Cost of concrete base for steeltech shed 20 x 10 feet

Marshall987

Hi

Looking to buy a 20x10 steeltech shed.

They told me the base would be around 2,000 by the local guy they recommend.

I don't have a clue bout these things, but it seems expensive, nearly the same price of the shed to put in a 4inch base.

I'm in Limerick if anyone knows anyone or would estimate a price that ye think it should cost.

Cheers
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dingdong1234567

Put in a 10x18 base myself over the summer. Done it meself, cost about €300. That's included steel mesh concrete and shuttering with 4x2. Hardest part was wheel narrowing nearly 2cube of concrete. ******in nearly killed me! Ha!

Marshall987

dingdong1234567 wrote: »

Put in a 10x18 base myself over the summer. Done it meself, cost about €300. That's included steel mesh concrete and shuttering with 4x2. Hardest part was wheel narrowing nearly 2cube of concrete. ******in nearly killed me! Ha!

Cheers might be worth trying to do it myself then, haha Ya I can imagine, did the truck wait for you or did you mix it yourself?

foxy farmer

Mad money. A slab 22x12 at 6 inch thick would take just under 4cum of concrete. Less than €400. Hire a mini digger to clear the site and a small dumper maybe to shift earth and concrete if access is a problem. A few timbers and some reinforcement. Not a big job surely.

Right2Write

Depends on what you're up to, how you value your time & sweat etc. Access for mixer - can you get ready mix poured in etc. Not a difficult job, you'll need to remove top soil to larger area than base, set up and level your shuttering planks etc. Line with DPM plastic before pouring, steel mesh can be used to reinforce but probably overkill for small shed like this unless you plan to store very heavy materials inside. Remember to allow a bit of space either side, so that you can level the mix with the screeding plank.

basillarkin

Crete is between 70 and 75 a meter depending on how much you need. I done a 12*6m shed recently and needed 11m for a finish. Mind was 6 inches deep in spots.

Stravos Murphy

foxy farmer wrote: »

Mad money. A slab 22x12 at 6 inch thick would take just under 4cum of concrete. Less than €400. Hire a mini digger to clear the site and a small dumper maybe to shift earth and concrete if access is a problem. A few timbers and some reinforcement. Not a big job surely.

A few timbers and some reinforcement really? Watching too much cowboy builders I think.
You can't just clear back a site and assume its ready for a slab, careful planning and assessment needs doing. Shuttering needs to be in place properly along with steel.
A few timbers and some reinforcement lol.

jack of all

As a previous poster has said, depends how you value your time etc. I got a pro to put in a concrete base for me, 20 x 12', powerfloated and some rebar around the edges, slab was insulated. When I saw the amount of work that was required, including removing several tonnes of topsoil, I was very happy that I'd decided to pay someone else to do the job. There's skill in placing and finishing concrete correctly and I'm happy to pay someone for their skill if I feel I won't be able to match it. Unless you're very fit (and used to doing this type of physical work) it can be a big ask to do anything other than a small shed slab (8 x6' being what I'd call small). For larger slabs you're going to need a helper or two anyway and remember- (wet) concrete waits for no man!

Water John

Ah lads, stop over egging the job,,,,SHUTTERING!!!
One handy man with you for a day, with a mini digger getting the site ready.
With boards down, put down base in 1 hour.

Stravos Murphy

Can you expand on the one hour base down Walter john?

the_pen_turner

Water John wrote: »

Ah lads, stop over egging the job,,,,SHUTTERING!!!
One handy man with you for a day, with a mini digger getting the site ready.
With boards down, put down base in 1 hour.

this is what is wrong with the building game now. people miss estimating time on jobs (customers mostly) yes pouring the concrete is a 1 hour job but what about the hour before and the several after where you clean up and finish it off . it takes several hours before you can power float even in the summer . .

even the fastest of jobs take a few hours of my day. a woman got me to do a small job (10 min max but wanted it done straight away ) it took 4 hours of my day

foxy farmer

Id love to see how they come to a figure of 2k for the OPs base 20'x10'x 4" Has the builder seen the site or is it a ballpark figure plucked out of the sky.

sligo camper

Foxy farmer

the maths for the 2k is easy...20 ft x 10 ft = 200 then add an 0 to your earlier calculation,,,2000

the_pen_turner

foxy farmer wrote: »

Id love to see how they come to a figure of 2k for the OPs base 20'x10'x 4" Has the builder seen the site or is it a ballpark figure plucked out of the sky.

if i was pricing it


mini digger hire 240/ day
timber for formwork 80
concrete 240 minium .
hardcore 100
power float 80
fuel 40

labour
2 guys layout ,get all tools etc , square up, dig out , put in hardcore , build formwork etc 300
2 guys pour concrete , scread it, float it, powerfloat it. not a full day 300
2 guys take down formwork, tidy up site, tidy up grass or clay around base, remove everything from site , put everything back at base 300

disposal of timer 50

all that comes to 1750
no profit added yet or time for looking at the job or colecting money
add 13.5 % vat and it 1986

Marshall987

the_pen_turner wrote: »

if i was pricing it


mini digger hire 240/ day
timber for formwork 80
concrete 240 minium .
hardcore 100
power float 80
fuel 40

labour
2 guys layout ,get all tools etc , square up, dig out , put in hardcore , build formwork etc 300
2 guys pour concrete , scread it, float it, powerfloat it. not a full day 300
2 guys take down formwork, tidy up site, tidy up grass or clay around base, remove everything from site , put everything back at base 300

disposal of timer 50

all that comes to 1750
no profit added yet or time for looking at the job or colecting money
add 13.5 % vat and it 1986

I don't have room for a mini digger😮

When you break it all down it doesn't sound to bad but when you see a shed for 2k and u have to pay another 2k to have the shed it seems a lot

Marshall987

foxy farmer wrote: »

Id love to see how they come to a figure of 2k for the OPs base 20'x10'x 4" Has the builder seen the site or is it a ballpark figure plucked out of the sky.

He hasn't seen the site, only standard access site gate so no room for diggers etc.

I got a quote from another guy 1650.

the_pen_turner

Marshall987 wrote: »

I don't have room for a mini digger😮

When you break it all down it doesn't sound to bad but when you see a shed for 2k and u have to pay another 2k to have the shed it seems a lot

you can get mini diggers that will go through you front door.
have you a side entrance.

how are they getting the shed in there.

if you are willing to do the digging by hand yourself and have somewhere to put the clay on site you could save a nice few euro.

the_pen_turner

sorry you id you have a side gate.
if you get somone with their own digger you might save a few euro

Water John

As I said skim site, hardcore(if used) and put timber screeds in place. 2 people, one day. That assumes a mini digger.

Lay slab and tamp slab in 40 mins. If the mix is fairly stiff, you can steel float straight away, 20 mins. Float an hour later if you want.

2 others and myself put down 40 sq meters yesterday in less than an hour.

It's not a mystery.

the_pen_turner

Water John wrote: »

As I said skim site, hardcore(if used) and put timber screeds in place. 2 people, one day. That assumes a mini digger.

Lay slab and tamp slab in 40 mins. If the mix is fairly stiff, you can steel float straight away, 20 mins. Float an hour later if you want.

2 others and myself put down 40 sq meters yesterday in less than an hour.

It's not a mystery.

you should never lay concrete on clay.

what happens to what you skimmed off
what about checking for wires,pipes etc

even with a tele scute you would struggle to pour and screed in 40 min.
your floating after 20 min come on now , even with a very dry an thursty filling under concrete and a warm day it takes 2 hours before you can float properly. using a bull float will only pull more fat to the surface and make it a bugger to float,

you might have poured it in less than an hour . assuming you could pour straight to where its going and not have to barrow it in.
but i would hate to put a level on it. it couldnt be flat . it takes time to put it in flat. you have to scread it twice and then tap. leave it to pull for an hour or 2 before you can start floating. if you bull foat to early it will create a lot of waves

dbagman

I got a shed from clane steel sheds. 13.5ft by 10ft. 2300. Doesn't need a concrete base and the lads had it built on site in about 4 hours. Depends what you want it for. If it's as a car garage then maybe a concrete base is needed but otherwise I wouldn't bother.

Panrich

I've been given 3.5k as a ball park for a 20" by 9" 6' base. Now that includes power from the house and water/drainage. And only about €500 less without water. Madness.

Water John

Wants €500 euro for a bit of pipe, a joiner and tap.
Prices here are funny. Any farmer would laugh at them and the suggested time required.

the_pen_turner

Water John wrote: »

Wants €500 euro for a bit of pipe, a joiner and tap.
Prices here are funny. Any farmer would laugh at them and the suggested time required.

yes but farmers and anyone handy would do a lot themselves and save money.
this isnt a farm its an estate or similar

XsApollo

I was looking at steel sheds last year.
I have decided on a shanette shed that I will probably do this this year.

But yea bases are expensive and some of the ways people will put them in are laughable.
I close to getting a shed in o riordans in charleville had one picked out and had their guy out to price the base.
1000 euro for the base he said, I said "nice , that's with hardcore levelled and done properly yea?"

He said I don't need all that, just put DPM on the grass and pour the slab on top :-)
No thanks, I left the shed behind also.

Will probably tackle this myself in the summer.

Water John

With prices put here, There is a great opportunity for a few of us farmers to make great money if ye can charge at this level, besides trying to make a mystery of the job.

This type of pricing, drives a whole market underground. Doing the job with no insurance for cash.

Stravos Murphy

the_pen_turner wrote: »

you should never lay concrete on clay.

what happens to what you skimmed off
what about checking for wires,pipes etc

even with a tele scute you would struggle to pour and screed in 40 min.
your floating after 20 min come on now , even with a very dry an thursty filling under concrete and a warm day it takes 2 hours before you can float properly. using a bull float will only pull more fat to the surface and make it a bugger to float,

you might have poured it in less than an hour . assuming you could pour straight to where its going and not have to barrow it in.
but i would hate to put a level on it. it couldnt be flat . it takes time to put it in flat. you have to scread it twice and then tap. leave it to pull for an hour or 2 before you can start floating. if you bull foat to early it will create a lot of waves

You would manage it alrite on a high stool, it's a great bar stool tale.

the_pen_turner

Stravos Murphy wrote: »

You would manage it alrite on a high stool, it's a great bar stool tale.

not sure what yor trying to say

Stravos Murphy

the_pen_turner wrote: »

not sure what yor trying to say

I'm agreeing with you that Walton john and his mighty achievement.

the_pen_turner

Stravos Murphy wrote: »

I'm agreeing with you that Walton john and his mighty achievement.

thats good. i wasnt sure

Water John

Since I don't generally drink alcohol, it isn't a bar stool tale.

BTW, family members own a few houses in estates. And yes, we would generally do any such work ourselves.

Over pricing jobs actually limit the economic activity in any community. It is self defeating for the country.

gutteruu

Cowboys Ted! Any man caught laying a slab on clay should have his legs cast into it. 2k is a reasonable quote for a proper job. Anyone doing it much cheaper will be half arsed and leave the place covered in $hit, gauranteed.

jack of all

gutteruu wrote: »

Cowboys Ted! Any man caught laying a slab on clay should have his legs cast into it. 2k is a reasonable quote for a proper job. Anyone doing it much cheaper will be half arsed and leave the place covered in $hit, gauranteed.

The job I had done was poured on a hardcore base, which was whacked in. The contractor was very clean and covered down my driveway with a tarp to prevent damage and made for a quick and easy clean up when all was done. You do get what you pay for, you pays your money and you make your choice I suppose!