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I think I done Major mistake with my career

  • 07-12-2016 10:55am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40


    Let me start at the start.

    I was working in high SAP role in a IT company for at lest a year before this i was doing IT help desk for nearly a year and I came from 4 years of studying IT in college with a 2.1 degree and a new manager came in and let go the team as he was not happy with us. But my scores where crazy for the team and i was told i was getting promoted by the SR manager to a export in a area and was going to be the good to guy for issues in said area. It hurts me badly that i was let go from the job as i loved it and loved the people i was worked with just the company was bad everything else was perfect. Lovely office, Great people, Great Systems to be working on, I loved the job but not the company as i was worked to the bone but i released after my knowledge of the product was nuts for someone who never worked in SAP before this as I meet up with people working in other Depts and I still give them hints how to fix things. As bad as it is i would go back there tomorrow if i could but sadly one of the main reasons they let me go in there words was my desliexa. And there is a legal case because of this. They found out i had it as i asked for more advance spell checker for my computer to email people with.

    Then i was not working for about 7 weeks and my girlfriend would not leave me alone about getting a job as i wonted to wait to i get something that i like and she would not stop about bills to me. We only have ESB and UPC to pay that's it as we own the house we are living in she got it in the will from her mum when she sadly passed away this year. And money has never been a issue as i have money for a rainy day.

    I got offered 3 jobs in the same week. Being honest i did not wont to do them but i said it will keep me going as only so much programing i can learn a day and gets me out of the house. Sadly i wish they did get me out of the house as i am working from home from all roles. I took the role from the largeist company of the 3.

    I am extramly sorry i took this job now as i was never told it was call center work and i am so over skilled for this job that i am going mad on the phones as just don't care about what I am doing as there is no rewords for the job as i used to dealing with people face to face in my last 2 roles and now i dont see anyone from one end of the day to the next and it hurts as i am going mad being in a office by myself all day with no one to talk to expect people screaming at me on the phones and i don't care if your product is working or not sadly i was used to dealing with better things and i need to be around people. If i was working in there office i might fell better as i would see people and be able to turn to john and ask him something or for a chat.

    I had to do daily exams for this role. I got 100% in all 10 exams i had to take as the stuff is so simple and i am board supporting the product. As there is sadly no challenge for me as there is noting to learn or get better at.

    It has also hit me about losing my job in the company that i was support SAP in and it hurts that i was so good at the job but my desliexa got me fired. I fell worthless in myself to get a better job. I hate the job i am doing now and are only doing it to shut up the girlfriend as i wont to walk away now.

    As to me job isn't about money i would work for min wage as long as i was happy but sadly i am not happy at all and its getting worse and worse as the days go on in this job. As anything i say gets no. They wont give me 2 days off in a row. They gave no reason why i was put on the late shift when I asked them ?.

    I just don't know what is wrong with me. I wont to work but i wont to do a job that i have to learn and will be a challenge to me as i didnt go to college for 4 years and study IT to end of up in call center as i know i am to good for a call center. I wont to be supporting or fixing a product that has me going into the back end yet again and thinking out of the box. As in this role i cant think out of the box in this call center i got eating alive for thinking out of the box once so far. And its only going to get worse.

    I just don't know what to do with myself as I am damaged from being fired and I am now in a role that I am stupid over skilled for.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,088 ✭✭✭OU812


    I understand that you feel unfulfilled and are very overqualified for the role you have now, as well as being grieved over the previous role, however, you have a job & it pays - you applied for it.

    I'm currently out of work for the second time this year - my own company folded & I got a temporary job which finished three weeks ago. I can't get a single reply to over a hundred applications in the last three weeks. A job that lasted would be good right now.

    Apply for other roles while keeping the one you have. The frustration will fade. You seem intelligent, but the anger you have over losing the SAP role is clouding your judgement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    I do understand how you fell yourself about needing a job.

    But myself I am doing a job i don't wont to do, I don't care about, I have no feelings for, I am afard that i am going to say something to someone on the phone like i just don't care about your issue.

    Its just the way i lost the role makes me mad and upset as i pushed myself so much to learn everything and how i had people working in the other side of the world for the same company asking me for help after themselves have been there for over 3 years. I know if they didn't find out about my deslexa i would still be in the same role and getting better at it.

    It just hurts in this role i just don't wont to do it. As i don't enjoy it and have no challenge in it. As the job is just reading things form to people and not learning how to do stuff yourself. AS my 4 years studying IT and working in IT help desk and SAP everything was about thinking out of the box to get issues fixed. As there was countless ways to get a issue fixed while here if i don't go by whats in the database i am wrong. I am just so used to thinking out of the box and being in the box is making me go mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭BrianBoru00


    You were fired for having dyslexia? I'd be seeking advice from a solicitor about this as I'd expect that its completely illegal.
    Do you have this in writing? Were you given warnings?
    If you were working for over 12 months then you have rights as an employee...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    If you were fired for having dyslexia, I'd talk to an employment rights specialist to see if that is valid.

    I'm not sure what type of SAP support role you had, but spelling & correct naming conventions would be important. However, that doesn't automatically mean you should be let go.

    Talk to NERA and/or an employment solicitor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Although your dyslexia might have caused an issue, the manager came in with a goal. You say your whole team was let go? So he was brought in to be the hatchet man. Did you get redundancy? I don't think you were sacked, as such. Although maybe I'm reading your post wrong.

    From what I can gather you applied for and were offered 3 positions? Which mean you are in demand. Keep applying. Just because you accepted this job doesn't mean you have to stay there until pension age! This is a blip on your career path. Most people will have them. Looking back at what you had and bring annoyed about it is serving no purpose. If you hate the job you are in use the love you and knowledge you had in your other job to find a better one.

    Your gf is right. Regardless of what bills you don't need to pay you are better off earning. It's too easy to fall into the trap of waiting for the perfect job. Gaps in your CV will be a bigger turn off to employers than a call centre job.

    Make sure you have someone reliable and pedantic who will proof read your CV and cover letter to make sure it is spot on. Who will pick up every tiny spelling mistake or missing comma or full stop. Feeling hard done by is ok, for a time. But the time comes when you have to move forward and leave what happened behind you. If you do have a case for unfair dismissal then follow it through. But can you really see yourself going back to work for that company again? Under that manager? Move on. There's something equally as good if not better out there for you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Yes i was they said in there own words it was because of my spellings in my emails that people did not understand me. I have been to a solicitor i have 3 legal grounds in my case i have on them. I was giving no warnings about anything i was called into the office at 10 to 5 and let go.

    Once they found out about my dyslexia i was given weekly reviews and the only one on the team who was getting them. They also had a meeting with me the manager and HR about how does dyslexia affect my job ?. And i was asked countless times by the manager was i OK with having dyslexia ?. I was there sadly just under a year.

    My solicitor has taking my case and the NERA have took the case and have severed the legal action on said company. But is this sad i still would go back doing this job with them ?. And i am still helping people i used to work with in other jobs in the company ?. The manager in question i know the team he has have over 100 tickets needed to be worked on. I wont to offer my help to get the issues fixed even do i am taking legal action on them.

    The kind of SAP role i was doing was fixing the back ends of the systems and making sure they where working and sending messages between each other on Red Hat Linux and then making sure the front end could understand a doc file changing into a SAP file out any errors or issues. with symbols and so on.

    We had targets off tickets needed to be worked in under 40 hours. From when i started to when i ended i got my time from 120 hours down to 36 hours and at the start i was working maybe 10 tickets a week and at the end i was working 50 tickets while everyone else was doing maybe 15 tickets. My feedback was 97% positive as well from company's. I was told to never mind my scores when they where letting me go.

    IT just hurts and i would go back there tomorrow to do that job again as i loved it that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Check out IT firms like Version 1 and others who hire for SAP support roles


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    dudara wrote: »
    Check out IT firms like Version 1 and others who hire for SAP support roles

    I Keep getting told i don't have exp for the roles in question.

    I also have another 6 certs on top of my degree i really don't know what i have to do to get a job in IT :(.

    I just wont to work i will even do it for min wage as long as i am happy in the role and doing something that I am happy in and that i can learn and grow in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    sounds like Amazon to me...

    theres a difference between being fired for being dyslexic and fired for not proof reading your emails.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    sounds like Amazon to me...

    theres a difference between being fired for being dyslexic and fired for not proof reading your emails.

    Not Amazon but another huge IT company that no one knows what they do or the name of them ;).

    Well i asked for grammarly the pro version to help with my job. Countless times after i told them i was dyslexic. They refused to give it to me.

    I was proof reading my emails but i have a forum of dyslexia that i cant see the different between A O I E U as i cant sound out words or anything like that :( i hate been born with it and there is not a day in my life i wish i did not have it. I just would love to be to be able to spell right. And understand where my mistakes are. As i have a spelling age of 6 year old. I wish i could spell like a normal person. As i got called stupid by teachers in school and that i will never make it to college or do anything in my life. I got my 2.1 LV8 in info systems, I got my certs in Linux, Sap, Java you name it.

    I just wont to work in IT again somewhere that i can push myself to the limit to do my job. As i said i did not go to college for 4 years and push myself to get my degree to end up in a call center it hurts so bad deep down.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,359 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP, you need to just keep on applying for better It jobs. You will get one sooner or later. Don't only focus on SAP, because most companies will only want SAP staff who are completely certified.

    If you hate the call centre jobs that much, go to your doctor and tell him how bad working from home without colleagues is making you feel. He will probably give you a letter for welfare saying you have to quit for health reasons. (I couldn't stick a job like that either.)

    Re being fired for your disability: be careful about that. Employers only have to make reasonable accommodation, not any possible accommodation. Getting grammarly pro would have been reasonable. But maybe the problem wasn't just spelling- based on your posts here, I would not hire you for a job that involved writing emails to customers. It's likely that the company will get in trouble for using the wrong process, but their underlying decision may not have been wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭lau1247


    Not sure if this will help, apply for other jobs in the same career area? Oracle being one example I can think of, one company is not the end all and be all.

    West Dublin, ☀️ 7.83kWp ⚡5.66 kWp South West, ⚡2.18 kWp North East



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    can you go back to the old company you were in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Sadly i wish i could i would jump trow fences and hop around like crazy if i got to do the old job in the old company. There looking for someone to replace me. But i have a legal case 3 of them on them over the way i was got rid of. As i have so much proof and thinking in writing over issues that where happening. With the reasonable accommodation the emails i was sending where all templates that where giving to us. And i only had to fill in like this was done was one say $$$ was changed to a 4 in system and so on was my emails. Then others where would have i file that did not fail in the system ?. Or can you CC in your client that the file is failing into as they have a different setup.

    Thats what i am doing is applying for more and more IT jobs. I updated the CV but the issue is i am in this company less then 2 months its going to look bad in the long run.

    I spoke to my manager there as i had a SR person hang up on me and give out to me there for thinking outside of the box as in there words i am not alaod to think outside of the box i am only alaod go fix things that is said in black and white and that is the major reason why i am going nuts as i wonted to help a person and this made me need to change a few things on there system and i cant do that for the person and thats whats driving me nuts. I asked could i move into another DEPT that makes me deal with higher lv issues and its not about money said as i need something that i need to learn and get better at. He said i know your knowledge of issues is at 10 steps above of whats in the team as you where telling people how to config networks how to make there wifi more stable after the UPC crash last night. Then you explaned to them what is a VPN and how they work and how to fix issues in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Thats what i am doing is applying for more and more IT jobs. I updated the CV but the issue is i am in this company less then 2 months its going to look bad in the long run.
    No, not really. And especially not in IT.

    "Why are you leaving after 2 months?"

    "I took the job just to tide me over while I searched for something more senior".

    "What happened in the place before that"

    "The team was wound up and we were all made redundant".

    Done.

    The people reading your CV and interviewing you are just normal people. They understand that you need to work to get money in and sometimes/often you don't have the luxury of jumping between jobs that you like.

    In terms of the dyslexia, in case you don't have an official diagnosis, then go get one. There are also specialists who can assist you in reducing the impact of your dyslexia, finding techniques to improve spelling, etc.

    You will continue to encounter some level of discrimination because of your dyslexia, a lot of which you cannot take legal action about. So it would be worth your while to do what you can do minimise its impact on a daily basis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭rowanh


    Don't stress over it, its a terrible time of year to look for work, just stick with it till the end of January and then look for a job.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Op you need to get your story straight here

    Youve said that all of your team were let go in one sentence then that you were let go due to your dyslexia after being put on a pip in another.

    Which was it?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Hi OP, look I know it's hard but we've all had to work in jobs we hate to pay the bills. Even though you may not have many bills, they still have to be paid and food has to be bought. As other posters have said it also looks better on your CV to be doing something than nothing.

    Try not to get so frustrated in your current job, simply do what your supposed to do, finish up in the evening and enjoy your time off.

    I've had plenty of jobs I didn't like, sometimes it's a case of sucking it up until you find something better.

    With regards your old job there is probably little than can be done as you weren't there over a year so continue on the case if you want but don't put your hopes on it. Put your focus on finding something you will enjoy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Stheno wrote: »
    Op you need to get your story straight here

    Youve said that all of your team were let go in one sentence then that you were let go due to your dyslexia after being put on a pip in another.

    Which was it?

    Thats what i was told by the manager and then i question it when i said can i not move to another team as your still hiring 30 people and well they told it was due to my emails not be spelt properly.
    pilly wrote: »
    Hi OP, look I know it's hard but we've all had to work in jobs we hate to pay the bills. Even though you may not have many bills, they still have to be paid and food has to be bought. As other posters have said it also looks better on your CV to be doing something than nothing.

    Try not to get so frustrated in your current job, simply do what your supposed to do, finish up in the evening and enjoy your time off.

    I've had plenty of jobs I didn't like, sometimes it's a case of sucking it up until you find something better.

    With regards your old job there is probably little than can be done as you weren't there over a year so continue on the case if you want but don't put your hopes on it. Put your focus on finding something you will enjoy.


    I know it looks better but i hate what i am doing as i had another fight with the Tair 2 people just there over something small everyone is a fight when i am trying to be nice to the person on the phone and give some kind of lean way they refuse. With if its not in Black and white we cant do anything. Facepam. They you get a screaming person on the phone for 30 mins haha.

    With my dyslexia I have official diagnosis and have maybe i think in total 4 of them ?. Since i was 8 years old i have had them done every few years. My last one was over 6 years ago just before i done my leaving cert. The thing i need is the software i said before and it can fix spellings and regrammer what i am saying to a better way as i done my college work that way in my last year and my marks went crazy high thanks to it.

    The problem is when i am done in the evening its just me moving into another room in the house or turning around and playing video games to the girlfriend is home from work. It just is not a nice circle to be in. As when i was in the office i had the bus in the morning chat with the lads, Bus home in the evening chat with the lads i don't have that now and its making me fell like ****.

    As i did say about speaking with my manager he told me to apply to another Dept and hope for the best.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Thats what i was told by the manager and then i question it when i said can i not move to another team as your still hiring 30 people and well they told it was due to my emails not be spelt properly.




    I know it looks better but i hate what i am doing as i had another fight with the Tair 2 people just there over something small everyone is a fight when i am trying to be nice to the person on the phone and give some kind of lean way they refuse. With if its not in Black and white we cant do anything. Facepam. They you get a screaming person on the phone for 30 mins haha.

    With my dyslexia I have official diagnosis and have maybe i think in total 4 of them ?. Since i was 8 years old i have had them done every few years. My last one was over 6 years ago just before i done my leaving cert. The thing i need is the software i said before and it can fix spellings and regrammer what i am saying to a better way as i done my college work that way in my last year and my marks went crazy high thanks to it.

    The problem is when i am done in the evening its just me moving into another room in the house or turning around and playing video games to the girlfriend is home from work. It just is not a nice circle to be in. As when i was in the office i had the bus in the morning chat with the lads, Bus home in the evening chat with the lads i don't have that now and its making me fell like ****.

    As i did say about speaking with my manager he told me to apply to another Dept and hope for the best.

    Okay, there's a lot more you can do in the evenings than turn around and play computer games. Go for a walk, meet up with friends, go to the cinema. You can fall into a rut of hating your life without actually seeing the good in it. Life is not all about your job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Cant meet up with firends as my hours and days off do not match up with theres and they will be busy. Sadly. Cant go Cinema as again my hours dont let me go. This is all i can do in the eve other then going for a run in the gym.

    In better news i have got permission from my manager to apply for other roles inside the company that are more suited to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    So let me get this straight


    you are an IT professional with dyslexia, yet don't use spellcheck for your emails????sounds fishy to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    daheff wrote: »
    So let me get this straight


    you are an IT professional with dyslexia, yet don't use spellcheck for your emails????sounds fishy to me

    Never said i don't spell check I do but my mind does cant work out if right out wrong thats what i said here.

    I said i cant make out A I O U E with even a spell check as i cant sound out words and find it hard to know the right grimmer that's why i asked for the program in question on my PC to regrammer words for me so they will be better.

    I would like you to live with dyslexia for a day to see what its like to live with it. I cant work out sounds in words they all the same. I cant work out A I O U E from each other as it drives me crazy that i dont know the diff between them.

    Just to let you know when you cant spell you cant work out when you spelt things wrong even with your standard words i wish it was easyer to do it. Thats why i swear on software that helps with Deselxa.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Cant meet up with firends as my hours and days off do not match up with theres and they will be busy. Sadly. Cant go Cinema as again my hours dont let me go. This is all i can do in the eve other then going for a run in the gym.

    In better news i have got permission from my manager to apply for other roles inside the company that are more suited to me.

    Okay, I've no more constructive advice for you. Anyone can go to the cinema, it's open day and night. Touch of feeling sorry for yourself has set in I'm afraid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭daheff


    Never said i don't spell check I do but my mind does cant work out if right out wrong thats what i said here.

    I said i cant make out A I O U E with even a spell check as i cant sound out words and find it hard to know the right grimmer that's why i asked for the program in question on my PC to regrammer words for me so they will be better.

    I would like you to live with dyslexia for a day to see what its like to live with it. I cant work out sounds in words they all the same. I cant work out A I O U E from each other as it drives me crazy that i dont know the diff between them.

    Just to let you know when you cant spell you cant work out when you spelt things wrong even with your standard words i wish it was easyer to do it. Thats why i swear on software that helps with Deselxa.

    Maybe you are genuine...I don't know. I do know however that spellcheck is pretty good at spelling words correctly (even americanised versions) and would be surprised if you couldn't get by on that. You can even personalise it to autocorrect common mistakes you make (admittedly you would probably need somebody elses eyes to set up the autocorrect initially).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I don't have dyslexia or I wasn't left go from any job, not yet anyway but the rest of your original post emanates with the situation I find myself in.

    Did very well in an IT degree, A call center-ish job that I hate and is doing nothing for me career wise and a girlfriend who won't get off my back about wanting to get out of the situation I find myself in, because she feels a person would be mad to leave a job in this country.

    It's not a nice place to be in while your not necessarily depressed the stress of it all is probably mounting to boiling point.

    My advice, try to rebuild some confidence in yourself and look for a new job, also start trying to save some cash if it comes to boiling point and you just have to leave you'll have a bit of cash to keep you going. As for the girlfriend sit down with her and try to explain what you need and why you need it and try to make a compromise, if a compromise can't be reached dump her and move on, start fresh.

    If you feel you deserve better work toward it and make it a reality, I personally want to work in software development but somehow fell into a support role after graduating and 2-3 amount of years in support doesn't count for a whole lot when you don't want to do a development job.

    While I haven't put my own advice into practice yet I am saving up cash now just in case, If your miserable no work/girlfriend is worth it and the problem isn't going to magically fix itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    OP I feel for you, I really do. You're still quite young, have you considered applying for graduate roles? Lots of big companies can't get enough SAP people in house, and those that can are constantly poaching them from each other.

    From a programming perspective, I think it's possible that your dyslexia is an issue. I don't know anything about the software that you're talking about but it would need to do much more than just check the grammar and spelling in your emails. Can it check that you're getting naming conventions right etc? That can be the make or break of a system. I'm not super familiar with SAP backend but usually with those type of systems a misplaced comma, inconsistent capitalization and typos can create huge issues. Is their worry maybe that you want to install this checking software on critical servers? This may be against their policies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    pilly wrote: »
    Okay, I've no more constructive advice for you. Anyone can go to the cinema, it's open day and night. Touch of feeling sorry for yourself has set in I'm afraid.

    Well a 11.30 to 8.30 shift says otherwise.
    daheff wrote: »
    Maybe you are genuine...I don't know. I do know however that spellcheck is pretty good at spelling words correctly (even americanised versions) and would be surprised if you couldn't get by on that. You can even personalise it to autocorrect common mistakes you make (admittedly you would probably need somebody elses eyes to set up the autocorrect initially).

    Well it can be problem for me even to know the right meaning of the proper spelling. I have gotting so much perv extra classes to make it better over the years and i am telling you it used to be a lot more my spelling if that gives you a idea.

    I used to show other people on my team at the start the templates that i made up and see what they think and we changed them around as a team and we all used them. But where based off mine

    OP I feel for you, I really do. You're still quite young, have you considered applying for graduate roles? Lots of big companies can't get enough SAP people in house, and those that can are constantly poaching them from each other.

    From a programming perspective, I think it's possible that your dyslexia is an issue. I don't know anything about the software that you're talking about but it would need to do much more than just check the grammar and spelling in your emails. Can it check that you're getting naming conventions right etc? That can be the make or break of a system. I'm not super familiar with SAP backend but usually with those type of programs a misplaced comma, inconsistent capitalization and typos can create huge issues. Is their worry maybe that you want to install this checking software on critical servers? This may be against their policies.

    Problem is 2 years out of college is to late for grad roles and the time i was let go from my last role working in SAP systems i wonted to go back to college but it was to late to go back and do my masters even if i offered the 7K up front for it. 3 weeks earlier i would have been back in college doing my masters.

    I was the one who was fixing these misplaced commas haha that people had put in the set ups. Like as i said there was no issues with my work and my feedback from Clints i had a 97% rating and all my scores where twice as good as everyone else. I was able to see issues from lines of SAP and EDI codes.

    I didn't wont them on the servers as and had made up guides for the team to do the job EG with all the CMD that where needed on the Linux server. And strep by step how to do everything.

    Thats the craziness i cant work out why i let go from the role as the feedback was nuts before they found out i had delsexa. I was told and had in writing i was getting promoted in the next time the job comes up. I am still so confused about everything.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Well a 11.30 to 8.30 shift says otherwise.



    Well it can be problem for me even to know the right meaning of the proper spelling. I have gotting so much perv extra classes to make it better over the years and i am telling you it used to be a lot more my spelling if that gives you a idea.

    I used to show other people on my team at the start the templates that i made up and see what they think and we changed them around as a team and we all used them. But where based off mine




    Problem is 2 years out of college is to late for grad roles and the time i was let go from my last role working in SAP systems i wonted to go back to college but it was to late to go back and do my masters even if i offered the 7K up front for it. 3 weeks earlier i would have been back in college doing my masters.

    I was the one who was fixing these misplaced commas haha that people had put in the set ups. Like as i said there was no issues with my work and my feedback from Clints i had a 97% rating and all my scores where twice as good as everyone else. I was able to see issues from lines of SAP and EDI codes.

    I didn't wont them on the servers as and had made up guides for the team to do the job EG with all the CMD that where needed on the Linux server. And strep by step how to do everything.

    Thats the craziness i cant work out why i let go from the role as the feedback was nuts before they found out i had delsexa. I was told and had in writing i was getting promoted in the next time the job comes up. I am still so confused about everything.


    Cinemas are still open after 830 in the evening. Not going to argue the point any further. You actually don't want constructive criticism. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21 Crazycatlady39


    Just also bear in mind that it's a bad time of year to be jobsearching. I've found in the past that coming up to Christmas is not a good time. No-one wants to move due to financial costs and other reasons associated with the holidays. Keep up with the searching, you will find work suited to your skills.

    One of the other posters mentioned that this is a blip, and they're absolutely right.

    Register with some agencies also just to make sure that you get help with your dyslexia when applying for roles, and that it isn't overshadowing potential applications.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Here is the long and short of it, There is a vast amount of tech support roles out there. You are going to need assistance writing your CV and compiling an appropriate job list for you


    Go to the likes of CPL or Sigma Recruitment who specialise in this area and get some assistance, this is their bread and butter.

    Finally dont make more excuses stop pining for the past. Look forward move on move up and improve.

    This problem is short lived and can be fixed with the right help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    I disagree that you're too late for a graduate role. Try the likes of Glanbia or Johnson & Johnson or Kerry group. They usually start hiring now for May or June. I knew 2 30 year olds on those programs, 1 was almost 4 years out of uni and the other had just graduated with a cert having made a move from a completely different career.

    I think the point about feeling sorry for yourself a little is accurate. Nothing will change unless you change it, and a chance of attitude would be a good start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    listermint wrote: »
    Here is the long and short of it, There is a vast amount of tech support roles out there. You are going to need assistance writing your CV and compiling an appropriate job list for you


    Go to the likes of CPL or Sigma Recruitment who specialise in this area and get some assistance, this is their bread and butter.

    Finally dont make more excuses stop pining for the past. Look forward move on move up and improve.

    This problem is short lived and can be fixed with the right help.

    CV is perfect and is made by CV company never had a issue with getting work for it and have not been told from the likes of CPL to change things.

    I know not to look to the past i am looking to future and have been applying for jobs.
    I disagree that you're too late for a graduate role. Try the likes of Glanbia or Johnson & Johnson or Kerry group. They usually start hiring now for May or June. I knew 2 30 year olds on those programs, 1 was almost 4 years out of uni and the other had just graduated with a cert having made a move from a completely different career.

    I think the point about feeling sorry for yourself a little is accurate. Nothing will change unless you change it, and a chance of attitude would be a good start.

    Going to have a look now and see what i can apply to.

    ITs hard to change it once you been fired for been born with something you wish you dont have every single day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,841 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    Heres an idea.... have you tried applying to work directly for SAP? They're not the most vocal employer out there but they've actually a huge workforce between Dublin and Galway (approaching 2000 people I believe) and have recently taken on more office space in Citywest. Any company that size is almost guaranteed to be hiring on a constant or near constant basis.

    They have a program where they hire people who are on the autistic spectrum, so I doubt they'd not be able to look past dyslexia if a person has potential. Often times its the really big companies who have the best diversity policies and can look past a person having a deficit in one area if they're otherwise a talented individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    CV is perfect and is made by CV company never had a issue with getting work for it and have not been told from the likes of CPL to change things.

    I know not to look to the past i am looking to future and have been applying for jobs.



    Going to have a look now and see what i can apply to.

    ITs hard to change it once you been fired for been born with something you wish you dont have every single day.

    Yes, but here's a simple mental change, stop saying you were fired! Your role was made redundant, yes despite your good work, and the company chose to not allow you to transfer internally to a new team. (At least that's what I think happened.) From what you've said, they didn't let anyone else transfer either!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Heres an idea.... have you tried applying to work directly for SAP? They're not the most vocal employer out there but they've actually a huge workforce between Dublin and Galway (approaching 2000 people I believe) and have recently taken on more office space in Citywest. Any company that size is almost guaranteed to be hiring on a constant or near constant basis.

    They have a program where they hire people who are on the autistic spectrum, so I doubt they'd not be able to look past dyslexia if a person has potential. Often times its the really big companies who have the best diversity policies and can look past a person having a deficit in one area if they're otherwise a talented individual.

    I live and own a house at the other end of the country and have a dog and a girlfriend cant just tell them to move like that .....

    I have said we should move to london countless times and she wont. This is the only place i would move to.

    But worth applying anyway.
    Yes, but here's a simple mental change, stop saying you were fired! Your role was made redundant, yes despite your good work, and the company chose to not allow you to transfer internally to a new team. (At least that's what I think happened.) From what you've said, they didn't let anyone else transfer either!

    Everyone else expect me was kept on ..... Yah i wasint fired ..... They said i was fired because of my deslexa. I took me near 3 months to get a P45 from them and i am owed near 4k from them with OVer time and hoildays and thats part of my legal case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, in the nicest possible way, i wonder are you on the autistic spectrum?

    I have 2 siblings with Aspergers and they find change hard. They also loop a lot. You sound to me as if you are looping. Do you have a parent or sibling who understands you and could problem solve with you and break the looping?

    Also, i'm an editor. Your writing skills are the equivalent of someone whose second language is English. You need to get this problem sorted. Again maybe a friend or family member can help you sort this.

    I wish you all the best,
    T.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,046 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    i wont to use my 4 years of study to the fullest i can otherwise i would have wasted 4 years of my life studying.

    Why do you think it would be wasted study? You still have the qualification. You still have the results on your CV to show that you are capable of sticking with and completing a 4 year course with very high results. You do need to change your attitude. Nobody owes you a job! Just because you have a good degree doesn't mean you are entitled to your dream job. Do you know how many other people in the country graduated with excellent degrees in the last few years? Who also are in jobs they'd prefer not to be. These people are in jobs that are a stop gap. A filler to pay the bills and keep their CV current. You are newly graduated. It can take years to progress to your ideal position.

    You do seem to have a pitying attitude and it is difficult to make out your posts, and not because of spelling or grammar. But in your first post you say
    a new manager came in and let go the team as he was not happy with us.

    Then you say you were fired for having dyslexia. Then you say you were the only one let go.

    You finish work at 8:30. That's only the start of the evening. If anyone is going out for a bite to eat, a few quiet drinks, the cinema, they are going out around that time. Cinemas have films starting after 9pm all the time. Restaurants are open until 10:30-11 mostly.

    I doubt all your friends are at home in bed before 9pm.

    This is a bump in the road. You are what, 22, 23 years old? You have roughly 45 years of working life ahead of you. That is plenty of time to find your dream job, and progress to where you'd like to be. Very very VERY few people walk out of college into full time permanent dream positions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Why do you think it would be wasted study? You still have the qualification. You still have the results on your CV to show that you are capable of sticking with and completing a 4 year course with very high results. You do need to change your attitude. Nobody owes you a job! Just because you have a good degree doesn't mean you are entitled to your dream job. Do you know how many other people in the country graduated with excellent degrees in the last few years? Who also are in jobs they'd prefer not to be. These people are in jobs that are a stop gap. A filler to pay the bills and keep their CV current. You are newly graduated. It can take years to progress to your ideal position.

    You do seem to have a pitying attitude and it is difficult to make out your posts, and not because of spelling or grammar. But in your first post you say



    Then you say you were fired for having dyslexia. Then you say you were the only one let go.

    You finish work at 8:30. That's only the start of the evening. If anyone is going out for a bite to eat, a few quiet drinks, the cinema, they are going out around that time. Cinemas have films starting after 9pm all the time. Restaurants are open until 10:30-11 mostly.

    I doubt all your friends are at home in bed before 9pm.

    This is a bump in the road. You are what, 22, 23 years old? You have roughly 45 years of working life ahead of you. That is plenty of time to find your dream job, and progress to where you'd like to be. Very very VERY few people walk out of college into full time permanent dream positions.


    I know no one owes me a job i am just trying the hardiest to get my dream job as i know rome was-int built in a day. At this stage i would not consider myself a new grad anymore i am out of college nearly 2 years. I know it can take years to work up the ladder but i rather be on a ladder that i know i can make something of myself then work in a call center for my life. I love dealing with people as i will chat away to you none stop. I done help desk and i loved talking to people and fixing things while i talked them i dont have anyone to turn to now for a chat.

    Its a legal case i wont get into it anymore as stuff was said in that meeting by HR and Management towards me and i cant let more of it out.

    I used to work them hours but i was in a office with people i didnt mind them then and we used to allways do stuff after now i dont have that and i have no one to go for drinks with from work.

    28 ha. I know that it takes years to get what i wont i know what i wont but dont know how to start working on getting it that is the issue.


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,046 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    i know i can make something of myself then work in a call center for my life.

    But you're not going to work in a call centre for your life. You're working there temporarily until you find something else you'd prefer. You're already looking at a different role in the company so the likelihood of you working in a call centre for the next 40 years are fairly slim.

    I get that you're angry. But a lot of your anger is unnecessary. Go out in the evenings. Meet people. Use your mornings to search for jobs. Meet recruitment agencies etc. You can be angry and let it consume you, or you can work with the hand you were given and use it to make things better for yourself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,359 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    OP, have you ever heard of the National Learning Network?

    They're a very specialist agency which helps people who have difficulty with getting work due to disability or injury. They work with all sorts of other people, aiming for all sorts of jobs.

    I have a feeling that their kind of specialist skills might be helpful in getting past the barriers you have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    To be honest I think loosing the SAP job was a blessing. SAP is a huge company but the actual job market in Ireland is non existent outside of SAP. I personally know several people who left there in recent years whom focused on the SAP technical side and had to start at the bottom again and several whom returned to SAP after some years due to lack of opportunities to progress up in the other companies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    But you're not going to work in a call centre for your life. You're working there temporarily until you find something else you'd prefer. You're already looking at a different role in the company so the likelihood of you working in a call centre for the next 40 years are fairly slim.

    I get that you're angry. But a lot of your anger is unnecessary. Go out in the evenings. Meet people. Use your mornings to search for jobs. Meet recruitment agencies etc. You can be angry and let it consume you, or you can work with the hand you were given and use it to make things better for yourself.

    I know that myself and i am hoping that it can be fixed as in the morning i am going to offer myself to work in another dept for free to get exp in something that i wont to do. As that's what i have been thinking with my girlfriend.

    I do know what i need to relax a lot more.
    OP, have you ever heard of the National Learning Network?

    They're a very specialist agency which helps people who have difficulty with getting work due to disability or injury. They work with all sorts of other people, aiming for all sorts of jobs.

    I have a feeling that their kind of specialist skills might be helpful in getting past the barriers you have.

    No i have not do they work with people with deslexa ?. As i will get in touch with them.

    Thanks for the advice :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    Op I don't know where your based but the last showing in the cork cinemas tend to be around half nine ten o clock.

    Also maybe have a chat with your mates, tell them your struggling and would like to see them more I'm sure they would make the effort , same for family....

    As for the dxylexia it sucks but there are ways to manage it, speak to your specialist about extra support.

    I don't have dyslexia but I do have a chronic illness sometimes the harsh truth is you have to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and keep on trucking.

    You can of course apply for grad jobs and keep applying for other roles, can you go back to your old job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭newacc2015


    OP one option is keep applying for jobs and if anyone asks about the two month gap say you were backpacking. I know its not ideal to lie, but you basically got lied about what the role you would be in now.

    I cant imagine you having an issue getting a job having SAP in Dublin. But it doesnt sound like you live there

    Have you got a good up to date Linkedin. If you are as good as you say you are, you might get head hunted


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I know no one owes me a job i am just trying the hardiest to get my dream job as i know rome was-int built in a day. At this stage i would not consider myself a new grad anymore i am out of college nearly 2 years. I know it can take years to work up the ladder but i rather be on a ladder that i know i can make something of myself then work in a call center for my life. I love dealing with people as i will chat away to you none stop. I done help desk and i loved talking to people and fixing things while i talked them i dont have anyone to turn to now for a chat.

    Its a legal case i wont get into it anymore as stuff was said in that meeting by HR and Management towards me and i cant let more of it out.

    I used to work them hours but i was in a office with people i didnt mind them then and we used to allways do stuff after now i dont have that and i have no one to go for drinks with from work.

    28 ha. I know that it takes years to get what i wont i know what i wont but dont know how to start working on getting it that is the issue.

    I started out in a call centre and 18 years later refer to it as a great education


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    Op I don't know where your based but the last showing in the cork cinemas tend to be around half nine ten o clock.

    Also maybe have a chat with your mates, tell them your struggling and would like to see them more I'm sure they would make the effort , same for family....

    As for the dxylexia it sucks but there are ways to manage it, speak to your specialist about extra support.

    I don't have dyslexia but I do have a chronic illness sometimes the harsh truth is you have to pull yourself up by the bootstraps and keep on trucking.

    You can of course apply for grad jobs and keep applying for other roles, can you go back to your old job?

    Thats what i had to do with my desleixa is my post before i was put down for years by teachers over it and was told a good few times i am stupid and i dont have the brains for college. I ended up with a B3 in higher LV English thanks to a Tape Recorder in the leaving cert.
    newacc2015 wrote: »
    OP one option is keep applying for jobs and if anyone asks about the two month gap say you were backpacking. I know its not ideal to lie, but you basically got lied about what the role you would be in now.

    I cant imagine you having an issue getting a job having SAP in Dublin. But it doesnt sound like you live there

    Have you got a good up to date Linkedin. If you are as good as you say you are, you might get head hunted

    I was asked by 2 or 3 being in req to put me foreword for roles in SAP in Dublin and being honest i am thinking of loads of options at this moment in time and trying to pick the right one.

    I have a up to date Linkedin and its basically my CV in a digital copy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    OP, i have to say your not really addressing my post, you quoted it but i was talking about the cinema and your friends and going back to  your old job and you talked about your teachers being a bit **** and putting you down,

    so again,

    can you talk to your friends? tell them your struggling? talk to your family ask them to make time for you,

    can you go back to your old job?  its unclear if you were made redundant, fired, or resigned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 Theproblemlad


    OP, i have to say your not really addressing my post, you quoted it but i was talking about the cinema and your friends and going back to your old job and you talked about your teachers being a bit **** and putting you down,

    so again,

    can you talk to your friends? tell them your struggling? talk to your family ask them to make time for you,

    can you go back to your old job? its unclear if you were made redundant, fired, or resigned?

    Friends i do talk to about it never said I did not talk to my friends.

    Cant go back as I was fired from the job sadly and and as i said if they said i could go back tomorrow i would thats how much i loved the job.

    But in other news i spoke to my manager and said there looking into me moving roles as i offered to do it for free to get exp. They will be in touch next week about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,359 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble



    can you go back to your old job?  its unclear if you were made redundant, fired, or resigned?

    The OP has told us they are taking legal action against the old company . There is no way in hell that the old company would rehire in that situation.


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