duck shooting

sniperman

after the recent discovery of a duck with bird flu,(seen it on the news) should we be concerned about shooting and eating wild duck,or any other wild fowl for that matter?

Lawless_IRE

Just spotted this on fb. Cant link as im a new user. And i know its not the best of sources but came from joe.ie.


A particular strain of bird flu has been discovered in a variety of wild duck, known as a wigeon, in County Wexford.

The avian influenza subtype H5N8 was confirmed by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine after the bird was found alive, but unable to fly, in Wexford town on 28 December.

According to The Irish Times, although the H5N8 subtype can cause serious disease to poultry and other birds, no human infections have been reported worldwide with this particular virus .

Risk to humans is considered to be low.

sniperman

Lawless_IRE wrote: »

Just spotted this on fb. Cant link as im a new user. And i know its not the best of sources but came from joe.ie.


A particular strain of bird flu has been discovered in a variety of wild duck, known as a wigeon, in County Wexford.

The avian influenza subtype H5N8 was confirmed by the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine after the bird was found alive, but unable to fly, in Wexford town on 28 December.

According to The Irish Times, although the H5N8 subtype can cause serious disease to poultry and other birds, no human infections have been reported worldwide with this particular virus .

Risk to humans is considered to be low.

risk to humans low............still would rather not eat one

Springwell

Cooking kills the virus.

Eddie B

It's as much a risk as someone getting the mixi! Although I've seen a few contenders the morning after a night out on the town.

grassroot1

The human risk is minimal, I would be more concerned with its impact on our birdlife

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

sniperman wrote:

risk to humans low............still would rather not eat one

Yeah I think I'll stay away from shooting /eating game for the minute!

shooting101

What should you do now then? Have a duck from yesterday!!

Eddie B

shooting101 wrote: »

What should you do now then? Have a duck from yesterday!!

Eat it! None of us has a problem eating the ****e we buy from the supermarkets and takeaways. Think we probably all ate horse as well at some stage, but just didn't know it. lol

Suppose at the end of the day, it's up to the individual, whether their gonna eat game or not. Saying that, i think its important to respect your quarry. If your not gonna eat it, then don't shoot it. Shoot some tin cans or something, till your confident enough to eat game again.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Eddie B wrote:

Suppose at the end of the day, it's up to the individual, whether their gonna eat game or not. Saying that, i think its important to respect your quarry. If your not gonna eat it, then don't shoot it. Shoot some tin cans or something, till your confident enough to eat game again.

Yeah I got a pigeon wasn't very happy to eat so gave it to the dog! Don't like to waste it as you say so I'll probably stop shooting pigeons for a while until I'm happy to eat it again!

Eddie B

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Yeah I got a pigeon wasn't very happy to eat so gave it to the dog! Don't like to waste it as you say so I'll probably stop shooting pigeons for a while until I'm happy to eat it again!

Don't want to go of topic here, but if you have Showbox, check out Food INC. You may either go vegan, or have your pidgeon. Lol

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Eddie B wrote:

Don't want to go of topic here, but if you have Showbox, check out Food INC. You may either go vegan, or have your pidgeon. Lol

Haha I'll go with steroids in the meat over meat with disease for the minute Thanks!

Eddie B

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Haha I'll go with steroids in the meat over meat with disease for the minute Thanks!

O right, so your guaranteed that the meat your eating is disease free, and free of ecoli? A that's grand then lol

What I'm getting at lad, is that the meat in the shops, and takeaways, is much more dangerous than wild meat. We all eat it, because it's convenient, and nicely packaged.

The human race has become somewhat sheepish, and easily influenced, which is very sad indeed.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Eddie B wrote:

The human race has become somewhat sheepish, and easily influenced, which is very sad indeed.

Eddie B wrote:

What I'm getting at lad, is that the meat in the shops, and takeaways, is much more dangerous than wild meat. We all eat it, because it's convenient, and nicely packaged.

Eddie B wrote:

O right, so your guaranteed that the meat your eating is disease free, and free of ecoli? A that's grand then lol

Yeah I know where you are coming from! I agree 100% with what you're saying!

shooting101

Can't beat teal lovely!!!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

Can't beat teal lovely!!!

Not much on them by the looks of them I'd say!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Not much on them by the looks of them I'd say!

Yea not much meat on em.. but in my opinion there better than mallard!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

Yea not much meat on em.. but in my opinion there better than mallard!

Yed want to be shooting them with 7s or something? Yed need a few to make a meal!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Yed want to be shooting them with 7s or something? Yed need a few to make a meal!

Was shooting with RC 6's was primarily going for mallards.. lovely eating need a few to make a proper meal!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Ah right many Mallard around?

I was using sipe number 6 on crows! Didn't drop any yet! Not sure if I'm missing them completely or there just isn't enough punch to bring them down!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Ah right many Mallard around?

I haven't seen many at all to be honest ( a good few female mallards) I'm shooting on small ponds going to be feeding it tomorrow should bring in more hopefully.. I've just seen a lot of teal in the ponds. I do see the mallard the odd time though just depends.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

I haven't seen many at all to be honest ( a good few female mallards) I'm shooting on small ponds going to be feeding it tomorrow should bring in more hopefully.. I've just seen a lot of teal in the ponds. I do see the mallard the odd time though just depends.

Ah right yeah! We have a pond haven't ever fed it but the mallard come onto it sometimes! Few on our river aswell as a few teal on it for a while! Can say the family would really appreciate me shooting them!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Ah right yeah! We have a pond haven't ever fed it but the mallard come onto it sometimes! Few on our river aswell as a few teal on it for a while! Can say the family would really appreciate me shooting them!

To be honest if you'd want to get some ducks in the pond feed it and try not to shoot it to much I feed mine with Rolled barely ( a bucket a week) scraps like potatoes etc does the trick!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

To be honest if you'd want to get some ducks in the pond feed it and try not to shoot it to much I feed mine with Rolled barely ( a bucket a week) scraps like potatoes etc does the trick!

A right thanks! Do ye just put a bit out every day? Or the full bucket out one day in the week? Thanks!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

A right thanks! Do ye just put a bit out every day? Or the full bucket out one day in the week? Thanks!

What I do is every week just once I feed a bucket with potatoes etc. Should get some decent duck in for the end of the season!
People may feed a bit every few days but I just feed it at once!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

What I do is every week just once I feed a bucket with potatoes etc. Should get some decent duck in for the end of the season! People may feed a bit every few days but I just feed it at once!

Ah ok thanks! Do ye just throw in on the water or have a float that you put it on?

shooting101

Well try and feed the pond later in the day as ducks come in at night, just get maybe two spots where you want to put feed and throw it just in a few inches of water so that crows can't get to them if you get me!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

Well try and feed the pond later in the day as ducks come in at night, just get maybe two spots where you want to put feed and throw it just in a few inches of water so that crows can't get to them if you get me!

Yeah I get ye I was just wondering because I've heard people putting it around the edge but they say it attracts rats! Thanks for the tips!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Yeah I get ye I was just wondering because I've heard people putting it around the edge but they say it attracts rats! Thanks for the tips!

Yea that's right them rats would come, good luck with it!

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

shooting101 wrote:

Yea that's right them rats would come, good luck with it!

Thanks!

shooting101

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant wrote: »

Thanks!

2nd case of bird flu confirmed a wild duck In Galway.. just wondering is there any signs of bird flu when you look at them etc?

sniperman

shooting101 wrote: »

2nd case of bird flu confirmed a wild duck In Galway.. just wondering is there any signs of bird flu when you look at them etc?

afaik they seen weak and unable to fly,id say by next season it will be widespread,

Eddie B

I feel it's inevitable that it'll spread to poultry and other wildlife, which is worrying.

sniperman

Eddie B wrote: »

I feel it's inevitable that it'll spread to poultry and other wildlife, which is worrying.

yes.its going to have a big impact on shooting id say,if by next season it has spread,i for one will not go out,like i said above, i would not like to eat infected birds,fully cooked or not.

Eddie B

sniperman wrote: »

yes.its going to have a big impact on shooting id say,if by next season it has spread,i for one will not go out,like i said above, i would not like to eat infected birds,fully cooked or not.

What about chickens turkey's, etc though. Can we be sure that what we buy at the supermarket, or eat at KFC isn't infected?
By next year there could be more of a chance of eating infected poultry, than wild game.

shooting101

Eddie B wrote: »

What about chickens turkey's, etc though. Can we be sure that what we buy at the supermarket, or eat at KFC isn't infected?
By next year there could be more of a chance of eating infected poultry, than wild game.

What would happen if you did consume a duck with the bird flu?

Eddie B

shooting101 wrote: »

What would happen if you did consume a duck with the bird flu?

Well i can only go by what I've read, that no human has contracted this particular strain of the virus.

This is something I've often thought about. Many times I've heard people say that they wouldn't eat a rabbit with the mixi. Well how many rabbits have we eaten, that were in the early stages of the disease, and not showing the typical symptoms?

Also, as I said before, many of us unknowingly consumed horse meat in the past. Probably ate meat from animals with virus's and parasites, but just weren't aware of it.

Just something to think about.

sniperman

Eddie B wrote: »

What about chickens turkey's, etc though. Can we be sure that what we buy at the supermarket, or eat at KFC isn't infected?
By next year there could be more of a chance of eating infected poultry, than wild game.

yep you are right,we cant be sure if or not we are eating infected fowl,hell we could be doing it right now, but the way i am is. for example if i shoot a mixi rabbit and a healthy one,i tend to eat the good one,i just dont fancy preparing and cooking anything id know to be sick.

Eddie B

sniperman wrote: »

but the way i am is. for example if i shoot a mixi rabbit and a healthy one,i tend to eat the good one,i just dont fancy preparing and cooking anything id know to be sick.

Yep, and I'm the same. Think we all are! Thing is, that "healthy" rabbit, could also have the mixi, just earlier stages. It's our mindset, to avoid eating what doesn't look healthy. It's a good approach to take. Helps us avoid dangerous food, and live longer. Thing is, unfortunately it's not a foolproof way of avoiding coming in contact with contaminated foods.

As I said earlier, more chance of getting ill from food in our restaurants and grocery store, than from wild foods. Yet, we are seldom cautious with consuming these foods.

Crow Pigeon and Pheasant

Eddie B wrote:

As I said earlier, more chance of getting ill from food in our restaurants and grocery store, than from wild foods. Yet, we are seldom cautious with consuming these foods.

Eddie B wrote:

Yep, and I'm the same. Think we all are! Thing is, that "healthy" rabbit, could also have the mixi, just earlier stages. It's our mindset, to avoid eating what doesn't look healthy. It's a good approach to take. Helps us avoid dangerous food, and live longer. Thing is, unfortunately it's not a foolproof way of avoiding coming in contact with contaminated foods.

Apparently if you put the meat in a pressure cooker you would kill all bacteria I think! Correct me if I'm wrong