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Drink driving

  • 03-01-2017 7:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Get a solicitor. Find a way to afford one.

    And don't drink and drive. 80mg? And six months driving? You'll have the book thrown at you. The heavy one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    was thinking as much, I deserve everything I get,
    Thanks :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Even if they don't hammer you for it, good luck affording your insurance on your next renewal. You'll want to go full time and start eating only beans now to save up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Hanwellian


    I can't believe you would advertise the fact that you were drink driving on here, no sympathy, big fine, and driving ban 2 years with any luck.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    was thinking as much, I deserve everything I get,
    Thanks :(

    Was the 80 mg a breath or blood test?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    breath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    The formal implementation of the Road Traffic Act 2010 will see the general drink-driving limit reduced from 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood to 50mg.

    Learner, novice and professional drivers face even harsher restrictions: The limit for such categories will fall to 20mg.

    It means that just one alcoholic drink — a pint of beer, a glass of wine or a single measure of spirits — could push many motorists over the legal limit.

    Source: The Irish Examiner Nov 2011


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Get a solicitor- you could see a custodial sentence. Expect a long ban


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭boardsuser1


    cnoc wrote: »
    The formal implementation of the Road Traffic Act 2010 will see the general drink-driving limit reduced from 80mg of alcohol per 100ml of blood to 50mg.

    Learner, novice and professional drivers face even harsher restrictions: The limit for such categories will fall to 20mg.

    It means that just one alcoholic drink — a pint of beer, a glass of wine or a single measure of spirits — could push many motorists over the legal limit.

    Source: The Irish Examiner Nov 2011

    The OP was 4 times the legal limit, who is the judge in their local court?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 649 ✭✭✭sidcon




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    endacl wrote: »
    Get a solicitor. Find a way to afford one.

    And don't drink and drive. 80mg? And six months driving? You'll have the book thrown at you. The heavy one.

    You may qualify for Legal Aid. Find out that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭clairek6


    Four times over the learner limit you deserve the harsh punishment that is coming.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    clairek6 wrote: »
    Four times over the learner limit you deserve the harsh punishment that is coming.

    Almost TEN times over the breath limit of 9mg for a learner driver!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    dont think its 10 times in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    You won't get jail, but maybe a 2-3 year ban. Were you driving unaccompanied, with or without L plates.

    You shouldn't have done it, but it's happened, so hire a solicitor and don't stress over it. You were not involved in an accident and nobody died.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    You won't get jail, but maybe a 2-3 year ban. Were you driving unaccompanied, with or without L plates.

    You shouldn't have done it, but it's happened, so hire a solicitor and don't stress over it. You were not involved in an accident and nobody died.

    You can't say they won't. Depends on the judge. Such a careless attitude to drink driving could be severely punished


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    dont think its 10 times in fairness

    Read the link from Stheno. Other drivers (ie drivers that aren't classed as "experienced") breath limit is 9 micrograms of alcohol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    yes I will go see 1 tomorrow thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Op you obviously didnt see the advert on tv of the mother in hospital , the nurse , the guards, the ambalance man , reaction to the death the little boy killed due to a head collition with drunk driver, found this advert hard hitting, thought to my self who can drink and drive after watching that, heartbreaking.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    yes I have read that, its 9mg of alcohol , so I was way over :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    You won't get jail, but maybe a 2-3 year ban. Were you driving unaccompanied, with or without L plates.

    You shouldn't have done it, but it's happened, so hire a solicitor and don't stress over it. You were not involved in an accident and nobody died.

    Doesn't make it ok. It's wreckless driving imho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    I was moving my car 100 meters when I was stopped but it was public road. its no excuse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 997 ✭✭✭MrJones1973


    You were unlucky if it was only 100 meters you were driving. Really-only 100?

    Get the best solicitor you can. There are about 20 points of law to be proving on a drink driving case. Most cops would prefer if a guilty plea got you less of a ban as cases do get thrown out on technicalities and no matter what anybody says here-we would all take a technicality if in your position.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    mansize wrote: »
    Doesn't make it ok. It's wreckless driving imho

    Where did I say it was ok??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Where did I say it was ok??

    You were not involved in an accident and nobody died- that's irrelevant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    I was moving my car 100 meters when I was stopped but it was public road. its no excuse

    Why had you to move the car 100m?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭dtipp


    Interesting how many have commented simply to turn the screw, and note how they feel the OP should be ashamed and treated as harshly as possible. The OP is not defending their action, and it is already done, so your tone of haughty disdain is of no relevance or worth (unless you count making yourself feel better than someone else).

    OP, getting a solicitor is the obvious first step.
    And, whatever you do, don't put yourself in the position of ever doing it again.

    Seems you will be at the mercy of the judge on the day - do the obvious, dress smartly for court, look remorseful, make sure the solicitor explains how it was a 100-metre act of stupidity (i.e. you weren't weaving your way down a motorway!) and that you'd never dream of doing something like that again.

    Any chance you have a job/or something that absolutely needs a car. It'd be worth pleading that a ban would have a huge impact on your life. Judges have discretion and are human - they see 50-time offenders every day, so they often want to give a first-time offender a break.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    dtipp wrote: »
    Interesting how many have commented simply to turn the screw, and note how they feel the OP should be ashamed and treated as harshly as possible. The OP is not defending their action, and it is already done, so your tone of haughty disdain is of no relevance or worth (unless you count making yourself feel better than someone else).

    OP, getting a solicitor is the obvious first step.
    And, whatever you do, don't put yourself in the position of ever doing it again.

    Seems you will be at the mercy of the judge on the day - do the obvious, dress smartly for court, look remorseful, make sure the solicitor explains how it was a 100-metre act of stupidity (i.e. you weren't weaving your way down a motorway!) and that you'd never dream of doing something like that again.

    Any chance you have a job/or something that absolutely needs a car. It'd be worth pleading that a ban would have a huge impact on your life. Judges have discretion and are human - they see 50-time offenders every day, so they often want to give a first-time offender a break.

    I dont think there is any discretion with drink driving penalties?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stheno wrote: »
    I dont think there is any discretion with drink driving penalties?

    There is I have seen them giving a fine.

    I was in court a few months back.

    61 year old male driving a punto without nct,tax or insurance and on top his provisional licence as it was old type was well expired years to be blunt. Forgot the icing on the cake he was over the limit with drink.

    He was given a small fine but no ban.
    I couldn't believe it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    There is I have seen them giving a fine.

    I was in court a few months back.

    61 year old male driving a punto without nct,tax or insurance and on top his provisional licence as it was old type was well expired years to be blunt. Forgot the icing on the cake he was over the limit with drink.

    He was given a small fine but no ban.
    I couldn't believe it.

    Wow kind of makes a mockery of the statement that court penalties are the minimum you can expect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stheno wrote: »
    Wow kind of makes a mockery of the statement that court penalties are the minimum you can expect

    My jaw nearly hit the floor.

    He had legal aid and hasn't worked so judge wasn't too keen on big fine and because of his age he said you won't do it again now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    mansize wrote: »
    You were not involved in an accident and nobody died- that's irrelevant

    Think I said You shouldn't have done it !!!! Meaning it's not ok..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,633 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    I get the whole thing of the older generation doing it as it was the done thing and quite normal.
    Sure I myself started years ago on bikes and onto cars.
    There was nothing stopping you say drinking up to 5am getting up for work at 7am and driving.

    Its the latest younger generations doing it now and no need to whatsoever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,759 ✭✭✭degsie


    Such high-horse brigadeness in this thread. OP I'd advise stop reading this thread and go see a solicitor as you have already acknowledged. You sought advise and you have it now, leave it at that.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Denny_Crane


    I really wish people would think before posting about possible custodial sentences. Okay I didn't see the OP but I assume as It's not been repeated they didn't mow anyone down, just got caught or had a tip. I also realise you're saying it to underscore a point but please think!

    A custodial sentence is HIGHLY unlikely. What is possible though is some idiot - in a vulnerable state - coming on to boards, being told by someone that they're possibly going to prison and then someone does something stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    thank you, I was hoping people who have been in my situation would post about what happened to them. so best to just go see a solicitor in the morning and take it from there, and for all the Judges on here, I deserve everything that comes my way , lets hope its never any of your stories :(


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    thank you, I was hoping people who have been in my situation would post about what happened to them. so best to just go see a solicitor in the morning and take it from there, and for all the Judges on here, I deserve everything that comes my way , lets hope its never any of your stories :(

    Yes go and see a solicitor. I imagine it will be a while before you get a summons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Stheno wrote: »
    I dont think there is any discretion with drink driving penalties?

    There is I have seen them giving a fine.

    I was in court a few months back.

    61 year old male driving a punto without nct,tax or insurance and on top his provisional licence as it was old type was well expired years to be blunt. Forgot the icing on the cake he was over the limit with drink.

    He was given a small fine but no ban.
    I couldn't believe it.

    Any court conviction for drink driving carries a mandatory disqualification of various lenghts of time, a judge can't legally fail to hand down a disqualification.

    The only time a disqualification does not happen is under the FCPN for certain levels of intoxication for experienced drivers. The 61 year old probably received the FCPN for the alcohol and paid it meaning he was immune to prosecution for that particular offence and was in court for the other issues.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭Denny_Crane


    thank you, I was hoping people who have been in my situation would post about what happened to them. so best to just go see a solicitor in the morning and take it from there, and for all the Judges on here, I deserve everything that comes my way , lets hope its never any of your stories :(

    Many years ago I got lifted for something. Hopefully it's the very first and last time you ever have any interaction with the Guards in this capacity. It scared me ****less. Speak to a solicitor and if you feel the stress getting to you speak to your GP.

    You'll come out the other side of it and you won't do it again. Boards is a terrible place to post stuff like this for everyone that wants to help you'll get ten scoring a cheap shot, I'm not averse to being in the latter camp myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Look op you sound like your genuinely sorry for what you did and i say you would never do it again, can understand the reaction of posts because there are people who drink drive all the time and just get way with it, dont let this take over your life with worry, see a solicitor, 2 year ban and fine id say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    they gave me a date for court in the Garda station, the end of January.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    they gave me a date for court in the Garda station, the end of January.

    Wow thats quick but at least you know. Did you get a copy of your test results? If you did bring that with you when you go to the solicitor.

    Try and find one who deals with your local court regularly as they will know the judges and be able to give you an idea of what penalty you might get


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    yes I got a copy of the test results. they told me to bring it with me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    yes I got a copy of the test results. they told me to bring it with me.

    Did they do the blood test too?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    I've seen 3 day turn arounds from charge to court date for Drink Driving.

    I never said a custodial sentence was likely - I said it was a possibility and emphasised the need for a solicitor.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    newacc2015 wrote: »
    Did they do the blood test too?

    It's not necessary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    what is a 3 day turn around ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭berniepixie


    no they didn't do bloods


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    what is a 3 day turn around ?

    In court 3 days after offence date


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