Glasgow vs Munster, Sat 14th Jan 5:30pm - Live on Sky Sports

thomond2006

In before johngoose asks about betting. :pac:

Current standings:
Munster 16 (+82)
Glasgow 13 (+33)
Leicester 8 (-55)
Racing 0 (-60)

Glasgow Warriors team to play Munster in the European Rugby Champions Cup at Scotstoun Stadium, Saturday 14 January live on Sky Sports (kick-off 5.30pm).
15. Stuart Hogg (94) (28)
14. Tommy Seymour (95) (24)
13. Mark Bennett (62) (12)
12. Alex Dunbar (92) (22)
11. Lee Jones (45) (21)
10. Finn Russell (57) (16)
9. Ali Price (35) (7)

1. Gordon Reid (107) (19)
2. Fraser Brown (57) (11)
3. Zander Fagerson (45) (10)
4. Tim Swinson (90) (40)
5. Jonny Gray CAPTAIN (67) (18)
6. Rob Harley (151) (30)
7. Ryan Wilson (123) (27)
8. Josh Strauss (102) (21)

Replacements:

16. Pat MacArthur (146) (34)
17. Alex Allan (39) (11)
18. D’arcy Rae (15) (0)
19. Matt Fagerson (6) (0)
20. Chris Fusaro (116) (24)
21. Grayson Hart (29) (8)
22. Nick Grigg (9) (1)
23. Peter Murchie (110) (16)

Not available due to injury: Scott Cummings (shoulder), Simone Favaro (ankle), Jarrod Firth (neck), Peter Horne (knee/ankle), Rory Hughes (knee), Sean Lamont (back), Greg Peterson (shoulder), Henry Pyrgos (knee), Sila Puafisi (concussion), Leonardo Sarto (shoulder), Matt Smith (shoulder), Tjiuee Uanivi (shoulder) and Richie Vernon (shoulder).

Munster:
Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray;
Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Donnacha Ryan; Peter O'Mahony Capt., Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Thomas Du Toit, Dave Foley, Billy Holland, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Francis Saili.

With a training session against Racing 92's U20s to come next week, Munster are all but assured of a quarter final place. They travel to Glasgow in the hopes of securing one of the top seeds and a home quarter final.

Tommy O'Donnell was unavailable and Robin Copeland is out for 6-7 weeks with a thumb injury. Billy Holland acts as back-row cover. Ronan O'Mahony has dropped out of the 23 with Keith Earls starting on the left wing and Ian Keatley coming onto the bench.

Rightwing

Tie of the round, no question about that. This will tell us just where exactly we are. We need to be able to beat Glasgow.

budhabob

Dave Kearney

Munster: Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Donnacha Ryan; Peter O'Mahony Capt., Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Thomas Du Toit, Dave Foley, Billy Holland, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Francis Saili.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/rugby/23770.php

bit odd, holland providing backrow cover, keatlely offering back 3 cover.

Kilcoyne and Kleyn to start, looks like we want a hard carrying pacey physical game.

CMOTDibbler

budhabob wrote: »

Munster: Simon Zebo; Andrew Conway, Jaco Taute, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Tyler Bleyendaal, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Donnacha Ryan; Peter O'Mahony Capt., Jack O'Donoghue, CJ Stander.

Replacements: Rhys Marshall, James Cronin, Thomas Du Toit, Dave Foley, Billy Holland, Duncan Williams, Ian Keatley, Francis Saili.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/rugby/23770.php

bit odd, holland providing backrow cover, keatlely offering back 3 cover.

Kilcoyne and Kleyn to start, looks like we want a hard carrying pacey physical game.

Is Keatley not 22? Saili looks like he's covering the backs.

budhabob

Dave Kearney

CMOTDibbler wrote: »

Is Keatley not 22? Saili looks like he's covering the backs.

Youre correct. I presume Jaco would move so?

leakyboots

Oh that's a nice starting 15 to be sending out, hard pitch will suit Jacko and Killer especially.

aloooof

Dave Kearney

budhabob wrote: »

Youre correct. I presume Jaco would move so?

Keatley filled in at full-back during some game this year and played quite well from what I remember (can't remember the game tho) but I think we have enough versatility on the field for it not to be too much of a problem if we pick up any injuries.

Interesting selection tho, really looking forward to seeing Kleyn again.

letowski

This has the makings for a great game! Interesting that neither team is starting with a natural 7.

irishbucsfan

To be as reductive as possible: If Murray and Bleyendaal perform Munster should win, if they don't I don't see how they can.

thomond2006

Dave Kearney

irishbucsfan wrote: »

To be as reductive as possible: If Murray and Bleyendaal perform Munster should win, if they don't I don't see how they can.

To win the game Munster need to score more points than Glasgow.

kuang1

Jesus that's a fearsome 2nd row pairing we have. I'd expect Kleyn and Donncha to do a lot of damage if they're asked to carry much.
Kleyn definitely will be designated as a big carrier for us I think.

thomond2006

Dave Kearney

Google Weather saying 2c with light rain tomorrow.

willit

Dave Kearney

Two really good sides named here and with the Lions tour on the horizon close enough to start coming into players thoughts, (note I'm not suggesting they'll be focussing on it just yet, only that it is close enough that they'll at least have it cross their minds), it should be very tasty. Realistically, Scotlands only hopes of having a Lion come from this Glasgow side (outside of Richie Gray)
Anyway, I believe we can win this but, given that we can still qualify top of the group if we lose with a bonus point and deny them a winning one, even if they beat Leicester next week, I think Glasgow need it more and, at home, that might swing it for them. If this was knockout, I'd back us every time. #SUAF

thomond2006

Dave Kearney

willit wrote: »

Two really good sides named here and with the Lions tour on the horizon close enough to start coming into players thoughts, (note I'm not suggesting they'll be focussing on it just yet, only that it is close enough that they'll at least have it cross their minds), it should be very tasty. Realistically, Scotlands only hopes of having a Lion come from this Glasgow side (outside of Richie Gray)
Anyway, I believe we can win this but, given that we can still qualify top of the group if we lose with a bonus point and deny them a winning one, even if they beat Leicester next week, I think Glasgow need it more and, at home, that might swing it for them. If this was knockout, I'd back us every time. #SUAF

I'd like to think Munster will have a knockout mentality. The reward is a likely semi-final spit as I'd back the current Munster side to beat anybody in Thomond Park.

Bridge93

Winning this game is likely the difference between being at home to Wasps/Toulouse or away to Wasps. Pretty important to win regardless of whether Munster will top the group anyway

aloooof

Dave Kearney

thomond2006 wrote: »

I'd like to think Munster will have a knockout mentality. The reward is a likely semi-final spit as I'd back the current Munster side to beat anybody in Thomond Park.

And a semi-final spot where we could be drawn to play in Thomond Park too, I believe. I remember seeing stats a few months back (possibly from Gerry?) about how unlucky we've been with away semi-final draws in the past, getting drawn away quite often. I'm getting ahead of myself now, mind...

letowski

To get a home QF would be huge for our organisation and fanbase in so many ways. I think the players are aware of the significance of a win tomorrow would be.

ScrubsfanChris

Dave Kearney

aloooof wrote: »

And a semi-final spot where we could be drawn to play in Thomond Park too, I believe. I remember seeing stats a few months back (possibly from Gerry?) about how unlucky we've been with away semi-final draws in the past, getting drawn away quite often. I'm getting ahead of myself now, mind...

IF we got a home semi, we wouldn't be allowed play it in Thomond. It would be the Aviva.

Former Former

aloooof wrote: »

And a semi-final spot where we could be drawn to play in Thomond Park too, I believe. I remember seeing stats a few months back (possibly from Gerry?) about how unlucky we've been with away semi-final draws in the past, getting drawn away quite often. I'm getting ahead of myself now, mind...

No, unfortunately not. The random draw is gone.

If Munster are the third or fourth best pool winner, they will get a home quarter final but cannot get a home semi. They can only get a home semi by being the 1st or 2nd pool winner (or getting an away QF and winning it...), but I would imagine Saracens and Clermont have the top two sewn up.

willit

Dave Kearney

thomond2006 wrote: »

I'd like to think Munster will have a knockout mentality. The reward is a likely semi-final spit as I'd back the current Munster side to beat anybody in Thomond Park.

Bridge93 wrote: »

Winning this game is likely the difference between being at home to Wasps/Toulouse or away to Wasps. Pretty important to win regardless of whether Munster will top the group anyway

letowski wrote: »

To get a home QF would be huge for our organisation and fanbase in so many ways. I think the players are aware of the significance of a win tomorrow would be.

But like I said, given that we are currently 3 points ahead, if we get a losing bonus point and prevent them from getting a try bonus point then we'd be level on points and ahead on points difference or head to head and therefore still top of the group with Racing at home. Therefore, we have less at stake here than Glasgow, specifically when you consider if they lose and Leicester win then they will be a max of 2 points ahead of Leicester if not possibly level on points with them going into the last game.
All that being said, I don't expect us to go into the game with the wrong attitude and, like I said, I believe we can win and will be as disappointed as the next person if we don't.

aloooof

Dave Kearney

Former Former wrote: »

No, unfortunately not. The random draw is gone.

If Munster are the third or fourth best pool winner, they will get a home quarter final but cannot get a home semi. They can only get a home semi by being the 1st or 2nd pool winner (or getting an away QF and winning it...), but I would imagine Saracens and Clermont have the top two sewn up.

Actually this rings a bell now you mention it, some rules in place to try even out the home and away sides between the QF and SF?

irishbucsfan

aloooof wrote: »

Actually this rings a bell now you mention it, some rules in place to try even out the home and away sides between the QF and SF?

Yes, but even under old rules Munster's semi final couldn't be in Thomond Park

Looking forward to this, going to be tough but I think Munster will come away with 4. Game of the weekend for me, hope it delivers!

kuang1

Remarkably quiet here!
Everyone must be in Glasgow.

Tough game ahead. As others have said a real test for us today. I'm hoping Kleyn imposes himself from the start, and TB is on the money. This won't be won in the first 20 but it could be lost.

I hope Glasgow aren't inspired by leinsters start to last nights game!
We need to front up and keep things tight. A low scoring affair might suit us today.

LuckyGent88

Really looking forward to this. Will be real sign of where we are as a side. Glasgow are in good form and have a very good side out.
Think we should have the advantage in the forwards so hopefully we can bully them up front.
Big test of our defense as well which has been excellent all year. Glasgow have plenty of threats in their backline.

Full faith in our team to produce a big performance and come away with a narrow victory.

CoDy1

kuang1 wrote: »

I hope Glasgow aren't inspired by leinsters start to last nights game!
We need to front up and keep things tight. A low scoring affair might suit us today.

and lets not make it an easy game for them by going down to 14 men :pac:

johnnyryan89

kuang1 wrote: »

Remarkably quiet here!
Everyone must be in Glasgow.

Think everyone was just waiting to see the out come of the Wasps match first. Gonna be a tough game but Munster hopefully can grind out the win and guarantee a home quarter final.

Mahatma Geansai

Really looking forward to this game. Missed the game last week because I was away on holidays.

Mahatma Geansai

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

Really looking forward to this game. Missed the game last week because I was away on holidays.

They didn't show the match in Cork? ? ?

ScrubsfanChris

Dave Kearney

Nice low scoring frist half would do nicely. Don't give Glasgow any type of momentum.

irishbucsfan

C'mon Munster, important to keep the Scots out of the Quarter finals or else they might be able to afford to beat us a little more often.

kuang1

Off we go...come on munster!!!!

elastico

anybody got a match link?

Mahatma Geansai

Scannell clearing the line ahead of Zebo?

LuckyGent88

Glasgow playing at some speed here. Causing us plenty of problems

Bridge93

Stander with a hand out? Glasgow stated well

Donnchadh Ryan already looks knackered..!

awec

Must be weird playing on this surface, you'll finish the match completely clean!

vienne86

A lot of pressure from Glasgow in the first few minutes, but Munster defence is sound.

Buer

Munster look very aggressive and hungry. Keep Glasgow quiet for first 20 and they'll win.

ScrubsfanChris

Dave Kearney

awec wrote: »

Must be weird playing on this surface, you'll finish the match completely clean!

Except for the friction burn, ugh!

Felix Jones is God

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Donnchadh Ryan already looks knackered..!

That's a look of pashun, something you wouldn't recognise

BBDBB

Glasgow reading the refs intentions much better than Munster in the first 10

irishgeo

any difference playing on a plastic pitch?

Mahatma Geansai

Should that not only be a freekick at this stage?

ScrubsfanChris

Dave Kearney

Glasgow player binding on Killer's arm. Bad call by the AR

vienne86

3-0 now. Glasgow have been made work for those points.

LuckyGent88

Getting beat in every area so far.

Stheno

LuckyGent88 wrote: »

Getting beat in every area so far.

Except the scrum

Stheno

What caused the scrap?

Neil3030

What's written across the Munster jersey?