Lambing 2017

rangler1

charolais0153 wrote: »

No its hypothermia fifty fifty now. Damb charolais lambs

Hot box
Very easy to make yourself with a fan heater
http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/124/two-compartment-lamb-warming-box

Only way to heat a lamb.
Get yourself a thermometer too, at least you'll know if his temp is rising.

charolais0153

rangler1 wrote: »

Hot box
Very easy to make yourself with a fan heater
http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/124/two-compartment-lamb-warming-box

Only way to heat a lamb.
Get yourself a thermometer too, at least you'll know if his temp is rising.

His temp was 32 when brought to vet, now 35.5, I checked another lamb and he was 39.9.

Westernrock

rangler1 wrote: »

Hot box
Very easy to make yourself with a fan heater
http://www.shearwell.co.uk/p/124/two-compartment-lamb-warming-box

Only way to heat a lamb.
Get yourself a thermometer too, at least you'll know if his temp is rising.

+1
Much better than a heat bulb.

charolais0153

Don't have any timber to go messing making a thing like that but have a fan heater. Wold I bring him inside and out him beside one or leave it out on the straw with him.....would be afreaid of fire or anything with option 2

charolais0153

Would a cardboard(instead of timber) box like the one in the oic work.would you out straw in?

rangler1

charolais0153 wrote: »

His temp was 32 when brought to vet, now 35.5, I checked another lamb and he was 39.9.

What are you heating him with, it's not advisable to tube them until they are over 37 degrees, what did the vet do
This is a good way to get energy into a chilled lamb when they are too cold to tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTi6k6C2dXA

We put 20gms glucose n 100mls warm water and microwave for a minute to sterilise it, we put that in the syringe when it cools

mcgiggles

Someone mentioned using a hairdryer when stuck?

We made our own prolapse harness using rope and it worked a treat.. I'm sure there's a YouTube video on it, himself made it so I've no idea what he did

rangler1

charolais0153 wrote: »

Don't have any timber to go messing making a thing like that but have a fan heater. Wold I bring him inside and out him beside one or leave it out on the straw with him.....would be afreaid of fire or anything with option 2

Fire would be a problem alright with straw or cardboard, it can be your project for next year

rangler1

Bought one of these a few years back when my homemade wooden one disintegrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WshOKJHURzI

ganmo

mcgiggles wrote: »

Someone mentioned using a hairdryer when stuck?

We made our own prolapse harness using rope and it worked a treat.. I'm sure there's a YouTube video on it, himself made it so I've no idea what he did

Anything to get heat into them

Ya a harness out of ropes is common here. A loop behind the front legs crossed over, down the back down between the hind legs then up around the legs and tied on her back

mcgiggles

ganmo wrote:

Ya a harness out of ropes is common here. A loop behind the front legs crossed over, down the back down between the hind legs then up around the legs and tied on her back

Yep that sounds like what he did alright!

charolais0153

rangler1 wrote: »

What are you heating him with, it's not advisable to tube them until they are over 37 degrees, what did the vet do
This is a good way to get energy into a chilled lamb when they are too cold to tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTi6k6C2dXA

We put 20gms glucose n 100mls warm water and microwave for a minute to sterilise it, we put that in the syringe when it cools

We gave him glucose when we got home so that would of been around 33or 34 degrees. Vet gave him 2 injections,

charolais0153

mcgiggles wrote: »

Someone mentioned using a hairdryer when stuck?

We made our own prolapse harness using rope and it worked a treat.. I'm sure there's a YouTube video on it, himself made it so I've no idea what he did

Was using a hairdryer...it dried him but struggled to heat him up sufficiently...it might have been me that mentioned it. We had him in the van with heat going down to your feet where we out him . not the most efficient way but sure as hell worked and meant I wasn't outside all night.....gave him a suck there, he's screeching but still a bit wobbly....a hell of a lot better than he was.
Thanks for all the help

roosky

ewe lambed today, single lamb, third crop ewe, but she has no milk as im like not even a tint!

I botteled the lamb beastins from another ewe and gave him two feeds of volostrum since.

She got pain killers, antibiotic and oxytocin as it was a hard lambing but I have had much much rougher.

What can i do to get her to come to milk or what are the chances of her coming to it,


TIA

Bullocks

rangler1 wrote: »

What are you heating him with, it's not advisable to tube them until they are over 37 degrees, what did the vet do
This is a good way to get energy into a chilled lamb when they are too cold to tube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTi6k6C2dXA

We put 20gms glucose n 100mls warm water and microwave for a minute to sterilise it, we put that in the syringe when it cools

Whats the chances of going wrong by getting the needle in the wrong spot , or is it fairly foolproof ?

rangler1

Bullocks wrote: »

Whats the chances of going wrong by getting the needle in the wrong spot , or is it fairly foolproof ?

Probably not that simple, needs a sterile syringe and 1.5 inch fine needle.
An inch to the lambs right of the navel and an inch down and go in at 45 degrees.....aim for his arse really
Here's two very different methods, it must be foolproof if the first one works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1FM2v7uORU
Eblex have a good one too....they say you can go in either side.
Its important to sterilise the glucose, mix with boiling water or microwave.
Glucose is prone to growing all sorts of bugs if it's around a while ...hence the boiled water
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUKqbg5hSvc
Starts at about six minutes

arctictree

mcgiggles wrote: »

Well the f**kn ewe just lay on one of the trips.. himself is raging so she may get the chop after all. Weather is so rank!!!

I tend to put Ewes with triplets in double size pens. The single pens just seem too small for 3 lambs and a ewe.

sea12

jd06 wrote: »

Where online would I get a prolapse harness.
None stocked round here

Get them off Stanley in Laois the man that makes the gates. Around €20. I find them better than the ropes. Less severe on the ewe and she can lamb with them on.

mcgiggles

arctictree wrote:

I tend to put Ewes with triplets in double size pens. The single pens just seem too small for 3 lambs and a ewe.

We'll know that for again. Thanks.. she lay on another one last night. Absolutely raging they were the loveliest lambs.

razor8

sea12 wrote: »

Get them off Stanley in Laois the man that makes the gates. Around €20. I find them better than the ropes. Less severe on the ewe and she can lamb with them on.

https://www.agridirect.ie/product/prolapse-super-blue-harness

rangler1

roosky wrote: »

ewe lambed today, single lamb, third crop ewe, but she has no milk as im like not even a tint!

I botteled the lamb beastins from another ewe and gave him two feeds of volostrum since.

She got pain killers, antibiotic and oxytocin as it was a hard lambing but I have had much much rougher.

What can i do to get her to come to milk or what are the chances of her coming to it,


TIA

Oxytocin only works here in the first hour.....if it's going to work, often gave it again next morn, but never worked.
92 lambed here since monday, I'm bollixed but only two dead lambs. about 170 of the first batch of 200 due to lamb in the first 17 days, so shouldn't be as busy next week

razor8

rangler1 wrote: »

Oxytocin only works here in the first hour.....if it's going to work, often gave it again next morn, but never worked.
92 lambed here since monday, I'm bollixed but only two dead lambs. about 170 of the first batch of 200 due to lamb in the first 17 days, so shouldn't be as busy next week

That's fair going to only lose 2 lambs!

rangler1

razor8 wrote: »

That's fair going to only lose 2 lambs!

Three now.f....ing fox or some vermin . This year lambs are over 4 days old when they go out because of the weather, I didn't think they'd take them that old.

Green farmer

Rangler, with your meal and straw only diet, how much meal would you give the twin bearing ewes for the last week or two prior to lambing ?
Also anyone else struggling with the elements. Land it turning to sh*te here. Bad state of affairs when the quad bike is Marking the fields . Dread to think what a tractor would do.

rangler1

Green farmer wrote: »

Rangler, with your meal and straw only diet, how much meal would you give the twin bearing ewes for the last week or two prior to lambing ?
Also anyone else struggling with the elements. Land it turning to sh*te here. Bad state of affairs when the quad bike is Marking the fields . Dread to think what a tractor would do.

2.5lbs divided in three feeds.

Birdnuts

Green farmer wrote: »

Also anyone else struggling with the elements. Land it turning to sh*te here. Bad state of affairs when the quad bike is Marking the fields . Dread to think what a tractor would do.

Not lambing for another 2 weeks but ground conditions deteriating fast since the start of the month with many of the weather experts going for a lot of cold arctic plunges this spring. Some even saying we could be looking at 2013 all over again:(. At least the fodder situation should be better this time around as it looks like plenty will be needed to keep condition on stock.

ganmo

Even the deer are mucking the ground

Ard_MC

rangler1 wrote: »

Three now.f....ing fox or some vermin . This year lambs are over 4 days old when they go out because of the weather, I didn't think they'd take them that old.

Seen dog foxes take them up to a week old.

kk.man

I was in a real dry field today on the tractor and the water just lying on the ground...no where to go....I did mark it but it will recover....I have never seen it so bad at this time of the year

Sami23

Well with another bad week forecast weather wise is anyone planning on letting out ewe's and lambs this week ?
Accommodation very tight here now