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getting cat5/6 network setup - final step
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On that in my place my AV equipment in my living room is not beside my TV it's in the corner with an arc HDMI, cat6 and speaker cable to the centre speaker being the only cables linked to my TV location .
All the other kit ( bar Chromecast) is in the decorative cab from Ikea that matches the TV unit. This includes all the speaker cables all the. HDMI switching is at the amp.
I've had to move the location three times
I've all my AV equipment (sat box, AV, mac mini, Nvidia TV, Now TV, PS3, PS4, Xbox) all hidden away in the study/server room
All controlled by the Harmony Hub.
I've a single HDMI cable running from the AV to the TV in the living room. The 5.1 speakers also run from the AV to the living room and I've the satellite cable runs from the living room (it enters the house there unfortunately) running to the study. All these cables are hidden very nicely in some ducting.
It is a fantastic setup. The living room looks much nicer without the dozen blinking boxes, noise of fans and my AV gear is safely away from sticky fingers.
It is a great setup, but not perfect. I've a cat5e port behind the TV, but if it had been two cat5e ports or a single cat6 port, then I could have done HDMI over ethernet and I wouldn't have needed the long HDMI cable.
I'm also thinking of getting rid of the 5.1 setup as I rarely use it and instead move to a sound bar, would be neater and remove the need for the 5.1 audio cables too.
If the house had extra cat6 cables everywhere, then I could also switch the output of the HDMI from the living room to the bedroom when I wanted to watch TV or play games on the projector there.0 -
I've all my AV equipment (sat box, AV, mac mini, Nvidia TV, Now TV, PS3, PS4, Xbox) all hidden away in the study/server room
All controlled by the Harmony Hub.
I've a single HDMI cable running from the AV to the TV in the living room. The 5.1 speakers also run from the AV to the living room and I've the satellite cable runs from the living room (it enters the house there unfortunately) running to the study. All these cables are hidden very nicely in some ducting.
It is a fantastic setup. The living room looks much nicer without the dozen blinking boxes, noise of fans and my AV gear is safely away from sticky fingers.
It is a great setup, but not perfect. I've a cat5e port behind the TV, but if it had been two cat5e ports or a single cat6 port, then I could have done HDMI over ethernet and I wouldn't have needed the long HDMI cable.
I'm also thinking of getting rid of the 5.1 setup as I rarely use it and instead move to a sound bar, would be neater and remove the need for the 5.1 audio cables too.
If the house had extra cat6 cables everywhere, then I could also switch the output of the HDMI from the living room to the bedroom when I wanted to watch TV or play games on the projector there.
Is the ethernet to HDMI reliable?
I've an empty duct and a power point near the ceiling for installing a projector. It would be much easier to run a cat 6 cable through it than HDMI, but what would be needed on both ends? Is this possible to do without requiring an extra power point or adaptor on the projector side?0 -
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bittihuduga wrote: »how far is it from your study to TV? running one HDMI plus speaker cables (6 of them)?
how did you hide it?
i want to do the same but my store room has to go through kitchen, dining and then to living.
Actually 11 cables total, believe it or not!
- HDMI
- 5 speakers cables + one much thicker cable for the subwoofer
- 3 coax cables for satellite
- 1 audio cable which allows me to put one of the Harmony Hubs IR repeaters under the TV in the living room so that the harmony hub can control the TV too, while the Harmony Hub is actually in the study.
A total pain in the ass to squeeze all those into the trunking!
My setup is in a study, which backs onto the kitchen, the kitchen and living room are then shared. I simply drilled a whole in the wall from the study to the kitchen beneath the kitchen cabinets, run the cables along underneath the kitchen cabinets (attached to the underneath of the kitchen cabinets and in tubbing to avoid damp, wetness underneath the cabinets) and then it breaks out from the cabinets and run along about two meters of cable trunking to the TV.
The trunking just sits on top of the baseboard, but it mostly runs behind a table, so you would barely notice it unless you specifically went looking. While not perfect, it is still a million times neater looking then a dozen black, blinking noisy boxes under the TV in the living room, so a very fair trade off IMO.
The HDMI cable is 10.5 meter long and is this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LJQM3Y/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
It also comes in 15 meters length, if you need a longer run, then I'd recommend HDMI over ethernet as it is thinner and more flexible over long distances.
This is the trunking I use from D-Line, 50x25 version, white:
http://www.av4all.co.uk/cable-management-dline-50x25mm-c-1_125.html
The rounded nature of it looks nice IMO and fits well. However all those cables barely fit in it, where it goes around corners in particular isn't great with all those cables, but if you have a few less or use a more flexible ethernet cable they would be fine.
I think if I was going to do it again I would simplify things a bit. Instead of the 5.1 speakers in the living room and AV in the study, I would instead use a 6x2 HDMI Matrix in the study and just a soundbar under the TV (+ subwoofer).
Then I wouldn't have the 6 audio cables running to the living room, nor the complicated, slightly unsightly 5.1 speaker setup in the living room. Instead just one HDMI from the HDMI Matrix to the soundbar and use the soundbar to process the audio and use as a speaker. It would simplify things a bit. Though I'd still would need all the other cables for my setup, so it wasn't really worth investing in a soundbat and HDMI matrix, but might suit others better.
BTW while all of this might sound super complicated, it only took about half a day to set it all up and in the end wasn't particularly hard or expensive (maybe €100 in cables and ducting) and makes the living room look so much nicer and gained me serious cookie points from my better half 0 -
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Actually 11 cables total, believe it or not!
- HDMI
- 5 speakers cables + one much thicker cable for the subwoofer
- 3 coax cables for satellite
- 1 audio cable which allows me to put one of the Harmony Hubs IR repeaters under the TV in the living room so that the harmony hub can control the TV too, while the Harmony Hub is actually in the study.
A total pain in the ass to squeeze all those into the trunking!
My setup is in a study, which backs onto the kitchen, the kitchen and living room are then shared. I simply drilled a whole in the wall from the study to the kitchen beneath the kitchen cabinets, run the cables along underneath the kitchen cabinets (attached to the underneath of the kitchen cabinets and in tubbing to avoid damp, wetness underneath the cabinets) and then it breaks out from the cabinets and run along about two meters of cable trunking to the TV.
The trunking just sits on top of the baseboard, but it mostly runs behind a table, so you would barely notice it unless you specifically went looking. While not perfect, it is still a million times neater looking then a dozen black, blinking noisy boxes under the TV in the living room, so a very fair trade off IMO.
The HDMI cable is 10.5 meter long and is this one:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005LJQM3Y/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&th=1
It also comes in 15 meters length, if you need a longer run, then I'd recommend HDMI over ethernet as it is thinner and more flexible over long distances.
This is the trunking I use from D-Line, 50x25 version, white:
http://www.av4all.co.uk/cable-management-dline-50x25mm-c-1_125.html
The rounded nature of it looks nice IMO and fits well. However all those cables barely fit in it, where it goes around corners in particular isn't great with all those cables, but if you have a few less or use a more flexible ethernet cable they would be fine.
I think if I was going to do it again I would simplify things a bit. Instead of the 5.1 speakers in the living room and AV in the study, I would instead use a 6x2 HDMI Matrix in the study and just a soundbar under the TV (+ subwoofer).
Then I wouldn't have the 6 audio cables running to the living room, nor the complicated, slightly unsightly 5.1 speaker setup in the living room. Instead just one HDMI from the HDMI Matrix to the soundbar and use the soundbar to process the audio and use as a speaker. It would simplify things a bit. Though I'd still would need all the other cables for my setup, so it wasn't really worth investing in a soundbat and HDMI matrix, but might suit others better.
BTW while all of this might sound super complicated, it only took about half a day to set it all up and in the end wasn't particularly hard or expensive (maybe €100 in cables and ducting) and makes the living room look so much nicer and gained me serious cookie points from my better half
Would it not me 4 coax cables for sattelite to allow for one additional return feed for distribution to the rest of the house?0 -
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