Is the word 'youth' defined in the constitution?

thestar · 01-02-2017 4:09pm #1

Could anybody clarify this for me?

01-02-2017 4:11pm

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html

Go nuts

Fred Swanson · 01-02-2017 4:15pm

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Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:21pm

If you feel like being more specific please do

Robbo · 01-02-2017 4:22pm

Is there any reason to expect that "youth" or other commonly used words would be defined within the basic law of the State?

Grolschevik · 01-02-2017 4:24pm

As per 'My Cousin Vinny', I suggest you expand your search terms to include 'yute'.

Indricotherium · 01-02-2017 4:32pm

Robbo wrote: »

Is there any reason to expect that "youth" or other commonly used words would be defined within the basic law of the State?

I can see why words like Child might need to be strictly defined in basic law.

If the constitution is going to confer rights on people based on whether or not they are childs.

Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:34pm

I have a feeling we might be stumbling towards the Sinnott case for OP's homework so I'll just say it.

thestar · 01-02-2017 4:37pm

Fred Swanson wrote:

The word "youth" is not found anywhere in the constitution.

You 100% sure of that?

Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:38pm

thestar wrote: »

You 100% sure of that?

I was as sure as one can be by opening it on the browser, pressing Ctrl+F and typing youth.

Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:42pm

Interesting aside, "thereof" appears 21 times!

Mr. Incognito · 01-02-2017 4:42pm

No it's not.

The Constiution is a body of law from which other laws and acts flow. Each Act has self contained definitions in it and with it.
Anything outside that is the interpreation act for guidance where words are given their ordinary meaning.

An Adult is legally Defined.
A Minor is legally defined.
A Child is legally defined

A Youth could be either and is ambigious. You would simple use adult, minor or child as the case may be

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2005/act/23/enacted/en/html

Indricotherium · 01-02-2017 4:46pm

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Interesting aside, "thereof" appears 21 times!

http://i.imgur.com/n7YfcZz.png

Good old word cloud!

Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:47pm

Indricotherium wrote: »

http://i.imgur.com/n7YfcZz.png

Good old word cloud!

That's freaking cool, how did you do that?

Samuel T. Cogley · 01-02-2017 4:52pm

Okay all joking aside (from me at least I'm not very good at it) is there something more specific you want OP. There's plenty of messing goes on but people want to be helpful.

GM228 · 01-02-2017 4:52pm

Not only is youth not defined in the Constitution, there also is no definition of youth in any Act or SI either.

There are however various definitions within Acts/SIs for "child" or "young person" and some EU directives have even defined "adolescent".

Also worth remembering the definition is applied only to the Act it's contained in - child in one Act would have a different meaning to child in another.

Peregrinus · 02-02-2017 1:15am

You'll only define a word in a legislative text - whether that's the Constitution or the lowest set of bye-laws ever made by an Urban District Council - if (a) the text uses that word, and (b) it's intended to have a sense which is either different from, or more precise than, the ordinary or common sense of the word, and that sense is not obvious from the context.

As already pointed out, the Constitution doesn't employ the word "youth" at any point, so the question of whether it employs in in a non-standard sense that would require definition doesn't arise.

It does employ the word "child" quite extensively, but it doesn't define it, which means that the drafters of the Constitution expect you to understand what they mean by "child", in context, without having to have it explained to you.

Is the word 'youth' defined in the constitution?

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