Calf prices 2017

Mooooo

3 month old aa bull 320,
2 6 week old bb heifers 280 each
Bandon

charolais0153

Mooooo wrote: »

3 month old aa bull 320,
2 6 week old bb heifers 280 each
Bandon

Let the madness begin

Mooooo

charolais0153 wrote: »

Let the madness begin

Wasn't there myself, one of the bb was a big calf and seeing as they made the same Haulier likely put em in together, so she may of raised the price for the other one. Wasn't sure what way the Angus would go, will have some going next week a month younger and they could make the same you'd never know with early sales

moll3

anybody sell/buy calves lately ?

simx

2 ch heifers 3 weeks old 295 each in the yard, know a lad getting 370/380 for month old Bb bulls

whelan2

Any prices for aa bulls and heifers, friesian bulls and bb bulls? Looking at prices from marts in the journal they look mad

Pidae.m

Suck fr calves 8-10 day old about €60 yesterday in macroom

Mooooo wrote: »

3 month old aa bull 320,
2 6 week old bb heifers 280 each
Bandon

Pidae.m

The 5/6 week old fr calf is very scarce.

whelan2 wrote: »

Any prices for aa bulls and heifers, friesian bulls and bb bulls? Looking at prices from marts in the journal they look mad

jaymla627

whelan2 wrote: »

Any prices for aa bulls and heifers, friesian bulls and bb bulls? Looking at prices from marts in the journal they look mad

Sold 2 bb bulls yesterday in the yard for 350 a piece at 10 days old, they where good square calves though

CloughCasey1

jaymla627 wrote: »

Sold 2 bb bulls yesterday in the yard for 350 a piece at 10 days old, they where good square calves though

Dont care how square they are with the way things are looking he would hardly get that for them as runners. Bought 3 runners all june calves in Nov. Two O-grade hex and a R-grade bbx for 360 each. Looking like i wont be buying sucks this year as will be way too much risk at those prices.

The Cuban

Mad prices for calves alright, I picked up 5 black lim heifers last week, born april 16 €405 inc commission
In the calf ring next door I saw a lim heifer calf make €350, calf wasn't 10 days old.

whelan2

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Dont care how square they are with the way things are looking he would hardly get that for them as runners. Bought 3 runners all june calves in Nov. Two O-grade hex and a R-grade bbx for 360 each. Looking like i wont be buying sucks this year as will be way too much risk at those prices.

Think the prices in the journal are mad. They can be bought cheaper off farm

jimini0

Can any of ye explain why lads are paying silly money for suck calves? I see reports of chx lmx and bbx 400-500 for 5 or 6 week old calves. Surely continental calves from freisan or Holstein cows will never compete with a suckler calf. I sold a couple of weanlings in September chx bull 320kg 730 and lmx heifer 280kg 680. These were 6 months old and out of aax cows. I'm seriously confused why dairy calves are being sold for such big money.

Who2

jimini0 wrote: »

Can any of ye explain why lads are paying silly money for suck calves? I see reports of chx lmx and bbx 400-500 for 5 or 6 week old calves. Surely continental calves from freisan or Holstein cows will never compete with a suckler calf. I sold a couple of weanlings in September chx bull 320kg 730 and lmx heifer 280kg 680. These were 6 months old and out of aax cows. I'm seriously confused why dairy calves are being sold for such big money.

You'll find the big prices are for ones off suckler cows with no milk or that died. Snobbery and stupidity would be a lot of why calves make this money, they wouldn't have it said they had a bad calf around the place.

mycro2013

Who2 wrote: »

You'll find the big prices are for ones off suckler cows with no milk or that died. Snobbery and stupidity would be a lot of why calves make this money, they wouldn't have it said they had a bad calf around the place.

They keep forgetting thé most important mantra in farming or any business. It's not turnover, it's whats leftover.

jaymla627

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Dont care how square they are with the way things are looking he would hardly get that for them as runners. Bought 3 runners all june calves in Nov. Two O-grade hex and a R-grade bbx for 360 each. Looking like i wont be buying sucks this year as will be way too much risk at those prices.

Theyre off two square br fr cows, done right they will be fine lumps of weanlings that will kill out r/u grade all day long when they're hung up....
He has another 25 booked at similiar money and i have two other customers for all my bb heifers at 300 a piece average....
All repeat customers from last year too, i dont understand the logic of paying 350 for a 10 day old blue suck either but calf prices for any kind of quality continential in my area are always 350 plus

jimini0

So if I was looking for a couple of good heifers. Aax or hopefully black LM that would be 4 or 5 month old how much would I expect to pay?

mahoney_j

No offence to a lot of beef men but they never learn ,a dairy man is a seller who wants best price he can get ,it's up to buyer to know what that calf is really worth if he pays silly prices that his problem .calf trade is early days yet and I take a lot of those prices with a large pinch of salt .youll see real calf prices from mid Feb on

simx

Seems I'm selling calves too cheap at this rate ha, sold 2 ch heifers 295 each one bull at 370 done a deal the other day for 5 bulls 5 heifers 315 a peice I'm happy enough didn't go near a mart yet and all gone at 7/10 days

blackdog1

I get between 120-150 for autumn holstein calves and 100-120 for spring. Have a farmer buyer and prices don't go up in a good year or down in a bad and were both happy.

Cavanjack

As far as I can see it's the dealers that are driving calf prices up, killing other over them. Of course then the farmer that is buying the calf off the dealer is worse.
"That's the price of them" the dealer tells you.
Calves are usually overpriced and it comes as no surprise that this year will be the same.

Morris Moss

Anybody sell any fr bull calves or Angus lately, any prices?

Pidae.m

€51 for Holstein bulls 2 weeks old.

Morris Moss wrote: »

Anybody sell any fr bull calves or Angus lately, any prices?

Pidae.m

About €185 to €220 for good strong fr 5/6 weeks old.

Pidae.m wrote: »

€51 for Holstein bulls 2 weeks old.

Morris Moss

Sold 5 fr bulls, 5 aa heifers and 2 aa bulls in Kilkenny today, calves were only 2 weeks old which is probably why they went so poorly, anyway from bulls made from 180 to 75, 3 of them about the 120 mark, Aa heifers averaged 150 and the 2 bulls just over 200.

_Brian

Not sure the lad was exaggerating or not but I was told continental calves in carrigallen were making north of €500, He north of €300

Morris Moss

_Brian wrote: »

Not sure the lad was exaggerating or not but I was told continental calves in carrigallen were making north of €500, He north of €300

If they were a month old I'd believe it for the Hereford anyway, that was the ballpark for them in Kilkenny , didn't stay for continentals so don't know bout them.

visatorro

Morris Moss wrote: »

Sold 5 fr bulls, 5 aa heifers and 2 aa bulls in Kilkenny today, calves were only 2 weeks old which is probably why they went so poorly, anyway from bulls made from 180 to 75, 3 of them about the 120 mark, Aa heifers averaged 150 and the 2 bulls just over 200.

Was offered 80 in yard for friesans no matter what age, ranging from week old to nearly reared. 220 for month old HR heifers and 240 for HR bulls. Heading for wicklow. I was actually offended he offered me week old prices for reared calves. He rang said he was passing and I said come in and you can bid me. I didn't deal but I'm not sure when I'll get to a mart either,

whelan2

visatorro wrote: »

Was offered 80 in yard for friesans no matter what age, ranging from week old to nearly reared. 220 for month old HR heifers and 240 for HR bulls. Heading for wicklow. I was actually offended he offered me week old prices for reared calves. He rang said he was passing and I said come in and you can bid me. I didn't deal but I'm not sure when I'll get to a mart either,

He's taking the piss, put them on donedeal. When would he be paying you?

Morris Moss

visatorro wrote: »

Was offered 80 in yard for friesans no matter what age, ranging from week old to nearly reared. 220 for month old HR heifers and 240 for HR bulls. Heading for wicklow. I was actually offended he offered me week old prices for reared calves. He rang said he was passing and I said come in and you can bid me. I didn't deal but I'm not sure when I'll get to a mart either,

Chancing his arm with ya, as whelan said throw them on done deal or if ya have any neighbours looking give them a shout.

visatorro

Yeah, week old calf is probably only work 80 out of yard. I'm testing in a couple of weeks so I'll fill the trailer then I think.

No payment from that fella. You'd have to wait.

simx

Morris Moss wrote: »

If they were a month old I'd believe it for the Hereford anyway, that was the ballpark for them in Kilkenny , didn't stay for continentals so don't know bout them.

Kilkenny is a strange calf sale I think, some well known lads with nice calves get good money, lesser known lads get okish money and some good prices then 2/3 through sale half the place Goes and fr bulls drop off a cliff

deise toffee

Anybody selling 1-2 week old Holstein/friesian bull calves,how much should they be making?

Pidae.m

€50

deise toffee wrote: »

Anybody selling 1-2 week old Holstein/friesian bull calves,how much should they be making?

whelan2

Had a lad here yesterday offering 60 euro for 2 week old br/fr bull calves still on the cow :eek: he didnt get them- there are some chancers out there

blackdog1

whelan2 wrote:

Had a lad here yesterday offering 60 euro for 2 week old br/fr bull calves still on the cow he didnt get them- there are some chancers out there

Some farmers have no value in calves. They want the bull calves in and out as soon as possible...he'll get plenty customers.

White Clover

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a lad here yesterday offering 60 euro for 2 week old br/fr bull calves still on the cow :eek: he didnt get them- there are some chancers out there[/quote

Imo Whelan that's all they're worth. The price of something and what something is worth are two different things. ]

whelan2

White Clover wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a lad here yesterday offering 60 euro for 2 week old br/fr bull calves still on the cow :eek: he didnt get them- there are some chancers out there[/quote

Imo Whelan that's all they're worth. The price of something and what something is worth are two different things. ]

If I brought them to the mart I would get alot more than that tbf and payment on the day, these are good square calves still on the cow

kk.man

Is there much of a risk buying a fr cow with calves..lets say she is quite..
Or is it trouble?

dar31

whelan2 wrote: »

White Clover wrote: »

If I brought them to the mart I would get alot more than that tbf and payment on the day, these are good square calves still on the cow

Fr bulls €55-90.
6-11 days old.
Carnew mart.
Kiwi cross bulls €25-40

whelan2

dar31 wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

Fr bulls €55-90.
6-11 days old.
Carnew mart.
Kiwi cross bulls €25-40

most of them would not still be on the cow though

White Clover

whelan2 wrote: »

dar31 wrote: »

most of them would not still be on the cow though

Lads on the dairy thread reckon it costs 1500 to get a friesian heifer to 2 year old.
A friesian bullock would have similar costs to get to that age and would not be worth 1200 at 2 years old. Do your sums from there......

whelan2

White Clover wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

Lads on the dairy thread reckon it costs 1500 to get a friesian heifer to 2 year old.
A friesian bullock would have similar costs to get to that age and would not be worth 1200 at 2 years old. Do your sums from there......

I got 80 euro cash for them today. 20 euro differnce , no mart fees. Same lad said the market for weak calves to holland is gone. I commented that my calves are not weak calves

Base price

whelan2 wrote: »

White Clover wrote: »

I got 80 euro cash for them today. 20 euro differnce , no mart fees. Same lad said the market for weak calves to holland is gone. I commented that my calves are not weak calves

As far as I know (heresay) reputable exporters are currently paying €85/hd delivered to their yards for FR bull calves suitable for the Dutch market. IMO an agent would have to be paying sub €60/hd in order to cover costs/turn a profit.

Cavanjack

White Clover wrote: »

whelan2 wrote: »

Lads on the dairy thread reckon it costs 1500 to get a friesian heifer to 2 year old.
A friesian bullock would have similar costs to get to that age and would not be worth 1200 at 2 years old. Do your sums from there......

There are 2 year old Friesian bullocks near 500kg struggling to make €800 in the marts. As calves are they even worth taking for free?

White Clover

Cavanjack wrote: »

White Clover wrote: »

There are 2 year old Friesian bullocks near 500kg struggling to make €800 in the marts. As calves are they even worth taking for free?

My point exactly. You'd want them delivered into the yard at 12 weeks of age along with a tonne of ration for every 5 to get them to leave a margin.

Base price

White Clover wrote: »

Cavanjack wrote: »

My point exactly. You'd want them delivered into the yard at 12 weeks of age along with a tonne of ration for every 5 to get them to leave a margin.

I remember when I first started rearing b&w bull calves 30 odd years ago. In those days calves were mostly 100% British Friesian and made good square R type grading cattle. My late Uncle said to me at the time that you'd need a milch cow free with every 8 calves that ye bought in order to make a return on them.

pedigree 6

Just for a bit of balance a neighbour is getting 150 for friesian bulls.

Repeat buyer.

C4d78

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Just for a bit of balance a neighbour is getting 150 for friesian bulls.

Repeat buyer.

What age as a matter of interest?

GrasstoMilk

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Just for a bit of balance a neighbour is getting 150 for friesian bulls.

Repeat buyer.

Did you put you in contact with that buyer?

pedigree 6

C4d78 wrote: »

What age as a matter of interest?

Coming up to the 6 weeks I suppose.