Ed Sheeran, am i missing something?

somefeen

Heckler wrote: »

If you think Ed Sheeran is a talented songwriter go listen to Nick Cave and realise how wrong you are. And no its not subjective or an opinion. Compared to Nick Cave Sheerans lyrics are beyond piss.

"I'd crawl over fifty good pussys just to get to one fat boys asshole". Stagger Lee.

Not even in the same universe of songwriting.

A song like Caves "Millhaven" has more intricate, rhyming and savage lyrics in one song than many artists have in a whole album.

Whether you like Cave or not his songwriting is beyond reproach. His singing and the Bad Seeds isn't for everyone but pretty much any song from the Murder Ballads would put most songwriters today to shame. (and thats without touching his other works)

I fear the noose and I fear the stake, for there ain't a bone they did not break



Thats how its done.

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Even as a big Nick Cave fan I don't think its a fair comparison.
Ed Sheeran writes pop music that is supposed to be played in the background. Nick Cave writes mental **** that your supposed to actually sit down and listen to.
They're different genres.

A fairer comparison, in my opinion would be someone like KT Tunstall or even Lilly Allen.

I'm not a fan of Ed Sheeran either but there is something unpretentious and fun about his writing. An actual lyric from 'A team' is '...crumbling like pastries...' which is more like something from an 80's hip hop track.

Heckler

Fair comparison is fair.

People touting Sheeran as a good songwriter. Hes not.

I don't think his fans would consider his music as something to be played "in the backgound".

I don't particulary like Dylan, Leonard Cohen or Shane McGowan but by God they can write a song. As can Cave. People may not like the delivery of that song but thats down to taste.

And it is all down to taste. If you like Ed Sheeran knock yourself out and enjoy. But to say he's a decent songwriter is not true.

Robineen

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

No offense to yourself good Sir but Nick Cave is shite.

Why do people say 'No offence', seriously? Tacking on a disclaimer at the beginning does not negate any offence the following statement might cause.

slovakchick

ronnie085 wrote: »

Average singer, average songwriter, go as far as saying he'd struggle to fill the local based on talent (in my opinion) yet he is one of the biggest deals at the moment. Victory for the PR hype machine? He's kinda Irish you know

like niall horan

Robineen

Robineen wrote: »

Why do people say 'No offence', seriously? Tacking on a disclaimer at the beginning does not negate any offence the following statement might cause.

He's just pointing out that the offence isn't intended for the poster, it's entirely directed at Nick Cave.

In any case, being a good songwriter means more than being a good lyricist. That would count Nick Cave out, imo.

Robineen

Basil3 wrote: »

He's just pointing out that the offence isn't intended for the poster, it's entirely directed at Nick Cave.

Nah, he was pretty much sh1tting on the other poster's opinion, apparently unaware that one's opinion can't be wrong.

thunderdog

We've had peak iPhone, then peak ikea. Have we now reached peak ed sheeran?

Seems like he has at least 3 tunes on the radio at the moment. Don't get me wrong, he has some catchy tunes, but a bit of variety wouldn't go amiss.

Im convinced there are also a minimum of 3 ed sheerans. That the ginger 26 year old has managed to clone himself for maximum exposure, spreading his ginger face and relentless love ballads across the globe

mad muffin

I'm not a fan so yes.

Noddyholder

I like some of his songs, never really thought about him after that.

NathanDrake

His tickets are going for 1000 euro a pop on seat wave so my guess is: NOPE!
Not a fan of him but people can't get enough of him clearly

elefant

Just what was needed in Galway. Another horrendous bawl about women of the west, sure to be played ad nauseum for eternity.

Thanks, Ed.

Badly Drunk Boy

I saw this on Twitter:

Your Face

I knew a Ned Sheeran once.
Munster man, small hands.
Could be very angry at times, especially on Wednesdays.
He had an abusive relationship with the English language.
Last I heard, he rode shotgun on the bus down to Horetown.

Broken Hearted Road

He has a new song out - Galway Girl. Before I listened to it, I thought it would be a cover of Sharon Shannon's Galway Girl.

Fcuk Off Ed, there can only be one Galway Girl.

fizzypish

Isn't this the second Ed thread in a short space of time. I don't listen to the radio much (Not in the UK or Ireland either) so I don't get the edposure and so don't understand eds marmite status. Whats wrong with a happy singing little ginger fellah? I bet you ****'n loved bosco OP!

theteal

I don't know why I clicked in here.

Has he covered Steve Earle's song?
It was only done a while ago, wasn't it by Mundy(?) or someone???

ceegee

theteal wrote: »

I don't know why I clicked in here.

Has he covered Steve Earle's song?
It was only done a while ago, wasn't it by Mundy(?) or someone???

No he's written a different song with the same title.
Don't think we've reached peak Sheeran yet. Still hasn't been announced as the last Glastonbury headliner, expect even more coverage when its announced

ChikiChiki

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I saw this on Twitter:

That is fcuking impressively outrageous.

CINCLANTFLT

Peak Sheeran, an event based on M. King Hubbert's theory, is the point in time when the maximum rate of extraction of Ed Sheeran songs is reached, after which it is expected to enter terminal decline. Peak Sheeran theory is based on the observed rise, peak, fall, and depletion of curated Ed Sheeran playlists on Spotify over time.

Gwynplaine

Sick of him. His albino head annoys me.

biko

You realise OP that by creating this thread you're only adding to the problem?

tomwaterford

Gwynplaine wrote: »

Sick of him. His albino head annoys me.

Anyone who hits Justin Bieber in the head with a golf club can't be all bad??

Doctor DooM

To be fair, in terms of the annoying-popular music matrix he's far more in the popular than annoying. Not my cup of tea but hardly as offensive as some of the other dreck that has been flung at us over the years...

Yourself isit

Seems to be a cheeky chappie

The_Kew_Tour

Comes across as very nice man and all the best to him

But once you hear 2 or 3 of his songs you have heard them all

Cee-Jay-Cee

I think we peaked around 3yrs ago unfortunately atelt no one told the greater public that and the have encouraged ole copper knob to keep going.

razorblunt

Spotify UK Top 50 playlist currently has one of tracks from 1 through 18/19. His lowest ranked track is then ~80,000 plays ahead of Stormzy.

gramar

razorblunt wrote: »

Spotify UK Top 50 playlist currently has one of tracks from 1 through 18/19. His lowest ranked track is then ~80,000 plays ahead of Stormzy.

Wtf is Stormzy?

elefant

gramar wrote: »

Wtf is Stormzy?

A young and very talented British hip-hop/grime artist. His new album was number 1 in Ireland and the UK the week before last.

gramar

elefant wrote: »

A young and very talented British hip-hop/grime artist. His new album was number 1 in Ireland and the UK the week before last.

Wtf is grime?
While I mightn't understand a lot of music types that I'm not into at least I've heard if them. Never heard of grime though! I shall google.