Allocate 4 Cycling Protest Department of Transport 22nd February 1pm

LpPepper

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/huge-cycling-protest-urging-better-resources-to-descend-on-dail/

Meeting point: Department of Transport 12.45pm for 1pm start - cycle to the Dáil.

Glass Prison 1214

LpPepper wrote: »

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/huge-cycling-protest-urging-better-resources-to-descend-on-dail/

Meeting point: Department of Transport 12.45pm for 1pm start - cycle to the Dáil.

1pm on a Wednesday, seriously?

No one will be able to make that. It needs to be outside working hours.

magicbastarder

when there's no one in the department?

Moflojo

Glass Prison 1214 wrote: »

1pm on a Wednesday, seriously?

No one will be able to make that. It needs to be outside working hours.

Daylight issues were the main concern due to the time of year. The campaign has suggested there will be further protests later in the year and these will be in the evenings or at weekends.

Moflojo

Deedsie wrote: »

I commend your efforts but a ridiculous decision on the time. I had definitely intended attending the next protest. Not much chance now, can't really head out of the office for a protest at lunchtime.

There are, and will be, other ways to get involved so don't despair. Please help to spread the word of the upcoming event whether you can be there yourself or not. Share the Facebook event if you use Facebook. Tick that you're 'Interested' even if you're not 'Going'. The official hashtag for the protest is #allocate4cycling so use that to engage with any Twitter conversations.

Corca Baiscinn

It would be great it cyclists didn't knock the protest just because the time doesn't suit them personally. There are enough people out there in the big bad world and on Boards threads too ready to denigrate cyclists and cycling. Was it Benjamin Franklin who is supposed to have said that we must all hang together or we will all hang separately? As Moflojo said there will be other protests during the year. Holdng one after office hours this time of year creates the issue of asking people to cycle in a group in the dark and get home afterwards. A weekend date means that many commuters are not in town with their bikes. Some people who work near the city centre will be free at lunchtime or have some flexibility over their hours. Others work shifts involving different hours/days so may well be free at lunchtime on a Wednesday. if you are not available wish them well as they protest on behalf of us all and as Moflojo says (and I don't know him/her) spread the word in person and on social media. BTW it's my understanding that the protest will be quite short to allow for the fact that people have to get back to work.

cdaly_

Also, bring your lunch...

tomasrojo

I have to pick up the kids after school, and the eldest finishes at two pm, so the best I'll be able to do is make the very end of the protest. I'll try though.

buffalo

I'm going to try make it over in the limited time that my lunch-hour allows.

Chuchote

Gave out a rake of leaflets for this to people passing through Terenure and environs today.

AndrewJRenko

Weepsie wrote: »

There's a thread in AH about this now. Whereas I dont agree with some of the aspects of the campaign, I do of course want to encourage better facilities, better awareness from motorists and cyclists etc etc


Threads like that one are the sh!te that don't helpt.

http://www.boards.ie/thread/2057707756/1

Link broken - did it get canned?

PeadarCo

Mrs OBumble wrote:

Four wheels bad, two wheels good?

It's more a case of bikes and public transport are far more efficient at transporting people in urban areas when compared to single occupancy cars. If you want to transport more people in and out of Dublin city centre your going to end up favouring stuff like bikes and buses.

You also need to have a joined up plan that links everything together including private motorists. But joined up thinking isn't something you'd associated with Dublin urban planning. I pity anyone who has no other option but to drive in the city centre.

Beasty

Deedsie wrote: »

I moved my lunch so I can run out for a while anyway.

Well if Storm Doris delivers a decent downpour tomorrow why not nip out in swimming gear and complete your transition.....



:pac:

magicbastarder

maybe lunchtime was the best time to pick:

a brief, potentially disruptive, spell of weather imminent late Wednesday and early Thursday.

ED E

With the winds on tonights commute it might be a good idea to call it off, those gusts really arent great.

tomasrojo

My original plan of picking up the kids from school and going along late is out, because it's actually mid-term break. They're in camp and a long way from the city centre, relatively speaking, and camp finishes at two. Not looking good for me.

Moflojo

tomasrojo wrote: »

My original plan of picking up the kids from school and going along late is out, because it's actually mid-term break. They're in camp and a long way from the city centre, relatively speaking, and camp finishes at two. Not looking good for me.

Sounds like the perfect scenario for an ITT.

Annie get your Run

I'm hoping to be there if the rain holds off (3 soakings on the bike in one day doesn't really appeal to me!)

Rogue-Trooper

Was all set to go but can't get out of work now

AndrewJRenko

tomasrojo wrote: »

My original plan of picking up the kids from school and going along late is out, because it's actually mid-term break. They're in camp and a long way from the city centre, relatively speaking, and camp finishes at two. Not looking good for me.

I'll have to leave early too, but try to come along for some of it. Every little helps.

tomasrojo

It's the other way round though; I have to work in the morning and I'm free in the afternoon, but it'll be nearly three by the time I get into town.

godtabh

Feck all people there

godtabh

Feck all people there

Shedite27

godtabh wrote: »

Feck all people there

Looks like 5,000 the way protest crowds are calculated

robyntmorton

Shedite27 wrote: »

Looks like 5,000 the way protest crowds are calculated

Or 5,000,000 the way inauguration crowds are calculated!

godtabh

Deedsie wrote: »

I was there, was a good crowd for a lunch time protest and the weather was poor.

Any organisers on here, thanks for organising it. Hopefully the message will get to the powers that be that change is needed.

The weather wasnt poor

Annie get your Run

I got there a bit late and it seemed to breaking up at that point but glad I made it anyway. Thanks to the organisers too. Would like to see something like a moving protest up the quays some evening at 5pm or something. It would certainly highlight the lack of safe cycling infrastructure on the Quays!

godtabh

Deedsie wrote: »

What is your problem? It was a lunchtime protest. The weather was drizzly, some people wont want to go out and get wet and then go back into the office.

It wasnt a successful outing in my book an excuses like bad weather, lunch time doesnt sugar coat it.

beauf

I couldn't get to it. heard about it too late to change my plans. I know of no one (other than boardies) who even knew it was on today. They publicize these events very badly.

Chuchote

Weather was pretty nice, a tiny bit of soft mizzle and otherwise fresh and lovely. I wouldn't say feck all - maybe 200 to 250. Not the thousand or so that were out in October, but enough to stretch from Leeson Lane to Kildare Street in one bell-ringing group four or five abreast.

qb123

Lunchtime just doesn't work for a lot of people whether due to little time, meetings before or after, trouble to get there and back. Last one held after work time more successful - they should do it at that time again. (Went then, wasn't able today as meeting at lunchtime)

nomoreexams

beauf wrote: »

I couldn't get to it. heard about it too late to change my plans. I know of no one (other than boardies) who even knew it was on today. They publicize these events very badly.

If you like Sticky Bottle or cyclist.ie on Facebook they'll keep you up to date

Andy Magic

Chuchote wrote: »

Weather was pretty nice, a tiny bit of soft mizzle and otherwise fresh and lovely. I wouldn't say feck all - maybe 200 to 250. Not the thousand or so that were out in October, but enough to stretch from Leeson Lane to Kildare Street in one bell-ringing group four or five abreast.

Media are reporting several hundred attended

beauf

nomoreexams wrote: »

If you like Sticky Bottle or cyclist.ie on Facebook they'll keep you up to date

I'm one of those weirdo's who rarely uses social media like face ache. Too much noise.

average_runner

Didn't make the news front page on RTE.ie.

Need to step it up or cycle up:)

tomasrojo

Andy Magic wrote: »

Media are reporting several hundred attended

Not sure whether there was adept expectation handling, but the media anticipated a few hundred as well, so sounds as good as can be expected, given the time of day.

I just couldn't make it. The timings were all wrong. Will try hard to get to the next one. Especially if it's in the afternoon.

beauf

The Journal.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-cycling-protest-3252960-Feb2017/

I expect the Indo will either not cover it, or report some anti cycling agenda.

average_runner

beauf wrote: »

The Journal.

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-cycling-protest-3252960-Feb2017/

I expect the Indo will either not cover it, or report some anti cycling agenda.

Times, examiner, rte, independent or breaking news does not have it in the main viewing screen.

Tesco strike is though

nomoreexams

beauf wrote: »

I'm one of those weirdo's who rarely uses social media like face ache. Too much noise.

HA Faceache, i love it. Fair enough, I guess that would make it more difficult to keep up to date. We'll have to start sending you updates by pigeon

hytrogen

godtabh wrote:

Feck all people there

Well done all

Deedsie wrote:

What is your problem? It was a lunchtime protest. The weather was drizzly, some people wont want to go out and get wet and then go back into the office.

Ah the Goldilocked keyboard warriors..

beauf wrote:

I expect the Indo will either not cover it, or report some anti cycling agenda.

Unless there's crustys, hoodies the ra or an ambulance to chase they won't even lift a pen these days.

Shedite27

beauf wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-cycling-protest-3252960-Feb2017/

Campain to make cycling safer - half the crowd photographed not wearing helmets :rolleyes:

Fair play to those who organised it

beauf

nomoreexams wrote: »

HA Faceache, i love it. Fair enough, I guess that would make it more difficult to keep up to date. We'll have to start sending you updates by pigeon

The problem with faceache is that there is no way to filter the crud from the useful. Even sites with good intentions, with not a lot of content tend to go the route of filler, on faceache. So you get hundreds of updates and buried in the middle is something useful. Not to mentions friends with way too much time on their hands.

Too much hassle.

beauf

average_runner wrote: »

Times, examiner, rte, independent or breaking news does not have it in the main viewing screen.

Tesco strike is though

‘Sexting’ now customary among young people, charity warns...

I can see why it was bumped....

magicbastarder

Shedite27 wrote: »

Campain to make cycling safer - half the crowd photographed not wearing helmets :rolleyes:

hytrogen

Yesterdayfm having a discussion on passing cyclists at 1.5m

beauf

Shedite27 wrote: »

Campain to make cycling safer - half the crowd photographed not wearing helmets :rolleyes: Fair play to those who organised it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMv3OB6XHvQ

OMG

Moflojo

For those who weren't able to make it to the protest today, but who still want to support the cause, there's a petition that you can sign here:

https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/allocate-10-of-the-national-transport-budget-to-cycling

magicbastarder

i assume a FG leadership contest will result in a reshuffle. would be interesting to see if leo, simon, or simon would leave ross in his seat.

Chuchote

magicbastarder wrote: »

i assume a FG leadership contest will result in a reshuffle. would be interesting to see if leo, simon, or simon would leave ross in his seat.

There's also the question of whether an FG leadership contest would leave FG in the driving seat… and considering that FF have come out against Ross's drink-driving policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ross-drink-driving-crackdown-to-be-blocked-by-fianna-f%C3%A1il-1.2984149

they wouldn't be a good alternative - never mind their vicious backing of an obviously unsustainable bank and construction bubble when they were last in power.

And Sinn Fein - well, to my mind, putting them in would be replacing lemmings with starving hyenas eager to spread the goodies to as many of their own clientele as possible… purely my gut instinct, that, mind…

average_runner

Chuchote wrote: »

There's also the question of whether an FG leadership contest would leave FG in the driving seat… and considering that FF have come out against Ross's drink-driving policy

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/ross-drink-driving-crackdown-to-be-blocked-by-fianna-f%C3%A1il-1.2984149

they wouldn't be a good alternative - never mind their vicious backing of an obviously unsustainable bank and construction bubble when they were last in power.

And Sinn Fein - well, to my mind, putting them in would be replacing lemmings with starving hyenas eager to spread the goodies to as many of their own clientele as possible… purely my gut instinct, that, mind…

They will promise us the world and take our money.

Corca Baiscinn

https://www.todayfm.com/The-Last-Word-with-Matt-Cooper

THE LAST WORD WITH MATT COOPER - WIDENING THE GAP BETWEEN MOTORISTS AND CYCLISTS

I thought it was a really good discussion, a refreshing change from Geoge Hook, Pat Kenny et al. Ciaran Cannon was excellent at explaining the thinking behind the Bill and good support from Damien O Tuama of cyclist.ie. the third guest from Institute of Advanced Motorists was ok but strayed off the point a bit.