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Dascoin

  • 13-01-2017 8:33am
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    Registered Users Posts: 15,798 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    Following on from bitcoin, onecoin etc has anyone heard of Dascoin and got any info on it?


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,494 ✭✭✭ BrokenArrows


    Why do new digital coins keep getting created?
    The concept only really works if you have a single standard digital currency.
    Having dozens of different types just doesnt work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 alb


    Tyson Fury wrote: »
    Following on from bitcoin, onecoin etc has anyone heard of Dascoin and got any info on it?

    Onecoin is nothing like bitcoin, it's not even a cryptocurrency, it's a scam posing as a cryptocurrency to try and sucker people who want in on the 'next bitcoin' but don't actually know anything about the technology.
    Michael Mathias
    CEO, DasCoin

    Cryptocurrencies don't have CEOs, Dascoin just looks like another scam.
    Why do new digital coins keep getting created?
    The concept only really works if you have a single standard digital currency.
    Having dozens of different types just doesnt work.

    Because anyone can create one and it takes almost no effort. It usually goes like this:
    1) Copy the code of some existing coin
    2) Release the coin with some hype allocating some of the initial coins to yourself for free.
    3) Continue to hype it causing a price rise and dump your coins for a tidy profit
    4) Hype fades, price gradually declines, bagholders remain.
    5) Go back to step 1.

    Variations on this scam are using crowd funding or having an ICO (initial coin offering) where you raise funds before the launch or alternatively running a ponzi scheme pretending it's a cryptocurrency (Onecoin)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭ Nabber


    Just a quick search on one coin
    Onecoin has been accused of being a Ponzi scheme, both because of how it has been set up and because of many of the people who are central to Onecoin having previously been involved in other such schemes.[2] In Hungary the Central Bank has issued a warning that Onecoin is a pyramid scheme.[3] And in China, several members and investors of OneCoin were arrested in 2016 and $30.8 million USD of assets were seized.[4]


    I remember buying some Doge few years ago, still got its following, online tipping and buying homeless people socks,it's running at about 22satoshi.
    Crypto coins are everywhere now. Bitcoin has seen most of the off. You'll find even the faucets drying up too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,798 ✭✭✭✭ Mantis Toboggan


    So do you think Dascoin is a scam and should be avoided?


    IRISHMEN AND IRISHWOMEN: "In the name of God and of the dead generations from which she receives her old tradition of nationhood, Ireland, through us, summons her children to her flag and strikes for her freedom"

    Irish Proclamation



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 alb


    yes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    I came across DasCoin in January last. 2017. I bought up my license at the end of January and have been tracking DasCoin since. To say it was a scam in my opinion is an un educated stab at something you know nothing about. There was a big event in Zurach On the 31st of March. Friday just gone. To launch the Blockchain of Dascoin. The minting on the coins has started. It is gonna be a game changer in cryto currency. Its aiming to be the first mainstream altcoin. It has a great networking package. Were you can earn alot of cash. If you took the advice that you got here and didnt buy your Dascoin license, Then you have lost out on a huge opportunity. Not actually lost out. But if you bought the license 3 months ago then what it will be worth in the near future will be much greater if you bought now. Its still a huge opportunity now to get involved. The coin will be hitting the open exchange in the 1st quarter of 2018.Getting a license comes from referrals. You should go and look up Dascoin and educate yourself about it. There is websites saying dascoin is ponsi scheme and pyramid scheme. Them websites are full of advertisements so I wouldn't get to put off by them. Everytime you click into them the owner of the page gets paid. Very clever way to earn. Pick a hot toppic. DasCoin, and say its a scam. Its gonna get alot of hits. I can help out if you want to go further and get on board the DasCoin train.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,683 ✭✭✭ barneystinson


    I came across DasCoin in January last. 2017. I bought up my license at the end of January and have been tracking DasCoin since. To say it was a scam in my opinion is an un educated stab at something you know nothing about. There was a big event in Zurach On the 31st of March. Friday just gone. To launch the Blockchain of Dascoin. The minting on the coins has started. It is gonna be a game changer in cryto currency. Its aiming to be the first mainstream altcoin. It has a great networking package. Were you can earn alot of cash. If you took the advice that you got here and didnt buy your Dascoin license, Then you have lost out on a huge opportunity. Not actually lost out. But if you bought the license 3 months ago then what it will be worth in the near future will be much greater if you bought now. Its still a huge opportunity now to get involved. The coin will be hitting the open exchange in the 1st quarter of 2018.Getting a license comes from referrals. You should go and look up Dascoin and educate yourself about it. There is websites saying dascoin is ponsi scheme and pyramid scheme. Them websites are full of advertisements so I wouldn't get to put off by them. Everytime you click into them the owner of the page gets paid. Very clever way to earn. Pick a hot toppic. DasCoin, and say its a scam. Its gonna get alot of hits. I can help out if you want to go further and get on board the DasCoin train.

    Thanks Keith,

    When someone of your posting pedigree on Boards (a single post since 2013) chimes in on a topic I'm sure it goes a long way to easing others' concerns... ;)

    Thanks for your offer to help people out, could you just send me your bank account details, a copy of your passport and a utility bill and I reckon I'll be all set to board that train...?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    Thanks Keith,

    When someone of your posting pedigree on Boards (a single post since 2013) chimes in on a topic I'm sure it goes a long way to easing others' concerns... ;)

    Thanks for your offer to help people out, could you just send me your bank account details, a copy of your passport and a utility bill and I reckon I'll be all set to board that train...?!


    No1 is looking for any bank details or pasport photo's. I just came across this post and said id put in my penny's worth. You have to make up your own mind on something like this. But you still need to be referred.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    Came across these chaps last night in Red Cow Moran Hotel selling "licenses".

    Great article on it here http://ethanvanderbuilt.com/2017/08/07/is-dascoin-a-scam-or-truly-the-currency-of-trust/

    TLDR Looks like a ponzi pyramid scheme. You buy coins from people who have licences. You dont get your full quantity until you refer other "investors". The block chain is private. And the talks of been accepted for payment globally has no merchant backing to date.

    Worrying enough, 2 of the chaps involved in the known onecoin scam are involved. Also there is a CEO of Dascoin which kind of completely goes against the decentralised block chain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    Just reading tru your post there. And just incase you could turn a few people off Dascoin with bad information. I am not an active seller of Dascoin. I don’t know for sure if it’s a scam or not. That’s always the risk with early adoption. You just don’t know. But If some1 wants to get into it. I help them. But only after they do there own due diligence and look up what they are doing.
    The exchange is private at the min. Its called internal exchange for license holders. They hope to be on external exchanges at end of 1/4-1-2018.
    About the CEO. Here is a peace from a link I can’t posted.
    (CEO demands retraction and apology over blog post
    The CEO of a Hong Kong-based operator in cryptocurrency and blockchain technology has filed a judicial protest demanding an apology and retraction of a blogpost by the president of BitMalta, a local cryptocurrency advocacy group,

    Michael Mathias complained about a blog posted in August by Jonathan Galea, under the headline “Official Warning from BitMalta regarding DasCoin.”)

    You don’t get all your coins with each License straight away. . This is to stop whales buying up millions of coins and then selling all at the same time. Which as if you know about crypto’s destroys the price of good coins and company’s.

    You can sell your coins now on internal exchange and take bk out into fiat already.

    Time will tell if Dascoin is the real deal or not. But for now. I hold a small license. Let’s see what happens.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,259 alb


    I am not an active seller of Dascoin. I don’t know for sure if it’s a scam or not.

    It is a scam, you bought a license/coin from the company, and now you have to make that money back by selling your coins or licences to other people right? That makes it an MLM pyramid scheme with the company at the top of the pyramid.

    If it was a cryptocurrency there wouldn't be a company in control of it, and no aspects would be 'private'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    alb wrote: »
    It is a scam, you bought a license/coin from the company, and now you have to make that money back by selling your coins or licences to other people right? That makes it an MLM pyramid scheme with the company at the top of the pyramid.

    If it was a cryptocurrency there wouldn't be a company in control of it, and no aspects would be 'private'.

    You should read tru some of there white paper. And roadmap. If they pull it off. Every1 that reads this will have some relationship with dascoin in the future in some way. What I am really hoping that they pull off is there DasPay Card. They have contract with Carta World wide payments to give them the same platform as VISA and MasterCard for there payments system. This is the silver lining for me. I don’t think Carta World Wide would put there name to a scam. And get up on stage at Dascoin Event in Poland and talk about there relationship. So we will see how this 1 plays out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭✭ covfefe


    This is 100% a MLM scam trying to piggy back on the general success of cryptocurrency to try to lure people in. Stay clear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    Hi Keith,

    Decided to look into it more. Interesting comments here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1831625.0

    Do you really think it will be accepted for payments? All the marketing collateral suggests that it is already but there is no proof of this.

    Even the poster promoting the Irish event is a bit confusing. It has bitcoin in the title, then Richard Bransons quote on Bitcoin, then a line from Bill Gates. Does it not strike you as odd that no other crypto has a mobile roadshow where people buy in licences and have to resell in order to make a return. How can you not call it a pyramid scheme?

    Have you sold this on to anyone?

    Also the code isnt open source, so there is no transparency...


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    Interesting comment below.

    Dascoin is a “permissioned blockchain,” which makes it pretty much worthless, in my opinion. The company in control of it can shut down, get raided, seize your funds, commit fraud, etc. and there’s nothing that you can do about it.

    From DasCoin - DasPay - is it a real cryptocurrency | 99 Bitcoins
    https://99bitcoins.com/question/dascoin-daspay-is-it-a-real-cryptocurrency/


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ Drumorig


    Mlm ponzi crap, these guys have nothing but a marketing team and other vested interests trying to resell it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    I have my own license. I bought my 3 brothers €100 lincense. A few freinds bought small license’s aswell. Il sit on it now and wait and see. You don’t have to actively sell licenses. You can get your own. Sit on the fence. Wait for the external exchange and see what happens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ Drumorig


    I have my own license. I bought my 3 brothers €100 lincense. A few freinds bought small license’s aswell. Il sit on it now and wait and see. You don’t have to actively sell licenses. You can get your own. Sit on the fence. Wait for the external exchange and see what happens.
    For future reference, Google search a coin on bitcointalk before investing. When someone is called a scammer and won't defend themselves it should ring alarm bells. Their previous with onecoin also speaks volumes, that will never hit an exchange and if it does it will end up under 1 cent very quickly.
    Can you get any sort of a refund, a mate of mine invested alot more than you and reckons he can, I don't believe him though, he has bought the hype and believes in it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    The CEO is bring that blogger to court for calling Dascoin a scam. The relationship between dascoin and onecoin is the same person built the Binary platform. When he found out what onecoin was he jumped ship and continued on doing what he does. Build binary payment system for MLM marketing.

    To answer your question. You can’t get a refund. I know guys that have bought 25k license’s and would buy another 1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    So whats the story with Apple pay?

    Also he didnt sue anyone as I read, he got a right of reply and that was that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭✭✭ Keith Dalton


    The story with Applepay is that Dascoin’s version will be DasPay. They will have the same platform as applepay, visa , MasterCard You will be able to spend your Dascoin’s anywhere you can use applepay visa and MasterCard. The company Carta international have a contract signed with Dascoin that they are the only crypto currency that can use the platform. This is the part of the dasCoin project that I can’t look away from. I could not see a company like Carta putting its name to a scam.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    The story with Applepay is that Dascoin’s version will be DasPay. They will have the same platform as applepay, visa , MasterCard You will be able to spend your Dascoin’s anywhere you can use applepay visa and MasterCard. The company Carta international have a contract signed with Dascoin that they are the only crypto currency that can use the platform. This is the part of the dasCoin project that I can’t look away from. I could not see a company like Carta putting its name to a scam.

    I had a look and couldnt find much on this. Just that the President of Carta is also involved with Dascoin. I dont see an exclusive partnership, nor could I see a company like Carta giving away exclusivity.

    Its not really a game changer, sure Gift Voucher Shop, An Post and Dundrum have their own managed cards accepted on terminals. All it would take is for Stripe or Google to open up their APIs to allow a coin wallet be used.

    How can someone lodge money into your account if its a private blockchain?


  • Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭ Drumorig


    The CEO is bring that blogger to court for calling Dascoin a scam. The relationship between dascoin and onecoin is the same person built the Binary platform. When he found out what onecoin was he jumped ship and continued on doing what he does. Build binary payment system for MLM marketing.
    Which one is he taking to court, seems to be a few of them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1636850.0

    To answer your question. You can’t get a refund. I know guys that have bought 25k license’s and would buy another 1.
    Your laughing so, you don't need a refund, sell yours to them people willing to throw another 25k at it.
    Seriously, your getting taken here, I hold a few alts & was asked to look at this by someone I know, I was out after a minute and told him in no uncertain terms he was at the bottom of a pyramid, them lads will get sorted and the mugs with 100-25k investments will be laughed at. They have nothing but stupid grins and bull****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    Quick one Keith, what happens if they miss the milestone on DasPay. What come back do you have?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭ Never wrestle with pigs


    Just found this thread on dascoin and I'm fairly sure it what I thought. A pure scam. Is there somewhere that you can report it before to many get sucked in?


  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭ golfman


    This DasCoin thing absolutely bemuses me. How anyone can not see it for what it really is baffles me. It all sounds rosy until the chat about licences comes in and making money through referrals. Then it just screams PYRAMID SCHEME.

    There's a guy on FB that does live videos every night telling everyone how they're going to become millionaires and lying about how much money he has made through crypto. He then spends the rest of the time trying to convince people its not a scam.

    He's either been completely brainwashed or he's just an out and out scam artist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭ vintagecosmos


    Just saw this.... I didn't think it was still going...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=9yuiwTiTVBE


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 872 martyoo


    Just saw this.... I didn't think it was still going...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=9yuiwTiTVBE

    That chap was heavily involved with Banners Broker.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭ JohnnyFlash


    Just saw this.... I didn't think it was still going...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=share&v=9yuiwTiTVBE

    Would you buy a used car from that man is the question you should be asking yourself..


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  • Registered Users Posts: 27,467 ✭✭✭✭ drunkmonkey


    Someone just told me buy this as it's going to the moon..

    Still in the shaky ico bracket?


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