Celebrities and their opinions

rob316

Just regarding Meryl Streep yesterday and her speech, does anyone actually care about what they think?

Its ****ing nauseating when I see their rubbish go viral.

whoopsadoodles

If it's making you nauseous then you care far too much.

For what it's worth, I've no idea what speech you're talking about.

Capt'n Midnight

My take on adverts and stuff like this and Scientology is that Actors by definition are people who are paid to lie convincingly.

pilly

I think what she said was important. From a global viewpoint it shows that not all americans support and/or tolerate Trump. They have an opportunity for their words to be heard around the world, why not make it matter.

It may not be that important to me or you but what harm?

elefant

They're as entitled to their opinions as anyone. They just have a much more public stage to air them. It doesn't bother me at all when celebrities share their opinions.

What does annoy me is when their opinions are given extra gravitas because of their public status. Situations like Leonardo DiCaprio or Emma Watson speaking at the UN grate with me.

sbsquarepants

elefant wrote: »

What does annoy me is when their opinions are given extra gravitas because of their public status. Situations like Leonardo DiCaprio or Emma Watson speaking at the UN grate with me.

The UN do fúck all. Emma Watson may as well speak there as anyone else for all the good it does.

Matt_Trakker

I don't care about anything any celebrity or sports player says ever
I barely care about what my wife says, why would I be bothered caring about rich strangers. Waste of time.

gramar

Meryl who?

biko

I suppose it is good that celebs "bring awareness" to various causes - famine, HIV, cancer, etc
Impressionable people will probably think that celebs are smarter than them and has some deeper understanding of the issue at hand, which may not be true at all.

Tom Mann Centuria

biko wrote: »

I suppose it is good that celebs "bring awareness" to various causes - famine, HIV, cancer, etc
Impressionable people will probably think that celebs are smarter than them and has some deeper understanding of the issue at hand, which may not be true at all.

Anti-Vaccination celebrities being a group I find quite irritating.

Ficheall

pilly wrote: »

From a global viewpoint it shows that not all americans support and/or tolerate Trump.

She really let the cat out of the bag there, aye...

silverharp

biko wrote: »

I suppose it is good that celebs "bring awareness" to various causes - famine, HIV, cancer, etc
Impressionable people will probably think that celebs are smarter than them and has some deeper understanding of the issue at hand, which may not be true at all.

I'd imagine many of them were those annoying high strung kids in school , I don't see how they should have morphed in to sages of our age when they are older.

meeeeh

The only thing about the last speech is that it came a bit late. Anyway Meryl Streep doing politics is a lot less annoying than Russell Brand doing politics. There are certain celebrities who you just roll the eyes when they publicize their opinions.

Did Rosanna Davidson cure the cancer yet with gluten free diet?

humanji

elefant wrote: »

They're as entitled to their opinions as anyone. They just have a much more public stage to air them. It doesn't bother me at all when celebrities share their opinions.

What does annoy me is when their opinions are given extra gravitas because of their public status. Situations like Leonardo DiCaprio or Emma Watson speaking at the UN grate with me.

I'd be the opposite. Celebrities are called to speak at the UN because of causes they support and their celebrity brings attention to that cause. I don't really have an issue with that. It's like anyone campaigning for anything, they want to bring attention to it.

But I do find it more grating when they hijack award shows to go on about these causes. It's not the place for it, I feel.

I do find the faux outrage from Trump supporters to be hilarious. It always happens with these political statements, where people harp on and on that celebrities shouldn't be allowed to voice their opinion, followed quickly by how overrated a celebrity they are (despite the fact the people were often fans beforehand).

It's all terribly silly. Which is a good thing.

pilly

Ficheall wrote: »

She really let the cat out of the bag there, aye...

You'd be surprised. I have young people asking me "what's wrong with the Americans? Voting for Trump?". The whole country have been labelled gob****es by some.

AnneFrank

Donald Trump was voted in, they need to get over it, it's democracy by their rules.
This woman had ties to the Clintons so she was hardly partial,

osarusan

elefant wrote: »

What does annoy me is when their opinions are given extra gravitas because of their public status. Situations like Leonardo DiCaprio or Emma Watson speaking at the UN grate with me.

I don't necessarily think their opinions are given extra gravitas - just that Di Caprio talking about whatever cause he supports will be more widely publicised and raise more awareness than a speech from some relatively unknown doctor/social worker even though they are the head of the whole thing.

That doesn't bother me, as that's what they are there for. It's when (as humanji mentioned) that they try and shoehorn it in on occasions where it isn't expected, that annoys me.

Professor Moriarty

osarusan wrote: »

I don't necessarily think their opinions are given extra gravitas - just that Di Caprio talking about whatever cause he supports will be more widely publicised and raise more awareness than a speech from some relatively unknown doctor/social worker even though they are the head of the whole thing.

That doesn't bother me, as that's what they are there for. It's when (as humanji mentioned) that they try and shoehorn it in on occasions where it isn't expected, that annoys me.

Good point. Perhaps The Donald will talk about the New York Giants' chances of a Superbowl during his inauguration speech. Actually, come to think of it, that's not an impossibility.

super_furry

Yeah! People need to stop saying things I don't agree with!

elefant

osarusan wrote: »

I don't necessarily think their opinions are given extra gravitas - just that Di Caprio talking about whatever cause he supports will be more widely publicised and raise more awareness than a speech from some relatively unknown doctor/social worker even though they are the head of the whole thing.

I completely understand where you're coming from, and can see why they're being paraded to raise awareness, but I just find it jarring that Emma Watson should have the attention of the UN, when there are thousands of other better qualified experts and academics who have dedicated their lives to studying, understanding and working on similar issues, and will never get the chance to speak on that stage.

It's a PR exercise sure, but it just seems wrong that being chosen as a child to act in a film can put someone in a position to have their views being given extra credence by a serious organisation like the UN.

For me, an awards ceremony is an actors' time and stage, and I think they should be free to express themselves however they want in their own time.

AudreyHepburn

rob316 wrote: »

Just regarding Meryl Streep yesterday and her speech, does anyone actually care about what they think?

Its ****ing nauseating when I see their rubbish go viral.

Why shouldn't they have thoughts, ideas, opinion? Why should they be denied the right to voice them?

If it bothers you that much then I suggest it's you that has the problem not them.

osarusan

elefant wrote: »

I completely understand where you're coming from, and can see why they're being paraded to raise awareness, but I just find it jarring that Emma Watson should have the attention of the UN, when there are thousands of other better qualified experts and academics who have dedicated their lives to studying, understanding and working on similar issues, and will never get the chance to speak on that stage.

It's a PR exercise sure, but it just seems wrong that being chosen as a child to act in a film can put someone in a position to have their views being given credence by a serious organisation like the UN.

As a society we like obviously celebrities and listen to what they have to say.

I've posted before about how we see tv shows in which people like...say... Davina McCall travel round South America to learn about...say...traditional music*. It would probably be far more informative to have some expert in South American music present instead, but not as many people would watch it.

We see it with Celebrity Masterchef, Celebrity Apprentice, Celebrity everything...even in Ireland we have Celebrity Bainisteoir. Time and time again, we'd rather watch celebrities than people who are really members of that profession.

(*no idea if that particular combination of presenter and topic has happened, but you get the idea)

brevity

AnneFrank wrote: »

Donald Trump was voted in, they need to get over it, it's democracy by their rules.

Would Donal Trump get "get over it" if he lost in the manner Clinton did? Probably not. And his rabid clan of followers wouldn't either.

As I see it they (celebrities) have as much right as anyone else to complain about what politicians do and say.

The only problem I see is anything said about him is going to result in him whining on Twitter which takes attention away from the bigger picture and the damage he and his cabinet will do.

Arne_Saknussem

What's her beef with Football & MMA fans??

OldGoat

People have opinions. It's up to you to decide if that opinion should be given any credence or credibility. Due to the actors corps d'elite position you are put in a position where you have to hear their opinions (ad infinitum it would seem) but you are not obliged to pay any attention to them.

The quality of the acting skills of the actor does not add (nor detract) weight to their opinion.

The true test of any opinion is if you can hear it in your head recited by Bono and still agree with it.

Trent Houseboat

Did she say something treasonous like:

"He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country"
or
"The phoney electoral college made a laughing stock out of our nation. The loser one"

I agree that any celebrity who said the above should be run out of town on a rail.

Hans Bricks

That golden globes ceremony was more like a we hate trump rally for bitter adult babies and sore losers.

Hollywood have been nothing but cringe inducing since Trump gained traction in the run up to the election.

Between that nauseating "most important" YouTube video by a smug Robert Downey junior and other po faced celebrities and last night's rolley eyes inducing rant by meryl, I can't blame people for getting a bit fed up being patronised by enterainers sometimes. Imagine what the prestigious Oscars is gonna be like in march ? Prepare the puke bucket.

murpho999

Whatever about her opinion, it did get Trump to retort that she's an over-rated actress, and it's the first thing I've agreed with him on.

It's amazing that they still haven't learned that criticising Trump like that isn't helping.

valoren

After she (among others) stood and applauded a child rapist at the 2003 Oscars, chastising a democratically elected president makes you look hypocritical.

For what it's worth, I think she misjudged her angle of attack by focusing on him 'acting' the bully.
She would have been better to go with the idea that a billionaire pretending to give a **** about the man on the street was the acting performance of the year.

AndyBoBandy

gramar wrote: »

Meryl who?

Remember the bank that went t1ts up a few years ago, caused the whole global melt down, Meryl Lynch? yeah well this one was the Meryl half of the equation.

Turns out she sold her story, and their making a movie about her so thats why she was speaking at the golden globes.

jobbridge4life

A celebrity is the President-elect, and whats more a whinging, entitled blowhard celebrity. So if you are going to start bleating on about celebrity opinions maybe start with the one with his tiny fingers on the nuclear launch codes.

Turtyturd

Hands up who cares about the OP's opinion......nobody?

GerryDerpy

She can fcuk off. Crying on stage spouting shoite with all the psychophants nodding their heads.

Being given such a platform to talk, she has a responsibility to not say retarded things. She failed.

PS I didn't get her bashing of Mixed Martial Arts and her ignorance of the non-US participation. The biggest star of the sport is a foreigner (McGregor) and there are a huge amount of Brazilian fighters.

ebbsy

Well Hillary had all the celebs behind her and still could not make president, so possibly they d'ont carry that much weight ?

fizzypish

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Anti-Vaccination celebrities being a group I find quite irritating.

I used to think, F'em they'll all get killed off but saw something a few years back that basically said the non vaccinated people will bring down the effectiveness of vaccines in general and vacc'd people will contract the ailment too. Sad face. Maybe their right (I don't think so), I'm no doctor.

Penn

I find most people who dismiss what a celebrity says because "They're a celebrity/liberal/'out of touch with the common person'/elitist" does so because they don't actually have a rebuttal for what that person said.

Donald Trump mocked a disabled person. Fact. Discussing the validity of the person who pointed this out ignores the validity of what they said.

pilly

GerryDerpy wrote: »

She can fcuk off. Crying on stage spouting shoite with all the psychophants nodding their heads.

Being given such a platform to talk, she has a responsibility to not say retarded things. She failed.

PS I didn't get her bashing of Mixed Martial Arts and her ignorance of the non-US participation. The biggest star of the sport is a foreigner (McGregor) and there are a huge amount of Brazilian fighters.

What exactly was retarded about what she said?

Penn

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Being given such a platform to talk, she has a responsibility to not say retarded things. She failed.

Do you hold Trump to the same standard? Because you shouldn't. As President-Elect and soon to be President, he has to be held to an even greater standard.

Will you hold him to such a standard and decry him when he says dumb sh*t?

Trent Houseboat

Penn wrote:

Do you hold Trump to the same standard? Because you shouldn't. As President-Elect and soon to be President, he has to be held to an even greater standard.

Will you hold him to such a standard and decry him when he says dumb sh*t?

I think you mean if he says something stupid. He might continue his track record of never looking like a gobsh*te with the vocabulary of an six year old or flip flopping on every issue.

humanji

valoren wrote: »

After she (among others) stood and applauded a child rapist at the 2003 Oscars, chastising a democratically elected president makes you look hypocritical.

Who was that?

Penn

Trent Houseboat wrote: »

I think you mean if he says something stupid.

No. I definitely, absolutely, 100% mean when.

Zebra3

It's a pity MS didn't speak out about Obama slaughtering people in seven different countries.

I'm no fan of Trump, but you'd swear Obama and Clinton were some sort of saints. Obama was pretty much a continuation of Bush II (the wars, Gitmo, spying on US citizens, stooge of Wall St, the so-called defence industry and Israel) but hey, he played the guitar and is black!!!

Arne_Saknussem

humanji wrote: »

Who was that?

Roman Polanski

GerryDerpy

pilly wrote: »

What exactly was retarded about what she said?

I gave an example.

Clarebelly

The saving grace was that Vince Vaughan, Mel Gibson, and Viggo Mortensen failed to clap her little pep talk.
Colin Farrell did clap, but a real half-hearted slow clap.
So it seems that Hollywood may not be such a hive mind after all.

GerryDerpy

Penn wrote: »

Do you hold Trump to the same standard? Because you shouldn't. As President-Elect and soon to be President, he has to be held to an even greater standard.

Will you hold him to such a standard and decry him when he says dumb sh*t?

Of course. I'm not a trump fan just because I think Meryl Streep was being a bell end.

humanji

Arne_Saknussem wrote: »

Roman Polanski

Cheers, didn't realise he'd won one.

Clarebelly

On the subject of MMA and elections, you have this legend.........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V8IhBEKbwk

Penn

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Of course. I'm not a trump fan just because I think Meryl Streep was being a bell end.

Apologies, and fair enough. It's more so my thinking regarding his supporters in general.

pilly

Clarebelly wrote: »

The saving grace was that Vince Vaughan, Mel Gibson, and Viggo Mortensen failed to clap her little pep talk.
Colin Farrell did clap, but a real half-hearted slow clap.
So it seems that Hollywood may not be such a hive mind after all.

"Mel Gibson" didn't clap? Seriously? I'd be worried if that psycho did clap!