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Spilt some irish tap water and when it dried left white mineral behind

  • 11-01-2017 9:07am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭


    We have a water softner at home and I accidently spilt some water and never cleaned it right away. When the water evaporated left a white salt-like mineral behind. Is this because of the water softner and why do they say it is safe to drink softened water if that is what is inside it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    chemtrails


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,449 ✭✭✭✭pwurple


    Do you know what water softening is?
    It's adding minerals to water to give it a taste. Calcium and magnesium etc. A quick google will enlighten you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭Pappacharlie


    Did you know that people with blood pressure, heart conditions or pregnant ladies are advised not to drink softened water. Softened water should no be used for preparation babies bottles either.For this reason it is good practise to leave the cold water tap at the kitchen sink unsoftened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    Did you know that people with blood pressure

    we're all fcuked so....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    armabelle wrote: »
    We have a water softner at home and I accidently spilt some water and never cleaned it right away. When the water evaporated left a white salt-like mineral behind. Is this because of the water softner and why do they say it is safe to drink softened water if that is what is inside it?


    It's salt more or less - the water softener removes calcium, magnesium etc and replaces it with sodium

    You'd need to get it tested - too much sodium in yer diet and you'll die prematurely


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    The fact you require a water softner indicates that there's a predisposition to hard water in your area. It's most likely calcium or magnesium carbonate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    Minerals are good for you




    When they're in water.



    And aren't lead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Did you taste it OP?
    Was it salt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    armabelle wrote: »
    We have a water softner at home and I accidently spilt some water and never cleaned it right away. When the water evaporated left a white salt-like mineral behind. Is this because of the water softner and why do they say it is safe to drink softened water if that is what is inside it?

    If what is what is inside it? Some undefined substance? Probably because there are lots of substances that are safe to ingest and whatever it is, is one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    It might also have been a floor cleaner that the water brought out of the floor and left on the surface when it evaporated off.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Pigeons fly over reservoirs occasionally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    That's where the pregnant ladies come from , after the " we're all ****ed " .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭mud


    Lime?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    gctest50 wrote: »
    It's salt more or less - the water softener removes calcium, magnesium etc and replaces it with sodium

    You'd need to get it tested - too much sodium in yer diet and you'll die prematurely

    You'd need to drink around 7-800 litres of water a day to exceed your recommended sodium intake levels. Your bladder would explode before your heart at that rate of intake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    You get what you pay for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭sibergoth


    the stink of bleach off the water is what freaks me out.. i run everything through a brita filter and it seems to do the trick.. no more tea tasting like swimming pools...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭The flying mouse


    Shouldn't mix cocaine with water, everyone knows this or should ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    You'd need to drink around 7-800 litres of water a day to exceed your recommended sodium intake levels. Your bladder would explode before your heart at that rate of intake.
    YOu'd be long dead from water intoxication before your bladder burst. It doesn't take much, drinking too much water in one sitting can cause brain damage, there's probably no reason to drink more than 3 litres in a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Stop being a little b*tch and just snort it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    Could be limescale (calcium carbonate) same stuff that builds up in you kettle and pipes.
    I live in a hard water area and if you leave water in a glass for a day it'll leave a chalky scum on the glass.. yum, also the chlorine smell is muckscusting! I have a kangen filter for the drinking water but when the shower or bath is used the place smells like a swimming pool.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    You'd need to drink around 7-800 litres of water a day to exceed your recommended sodium intake levels. Your bladder would explode before your heart at that rate of intake.

    So you're saying there's a chance


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The water is very hard where my parents live, so they have a big watersoftener in the garage. The water is quite soft anyway where I live so I was surprised at the difference it made after a couple of weeks in my parents. I had skin as soft as a babys bottom and hair as shiny and soft as a soft shiny thing.

    They still used a filter for drinking water all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    ScumLord wrote: »
    YOu'd be long dead from water intoxication before your bladder burst. It doesn't take much, drinking too much water in one sitting can cause brain damage, there's probably no reason to drink more than 3 litres in a day.

    Unless you're mixing your water with fermented wheat hops or barley


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    I grew up with water from our own spring. Full of calcium so the kettles and washing machines didn't last, but it tasted amazing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,827 ✭✭✭fred funk }{


    RO filter all the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭XavierBoThang


    I live near the city centre in Dublin. Always very sensitive towards the taste of water out of a tap. Have bought bottled water for 2 years, it won't change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Had same problem with very hard water. Required industrial sized softener and left the water starting salty. Used a 150 euro reverse osmosis system with remineralisation filter to add back taste post reverse osmosis. Pm me if you want links


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    It's the mind control drug that the CIA put in our water. Wouldn't touch it OP. Make sure you get bottled water.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 475 ✭✭jimmy blevins


    Water softeners work by replacing the calcium with sodium ions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭Rgb.ie


    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    The fact you require a water softner indicates that there's a predisposition to hard water in your area. It's most likely calcium or magnesium carbonate.

    Thanks, it is indeed hard water. Is magnesium what causes limescale?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    biko wrote: »
    Did you taste it OP?
    Was it salt?

    never tasted it but when I shower the water kinda feels like it did when I swam in salt pools in the Atacama desert so I am guessing that it might be salt and when I fill up the brine tank it is with salt pellets. But I thought it was a bit excessive that a small puddle of the stuff would leave behind such a lot of white salt-like mineral on the counter top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    It might also have been a floor cleaner that the water brought out of the floor and left on the surface when it evaporated off.

    isn't life too short to come into forums, think of "clever" lines and then write stuff like this? I can't see the enjoyment personally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    mud wrote: »
    Lime?

    well technically softened water should be lime-free shouldn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    You'd need to drink around 7-800 litres of water a day to exceed your recommended sodium intake levels. Your bladder would explode before your heart at that rate of intake.

    and how do you know how much sodium is in the water in my home?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    armabelle wrote: »
    Thanks, it is indeed hard water. Is magnesium what causes limescale?
    I always figured lime scale is just lime. I don't think you can chemically remove lime from the water, just change it into something else that isn't as obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    sibergoth wrote: »
    the stink of bleach off the water is what freaks me out.. i run everything through a brita filter and it seems to do the trick.. no more tea tasting like swimming pools...

    I also have a brita filter and run the hard water into the filter for drinking and making tea. Do those things seriously reduce limescale because I read that they don't even though they claim too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    Shouldn't mix cocaine with water, everyone knows this or should ...

    it actually looked like cocaine, but so does salt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    cbyrd wrote: »
    Could be limescale (calcium carbonate) same stuff that builds up in you kettle and pipes.
    I live in a hard water area and if you leave water in a glass for a day it'll leave a chalky scum on the glass.. yum, also the chlorine smell is muckscusting! I have a kangen filter for the drinking water but when the shower or bath is used the place smells like a swimming pool.
    but the softner is supposed to remove that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    It's the mind control drug that the CIA put in our water. Wouldn't touch it OP. Make sure you get bottled water.

    bottled is bad stuff, you know Tesco sells Ashbeck mineral water in 5 litres and it supposedly comes from the UK. Do you know how much they sell that for in Midlands where I live? 1.20 euro. Does someone else find this rather uncanny and a little bit against the basic economic principles of import export? To transport a big heavy bottle full of water and only charge 1.20 for it? Be afraid, be very afraid of bottled water.
    FYI, I did send them an email about it, never heard back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    Water softeners work by replacing the calcium with sodium ions.

    so are those sodium ions what got left over from the spill? is this same as salt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I always figured lime scale is just lime. I don't think you can chemically remove lime from the water, just change it into something else that isn't as obvious.

    The Brita filter jug claims to remove limescale. Is this BS?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    armabelle wrote: »
    The Brita filter jug claims to remove limescale. Is this BS?

    It does remove limescale ok., not all but the vast majority of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    ScumLord wrote: »
    I always figured lime scale is just lime. I don't think you can chemically remove lime from the water, just change it into something else that isn't as obvious.

    Its basically a salt in solution, but not the normal table salt we think of, but limestone in the same ground up form. It gets dragged up in solution from limestone aquifers which are underground reservoirs and passages in the limestone rock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭railer201


    armabelle wrote: »
    so are those sodium ions what got left over from the spill? is this same as salt?

    From what I understand harmless quantities of sodium (salt) replace the calcium carbonate (limescale) in the tap water. This may be what you're looking at. Limescale is more of a light brown colour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,058 ✭✭✭whoopsadoodles


    armabelle wrote: »
    bottled is bad stuff, you know Tesco sells Ashbeck mineral water in 5 litres and it supposedly comes from the UK. Do you know how much they sell that for in Midlands where I live? 1.20 euro. Does someone else find this rather uncanny and a little bit against the basic economic principles of import export? To transport a big heavy bottle full of water and only charge 1.20 for it? Be afraid, be very afraid of bottled water.
    FYI, I did send them an email about it, never heard back.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 478 ✭✭sibergoth


    armabelle wrote: »
    I also have a brita filter and run the hard water into the filter for drinking and making tea. Do those things seriously reduce limescale because I read that they don't even though they claim too.

    i don't think I live in a limescale area (kettle isn't full of white flakes) so not sure...

    but i wouldn't drink tap water without filtering it now. the change is very noticeable.

    Tap water from the tap tastes like sh1te.
    Filtered through the Brita and its just normal water.

    I buy a 12 pack of filters from amazon for about 30 odd euro.. lasts a whole year. how bad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    Water softeners work by replacing the calcium with sodium ions.

    do you know about this stuff or did you copy and paste? I have a question if you don't mind that I can't find the answer to and yours might be the right brain to pick. If I put normal table salt (sodium chloride) into my brine tank it apparently has sodium that removes the magnesium and calcium from the hard water in my area and turns it into soft water. However, I have read that the sodium that ends up in your soft water is not actually sodium chloride but sodium bicarbonate which is where I get confused. Why, if I put table salt in the brine tank, does it leave sodium bicarbonate in my soft water?

    could someone smarter than me out there, please chime in on this one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    pwurple wrote: »
    Do you know what water softening is?
    It's adding minerals to water to give it a taste. Calcium and magnesium etc. A quick google will enlighten you.

    ehm no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭armabelle


    gctest50 wrote: »
    It's salt more or less - the water softener removes calcium, magnesium etc and replaces it with sodium

    You'd need to get it tested - too much sodium in yer diet and you'll die prematurely

    Yes! I now realize that it is sodium. Sodium Bicarbonate in fact. But why does it become sodium bicarbonate if the salt I put in is Sodium chloride?


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