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English car speeding

  • 27-12-2016 11:39PM
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    I'm very annoyed with myself!

    Was driving bang on the speed limit for an hour and then sped up slightly as the car behind me was driving right up the back of my car (not blaming her!). Suddenly saw a speed van. Looked at the speedo and was doing just shy of 70mph in a 100kmph zone.

    The kmph on that car is digital (the mph is on a clock) and had 100kmph equalling 63/64 mph. My question is... at that speed am I likely to be done for speeding? I was driving a UK reg car (and I have a UK licence). Can I get points on my licence or is it just a fine (or can the vans even track me down when it's not an Irish car)?

    From what I can see online I might get a fine and then points held on a dummy licence that'll become active if I change to an Irish licence in the future (I live in the UK at the moment so no immediate need to swap licences). I've looked through loads of threads but there's a lot of conflicting info and most of it isn't very recent.

    Can anyone shed any light please? I'm o ly concerned because of the price of insurance in the UK for me going up significantly every single year since I'm moved there anyway (no points, fines, convictions, claims etc to date) so having points would make it ridiculous!

    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭outinthefields


    100kph is 62.2mph so yes the van clocked you. You may get a postal fine sent to your English address but points cannot be added to your licence yet. I think the law changes next year to allow points be added to any European or British licence for offences committed within the state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,723 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭bladespin


    Would require much more than just a change in our law.

    OP, it's unlikely anything more will come of this.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,234 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Chances are you won't hear anything. They allow 9kmh in all zones so your good to 109kmh and speedos read conservatively so even though yours read over 115, the chances are you were actually only doing 107/108kmph. I wouldn't worry too much about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,509 ✭✭✭topmanamillion


    Chances are you won't hear anything. They allow 9kmh in all zones so your good to 109kmh and speedos read conservatively so even though yours read over 115, the chances are you were actually only doing 107/108kmph. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
    More Bullsh1t. I have a friend who is constantly made fun of for her slow driving and was done for doing 52 KM/H in a 50 zone. If you're over you're over. The days of winks and nudges and ah shur you're only X over are well gone.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    100kph is 62.2mph so yes the van clocked you. You may get a postal fine sent to your English address but points cannot be added to your licence yet. I think the law changes next year to allow points be added to any European or British licence for offences committed within the state.

    100kph on the clock is closer to 90kph in reality so if you are 10kmh over on the clock you are probably at the limit. Even over the limit they have to give some leeway also ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    A foreign car will not be followed up on. As Tony would say, feggedabowdit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,539 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    speedos read conservatively so even though yours read over 115, the chances are you were actually only doing 107/108kmph. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
    This is repeated often but many speedos are more accurate than you might think and will vary from car to car. Always check your own speedo against a sat nav or calibrated speedo before driving at 135 thinking you're only doing 120!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,682 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


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    This is not true.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭pa990


    More Bullsh1t. I have a friend who is constantly made fun of for her slow driving and was done for doing 52 KM/H in a 50 zone. If you're over you're over. The days of winks and nudges and ah shur you're only X over are well gone.

    A ticket for 2km/h over... I call bullshīt on this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭DanWall


    More Bullsh1t. I have a friend who is constantly made fun of for her slow driving and was done for doing 52 KM/H in a 50 zone. If you're over you're over. The days of winks and nudges and ah shur you're only X over are well gone.

    The equipment isn't accurate enough for that amount


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭vandriver


    100kph on the clock is closer to 90kph in reality so if you are 10kmh over on the clock you are probably at the limit. Even over the limit they have to give some leeway also ;)
    What exactly do you base this on?
    I know in my van,the speedometer was within 1 mph of the satnav all the way up the range to over 110 mph.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 848 ✭✭✭Falcon L


    My understanding is that there is no information sharing arrangement between Ireland and the UK regarding driving offences. I believe this to be true because if there was, I'd have a pile of UK speeding fines that I could use as a chair. :D

    There is talk of this changing though. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,377 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    If they're doing people for being 2kmph over the limit then we may all give up. Are you supposed to stare at your speedo or concentrate on the road?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,917 ✭✭✭GM228


    Falcon L wrote: »
    My understanding is that there is no information sharing arrangement between Ireland and the UK regarding driving offences. I believe this to be true because if there was, I'd have a pile of UK speeding fines that I could use as a chair. :D

    There is talk of this changing though. :o

    Information sharing has been in operation between the DVLA and Shannon since March 2010 (between the Republic and NI only initially) on a trial basis but has since been extended indefinately.

    Information sharing on any offence applies to NI, information sharing on disqualification applies to the UK.


  • Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My brother had my car for a week back in September. Told me after a few days I might get a letter in the post. He said he was doing just under 70mph on the speedo when he passed the go safe van on a 100kmph road.

    Have heard nothing since.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭pa990


    More Bullsh1t. I have a friend who is constantly made fun of for her slow driving and was done for doing 52 KM/H in a 50 zone. If you're over you're over. The days of winks and nudges and ah shur you're only X over are well gone.

    X = 8kmh

    9kmh = ticket

    Thus Y=9


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭pa990


    I'm waiting for day when I'm stupid enough to get caught by a GoSafe van.

    1: the range is rediculasly short
    2: the way they are currently set up means that almost every ticket can be successfully challenged. (Mikeecho has posted literature here that proves that the system is being used in contradiction to the manufactures guidelines, causing readings that can result in an unsafe conviction)

    Just use the search function people


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 499 ✭✭evlgmaojr27ypu


    An interesting article from the Irish times this morning - http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/speeding-drivers-escape-court-appearance-as-summons-not-served-35324541.html

    One would imagine that if they weren't summoned for a court appearance, they prob didn't get the fine too ?? Assuming they use the same source for getting your details.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭ShaunieVW


    I was done for doing 109 in a 100 zone by a cop with a speed gun. All because I was driving the OHs car which had L plates up and he had the sarg in the car apparently??? My luck really ran out that day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭steveshort


    Go safe vans are a joke.
    Their opperated by a private company, and like any business their objectives are to make money. This is not how are roads should be policed. The vans should be a deterrent and if they are successful then no one would get caught speeding, but this would not be profitable for a private company.
    If I was unlucky enough too be caught by one of these vans id simply send the fine too a different country , it would sicken me to give money to a private company who use road safety as an excuse to profiteer from the already screwed motorist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    steveshort wrote: »
    Go safe vans are a joke.
    Their opperated by a private company, and like any business their objectives are to make money. This is not how are roads should be policed. The vans should be a deterrent and if they are successful then no one would get caught speeding, but this would not be profitable for a private company.
    If I was unlucky enough too be caught by one of these vans id simply send the fine too a different country , it would sicken me to give money to a private company who use road safety as an excuse to profiteer from the already screwed motorist.

    They operate on a fixed payment, they don't get any extra money for catching more people. They are also only in place where accidents have occured, are signposted and have very very short detection ranges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭bladespin


    This is not true.

    Correct but you have to ask the question if it is worth all the extra effort for a minor offence.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,441 ✭✭✭bladespin


    steveshort wrote:
    it would sicken me to give money to a private company who use road safety as an excuse to profiteer from the already screwed motorist.

    You do understand that Gosafe don't actually receive the 'fines', they just process.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭steveshort


    They operate on a fixed payment, they don't get any extra money for catching more people. They are also only in place where accidents have occured, are signposted and have very very short detection ranges.
    I see these vans regularly in my locality and the places where they hide, these are not accident black spots, id doubt if any accidents aver happened at some locations. And as for the signs, I dont think they need to operate within these anymore.
    As their described on the radio "flash for cash"
    Notting too do with road safety.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭steveshort


    bladespin wrote: »
    You do understand that Gosafe don't actually receive the 'fines', they just process.

    Fair point
    But if they where successful in eliminating speeding then there would be no speeding to process and there for surely no revenue stream for the private company.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,521 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    steveshort wrote: »
    I see these vans regularly in my locality and the places where they hide, these are not accident black spots, id doubt if any accidents aver happened at some locations. And as for the signs, I dont think they need to operate within these anymore.
    As their described on the radio "flash for cash"
    Notting too do with road safety.

    Every single place they operate in was selected in conjunction with the RSA based on data from accidents. All the locations are freely available online and are signposted. "Flash for cash" is not accurate, maybe "fines for speeding" doesn't have the same ring though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭gutteruu


    This is not true.

    It is true. Go Safe tickets cannot issue fines to foreign registered vehicles. There was an article from Ennis court about 3 years ago where a go safe director stated it to a judge. (couldn't be arsed looking for link) As far as I remember they also can't issue tickets to cars which have another vehicle in the picture.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭steveshort


    Every single place they operate in was selected in conjunction with the RSA based on data from accidents. All the locations are freely available online and are signposted. "Flash for cash" is not accurate, maybe "fines for speeding" doesn't have the same ring though.
    That may be so but I know where I have seen them and they look more like good places to catch someone speeding rather then stop someone speeding.
    I also can think of places where accidents have happened and I have never seen these vans here.


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