairly lax as to who goes through. You don't need the credentials of an astronaut. Would you go?

It's be a great chance to prove yourself but at the cost of losing regular contact with home, having a smaller pool from which to build a social circle and find a a mate, the hardship of setting up a new colony and the unknown dangers...

Solomon Pleasant

I'm not sure what you've been smoking but it must be seriously good stuff!

gramar

I'd only go if it's Uranus.

Boom_Bap

What's the wifi like?

relax carry on

Send Mcgyver first, he'll sort out any pesky ailens.

brevity

Tis far from wormholes I was raised.

Liamalone

Is there a KFC there?

Galway_Old_Man

gramar wrote: »

I'd only go if it's Uranus.

Initial studies suggest that only one wormhole exists per solar system. Sol's is taken.

You allude to a good point though, that naming of places will be up for grabs.

Boom_Bap wrote: »

What's the wifi like?

Once every five years, the colony will be broadcast a huge data dump from Earth containing all the major events in news, sport and media, emails/messages from loved ones along with all the internet memes.

Apart from that, local networks on the colony will be established but mainly used for sensor gathering and instrumentation calibration.

Skylinehead

relax carry on wrote: »

Send Mcgyver first, he'll sort out any pesky ailens.

Indeed

ScumLord

Planets around other stars that are alive like ours are probably going to be so alien to our own that it's completely incompatible with life from our planet.

Something that I didn't realise is that they may not even use DNA, that's just the coding system that happened to pop up on our planet, it could be a completely different style of code elsewhere. That's allows for a massive difference.

These planets could be even more dangerous than a barren planet if the life on it is toxic or actively trying to kill us all the way down to the microbial level.

The other option is that our life is so toxic to the life on that planet, our life could decimate the local fauna and take over entirely. Creating a highly toxic environment.


I certainly wouldn't want to be the first through the gate, and I'm beginning to think that the whole idea of colonising other planets is going to be unworkable no matter how advanced we get.

Boom_Bap

So I've to sift through 5 years worth of news and wait for it to download as well?

What's the pizza situation?

artanevilla

How much is a pint?

The_Valeyard

relax carry on wrote: »

Send Mcgyver first, he'll sort out any pesky ailens.

Jaffa, Kree!!

Galway_Old_Man

ScumLord wrote: »

Planets around other stars that are alive like ours are probably going to be so alien to our own that it's completely incompatible with life from our planet.

Not the case. The scientists discovered that most (65%) of the habitable worlds are entirely compatible for our needs. As this point, human bodies have had an immune system nanobot boost too btw.

This discovery has caused significant debate in the wider community. Many point to the ease with which humans can go through and survive, and the sheer regularity of the wormhole, as indications that the phenomena is of intelligent origin. Of those who subscribe to this, many are split between the divine and the extra-solar... Others say it's a result of panspermia and convergent evolution.

Also any planet you go to will have scoped out by a probe and approved by UN committee.

MonkieSocks

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Also any planet you go to will have scoped out by a probe and approved by UN committee.

So you gonna probe and scope Uranus :eek:

Zebra3

Liamalone wrote: »

Is there a KFC there?

Somebody already asked about Uranus.

biko

Arrgh, Canada is so far away. Can't the wormhole be closer?

Mr. FoggPatches

Some 5 year old would cut the wormhole in two to see if it would turn into two wormholes.

Noddyholder

Can ya collect the dole there ?

Zubeneschamali

First I want to know more about the giant space worm that made the hole.

darkpagandeath

Could a wormhole actually exist in a planetary atmosphere ? I know the physics involved is quite complicated. But would the earths atmosphere not be transported to the other end ?

Galway_Old_Man

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Could a wormhole actually exist in a planetary atmosphere ? I know the physics involved is quite complicated. But would the earths atmosphere not be transported to the other end ?

Excellent question. This is still under study.

Galway_Old_Man

biko wrote: »

Arrgh, Canada is so far away. Can't the wormhole be closer?

The Eastern seaboard of Canada has seen a massive boom with wormhole related activity. So much so that independence movements are again pushing for self rule. Currently lots of people wonder if the anomaly's location has something to do with its proximity to the North Pole and will it relocate in the event of a pole shift?

Boom_Bap

I ate a curry one time that was from a dodgy place I also ate a microwave meal in the same day. My farts the next day blew a hole in my boxers.
Based on that practical experience I can safely say that a worm hole is possible.

#science

pxdf9i5cmoavkz

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

It's be a great chance to prove yourself but at the cost of losing regular contact with home, having a smaller pool from which to build a social circle and find a a mate, the hardship of setting up a new colony and the unknown dangers...

Since this is an interesting question, I'll answer it as best I can.

You did not mention if only people are able to go through the worm hole, so I'll assume that the pioneers are able to move building material through as well. This also assumes that us humans are still able to breath on said planet.

Moving on,

Firstly, I would be fine with losing regular contact with "Earth" so that would not be a problem.

The first major problem comes from the amount of people required to make it sustainable. Some studies suggest that a mere 160 people are required to start a civilization although I find this hard to believe. The amount of care to not inbreed will be difficult to accomplish. Other studies suggest at minimum 10,000 to ensure genetic stability.

Even with 10,000 people all moving to the other side, we would still need a plan and a group of people who understand the common goal. I'd be wary of just anyone tagging along, the last thing you want are free loaders and/or clashing cultures.

This is a difficult one but the first group would need to be slightly more males than females. Since males are expendable and the females of the group can easily replenish the population with the remaining males.

With that sorted, it's off to our new planet!

Since we are still human and our bodies need food / water. My first priority will be to order the discovery of those two things and build around it.

Then we'll need to build some form of structures so that when the portal swings by my planet again, the Earthlings will see that I've made it and more people will come over. After passing strict background checks of course

In a few years time my new planet and civilization will be blossoming and people will be calling me Supreme Leader Jason of the Grand Planet Jason!

I cannot wait.

murpho999

Trump will send all Mexicans and muslims. Chaos will ensue.

ScumLord

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Not the case. The scientists discovered that most (65%) of the habitable worlds are entirely compatible for our needs. As this point, human bodies have had an immune system nanobot boost too btw.

Well, not exactly. They've discovered planets roughly the same distance from their sun as ours is, so it's possible they could have liquid water on the surface which makes life more likely. I don't think they can say whether the planets have a magnetosphere to stop the sun blasting the atmosphere off the planet.

What you have to take into account is the fact life on this planet made the atmosphere as it is today with some help from volcanoes. Oxygen was first pumped into the atmosphere by a bacteria. Without them life wouldn't have happened the way it happened. It could have been stuck without a fuel. What if they never figured out how to photosynthesize? What if they can't burn oxygen? What if the planets mostly bacteria like creatures? What if nothing there produces oxygen?

And again, just because the planets in the right place doesn't mean the life on it is going to be anything like earth. Like I said, the basic fundamental building blocks of life on that planet could be radically different. The code could be so different we might as well be on mars for all the good the local life would do us. We may not be able to process the proteins, drink the water, or breath the air.

We'd likely be looking at eradicating the indigenous life to make way for our own.

SEPT 23 1989

Mariah Microscopic Slider wrote: »

Since this is an interesting question, I'll answer it as best I can.

You did not mention if only people are able to go through the worm hole, so I'll assume that the pioneers are able to move building material through as well. This also assumes that us humans are still able to breath on said planet.

Moving on,

Firstly, I would be fine with losing regular contact with "Earth" so that would not be a problem.

The first major problem comes from the amount of people required to make it sustainable. Some studies suggest that a mere 160 people are required to start a civilization although I find this hard to believe. The amount of care to not inbreed will be difficult to accomplish. Other studies suggest at minimum 10,000 to ensure genetic stability.

Even with 10,000 people all moving to the other side, we would still need a plan and a group of people who understand the common goal. I'd be wary of just anyone tagging along, the last thing you want are free loaders and/or clashing cultures.

This is a difficult one but the first group would need to be slightly more males than females. Since males are expendable and the females of the group can easily replenish the population with the remaining males.

With that sorted, it's off to our new planet!

Since we are still human and our bodies need food / water. My first priority will be to order the discovery of those two things and build around it.

Then we'll need to build some form of structures so that when the portal swings by my planet again, the Earthlings will see that I've made it and more people will come over. After passing strict background checks of course

In a few years time my new planet and civilization will be blossoming and people will be calling me Supreme Leader Jason of the Grand Planet Jason!

I cannot wait.

weldoninhio

relax carry on wrote: »

Send Mcgyver first, he'll sort out any pesky ailens.

The old McGyver though, not the new terrible one.

Galway_Old_Man

ScumLord wrote: »

Well, not exactly.

I'm talking about the scientists who have been studying the wormhole and its collected data. They're the ones who came up with the 65% figure. It's of the planets that appear as end points.

You can't argue with them.

ScumLord

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

I'm talking about the scientists who have been studying the wormhole and its collected data. They're the ones who came up with the 65% figure. It's of the planets that appear as end points.

You can't argue with them.

OK. While it's not impossible for two or more planets to somehow end up doing everything exactly the same way so they end up compatible given the size of the universe, it could be unlikely.

If the wormhole has somehow also selected these planets from around the universe I'd start to wonder if there's something in control of the wormhole and what their intention is. It's a lot of effort to go to for people you've never interacted with.

Widdershins

I'd like to stay behind on good old Earth. It'll be nice and quiet after everyone's decamped to wherever it is.

soups05

ah hell no, am not falling for that one again. Thats how I ended up on this damn planet in the first place.

it'll be grand they said, sure they are just like us.


your all fking nuts, i can't wait to get back home to the real earth.




hhhhhmmmmmmm, did i say too much???

Badly Drunk Boy

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Consider the scenario. A somewhat stable wormhole appears 2km off the coast of Canada, at a height of roughly 100m above sea level.

I bet the Canadians only managed to get the wormhole because of all the sci-fi that's made there, especially Stargate.

relax carry on wrote: »

Send Mcgyver first, he'll sort out any pesky ailens.

weldoninhio wrote: »

The old McGyver though, not the new terrible one.

It's the Jack O'Neill version of Richard Dean Anderson we need. And no harm having a few Irish names involved.

pxdf9i5cmoavkz

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Esel

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Consider the scenario. A somewhat stable wormhole appears 2km off the coast of Canada, at a height of roughly 100m above sea level. After huge amounts of media buzz and scientific study, the wormhole is determined to be fixed on our end but the end destination changes. It does so in a periodic yet slow manner, each planet comes up again every 5 years. This is the same for all planets as a starting point.

After years of study, the door is thrown open to volunteers to colonise new worlds. Due to the huge amount of hospitable planets, it's fairly lax as to who goes through. You don't need the credentials of an astronaut. Would you go?

It's be a great chance to prove yourself but at the cost of losing regular contact with home, having a smaller pool from which to build a social circle and find a a mate, the hardship of setting up a new colony and the unknown dangers...

Maybe if it was a hospital planet...

foxy farmer

Sorry. You want me to go up a worms hole is it?
Chrisht I'll never fit in there.
https://youtu.be/j8v8jUAKu-8

Mister Vain

Will Matthew McConaughey be there?

Mongfinder General

gramar wrote: »

I'd only go if it's Uranus.

You'd better watch out for the Klingons near Uranus.

jimmy blevins

A Stargate in a pyramid would be lot more practical than wormhole.

Galway_Old_Man

jimmy blevins wrote: »

A Stargate in a pyramid would be lot more practical than wormhole.

Yeah but if you're to get all logical then how come in Stargate Command they have the lads with guns in front of the Gate. Surely it would make more sense to have a couple of 50 cals to the side, where someone exiting the wormhole couldn't immediately fire upon. I mean c'mon. I hope someone was fired over that.

jamesbere

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

Yeah but if you're to get all logical then how come in Stargate Command they have the lads with guns in front of the Gate. Surely it would make more sense to have a couple of 50 cals to the side, where someone exiting the wormhole couldn't immediately fire upon. I mean c'mon. I hope someone was fired over that.

Here you go

Galway_Old_Man

That's still at a angle. I meant something like this

.......................[++GATE++]..
=50 cal ==>........kill zone...
=50 cal ==>........kill zone...

Anything comes through and is immediately torn to bits from the side.

fizzypish

Galway_Old_Man wrote: »

That's still at a angle. I meant something like this

.......................[++GATE++]..
=50 cal ==>........kill zone...
=50 cal ==>........kill zone...

Anything comes through and is immediately torn to bits from the side.

Depends if what comes through gives a tuppenny **** about bullets.

relax carry on

fizzypish wrote: »

Depends if what comes through gives a tuppenny **** about bullets.

So sad that I know or care about this. Making me laugh though.

Capt'n Midnight

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

First I want to know more about the giant space worm that made the hole.

Shai-Hulud /ˈʃaɪ hᵿˈluːd/[2] (Arabic: شَؾْء خُلُود‎‎ shay' khulūd, meaning "a thing of eternity")

DanielODonnell

No could you imagine how atheist the new planet would be