We are the only nation in Europe which bans abortion.

Johnboner

Who doesn't like living in the middle ages.

smk321

Silence you serf.

mansize

malta

darkpagandeath

Lads in Pointy hats something something babies heads flying around purgatory ?

CaptainR

I'd love to live in the middle ages, sword battles and fair maidans everywhere. I'd say the diseases aren't great but still!

Ulysses Gaze

CaptainR wrote: »

I'd love to live in the middle ages, sword battles and fair maidans everywhere. I'd say the diseases aren't great but still!

Ah the plague is like the Measles: Best to get it out of the way.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

You seem to have a real downer on Ireland, judging by your 20ish posts so far.

Relax.

suicide_circus

Ah yeah, pure middle ages man.

Edups2.0

Down with this sort of thing.

Ulysses Gaze

Johnboner wrote: »

Who doesn't like living in the middle ages.

That would be an Ecumenical matter.

KingBrian2

I don't know it just doesn't come up that much over here.:D

Edups2.0

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

That would be an Ecumenical matter.

*points to chair* CHAIR!!

Yes father, that's right!

*points to curtain* CUR TAN.

Well done father yes!

*wobbles* FLOOR.

old memory coming back father?

*points to OP* GOB****E.

Armchair Andy

Griffin Long Savannah wrote:

You seem to have a real DOWNER on Ireland, judging by your 20ish posts so far.

Which is ironic considering his username.

jameorahiely

Abortion isn't banned here, that's a misleading title. Legal abortions are carried out here, how could they be if it was "banned"?

desbrook

jameorahiely wrote: »

Abortion isn't banned here, that's a misleading title. Legal abortions are carried out here, how could they be if it was "banned"?

Under what circumstance?

AnGaelach

desbrook wrote: »

Under what circumstance?

If the mother's life is at risk.

desbrook

AnGaelach wrote: »

If the mother's life is at risk.

Theory and practice are two different things - especially where a life sentence may be the result.

jameorahiely

desbrook wrote: »

Under what circumstance?

Not in a "I demand a lunchtime abortion because a child will interfer with my social life/shopping, 1 dead baby please" circumstance, but medical ones under the current laws.



2015

Fourteen arose from a risk to the life of the mother arising from physical illness, three arose from a risk to the life of the mother from suicide, and nine from a risk to the life of the mother from emergencies arising from physical illness,” the Department of Health confirmed in a statement.
http://www.thejournal.ie/abortions-ireland-26-2188298-Jun2015/

Richard Hillman

Don't worry. When the leftists get their way and the Islamists gain control of Sweden and Belgium, we won't be on our own anymore.

desbrook

jameorahiely wrote: »

Not in a "I demand a lunchtime abortion because a child will interfer with my social life/shopping, 1 dead baby please" circumstance, but medical ones under the current laws.



2015

Fourteen arose from a risk to the life of the mother arising from physical illness, three arose from a risk to the life of the mother from suicide, and nine from a risk to the life of the mother from emergencies arising from physical illness,” the Department of Health confirmed in a statement.
http://www.thejournal.ie/abortions-ireland-26-2188298-Jun2015/

I stand corrected.

The flying mouse

Thought you were moving to Switzerland OP, you still here ?

Johnboner

The flying mouse wrote: »

Thought you were moving to Switzerland OP, you still here ?

That's the beauty of the internet I can access it from anywhere. I prefer to make my country a better place instead of emigrating.

MRnotlob606

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Don't worry. When the leftists get their way and the Islamists gain control of Sweden and Belgium, we won't be on our own anymore.

That slippery slope has got cooking oil on it!

suicide_circus

Johnboner wrote: »

That's the beauty of the internet I can access it from anywhere. I prefer to make my country a better place instead of emigrating.

Perhaps the former could occur via the latter?

AnGaelach

Johnboner wrote: »

I prefer to make my country a better place instead of emigrating.

But you've not done either.

gctest50

AnGaelach wrote: »

If the mother's life is at risk.

Didn't work so well though on a few occasions



The Romans had it right, underfloor heating, running water, and throw the Christians to the lions

AnGaelach

gctest50 wrote: »

Didn't work so well though on a few occasions

And probably worked out very well for those would would've been aborted if it had been legal.

gctest50 wrote: »

The Romans had it right, underfloor heating, running water, and throw the Christians to the lions

That escalated a bit quick didn't it?

The_Valeyard

I like cake.

gctest50

AnGaelach wrote: »

And probably worked out very well for those would would've been aborted if it had been legal.

Like violating Amanda Mellets rights



http://bit.ly/2gKBb94

Johnboner

suicide_circus wrote: »

Perhaps the former could occur via the latter?

Of course enjoy your misery.

wakka12

middle ages what an immature comment, Ireland is one of the most liberal open minded countries on earth there is literally no argument
if i can kiss my boyfriend on the streets of dublin and nobody even bats an eyelid, then we live in a pretty cool place )I'm a guy)

Johnboner

wakka12 wrote: »

middle ages what an immature comment, Ireland is one of the most liberal open minded countries on earth there is literally no argument
if i can kiss my boyfriend on the streets of dublin and nobody even bats an eyelid, then we live in a pretty cool place )I'm a guy)

Talking about abortion here.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Johnboner wrote: »

Talking about abortion here.

Ah! But are we? Are we really?

Berserker

wakka12 wrote: »

if i can kiss my boyfriend on the streets of dublin and nobody even bats an eyelid, then we live in a pretty cool place )I'm a guy)

What has that got to do with abortion? Anyway, your statement regarding abortion is not correct OP.

Ulysses Gaze

Johnboner wrote: »

Talking about abortion here.

Does it matter?

You've insinuated that not having abortions on tap makes us a backward, medieval country.

The posters point above is highlighting the fact that we are not so.

Particularly, when you consider that we were the first country in Western Europe to legalise same-sex marriage.

Some medieval country we are.....

Johnboner

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Does it matter?

You've insinuated that not having abortions on tap makes us a backward, medieval country.

The posters point above is highlighting the fact that we are not so.

Particularly, when you consider that we were the first country in Western Europe to legalise same-sex marriage.

Some medieval country we are.....

Yeah, get your facts straight first.

Ulysses Gaze

Johnboner wrote: »

Yeah, get your facts straight first.

And what would those be?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/23/gay-marriage-ireland-yes-vote

wakka12

wakka12 wrote: »

middle ages what an immature comment, Ireland is one of the most liberal open minded countries on earth there is literally no argument
if i can kiss my boyfriend on the streets of dublin and nobody even bats an eyelid, then we live in a pretty cool place )I'm a guy)

If I kissed your boyfriend on a street in Dublin, bet you AND my wife would be batting eyelids.

Johnboner

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

And what would those be?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/23/gay-marriage-ireland-yes-vote

"First country to do so by REFERENDUM" other European countries had it before Ireland

wakka12

Berserker wrote: »

What has that got to do with abortion? Anyway, your statement regarding abortion is not correct OP.

I was just talking generally, the Op said ireland was like the middle ages due to this ONE law we have, which is just stupid

goose2005

Abortion was permitted in the middle ages though

SnakePlissken

Johnboner wrote: »

"First country to do so by REFERENDUM" other European countries had it before Ireland

And this proves we're a backward nation how?

I think you've just destroyed your own argument there chief.

Johnboner

SnakePlissken wrote: »

And this proves we're a backward nation how?

I think you've just destroyed your own argument there chief.

Lol, what? Hahahaha if you say so

Chuchote

jameorahiely wrote: »

Not in a "I demand a lunchtime abortion because a child will interfer with my social life/shopping, 1 dead baby please" circumstance

Abortions for other reasons than stark necessity are everywhere a minuscule proportion of abortions. These few women are not necessarily people who'd make great parents…

Other European countries that forbid abortion except to save a woman's life: Northern Ireland, Malta, Vatican, Liechtenstein, San Marino: all countries with a macho worldview.

In Poland abortion is legal if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, in cases of foetal impairment or to save the health or life of the pregnant woman. Poland has the lowest recorded abortion rate in Europe: two abortions per 1,000 live births in 2012.

In Portugal abortion on demand was introduced as a result of a 2007 referendum and in Spain ditto after a 2010 law change.

In other European countries abortion is allowed in the first trimester (variously interpreted as up to 10 weeks and up to 14 weeks). In the Netherlands abortion in a licensed clinic is allowed virtually on request at any time between implantation and viability.

KingBrian2

Chuchote wrote: »

Abortions for other reasons than stark necessity are everywhere a minuscule proportion of abortions. These few women are not necessarily people who'd make great parents…

Other European countries that forbid abortion except to save a woman's life: Northern Ireland, Malta, Vatican, Liechtenstein, San Marino: all countries with a macho worldview.

In Poland abortion is legal if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, in cases of foetal impairment or to save the health or life of the pregnant woman. Poland has the lowest recorded abortion rate in Europe: two abortions per 1,000 live births in 2012.

In Portugal abortion on demand was introduced as a result of a 2007 referendum and in Spain ditto after a 2010 law change.

In other European countries abortion is allowed in the first trimester (variously interpreted as up to 10 weeks and up to 14 weeks). In the Netherlands abortion in a licensed clinic is allowed virtually on request at any time between implantation and viability.

Wouldn't be many people having abortion in the Vatican.

Chuchote

KingBrian2 wrote: »

Wouldn't be many people having abortion in the Vatican.

Plenty of women work in the Vatican. But you're right. They're probably preventing the abortion of the Son of Man.

FortySeven

Chuchote wrote: »

Abortions for other reasons than stark necessity are everywhere a minuscule proportion of abortions. These few women are not necessarily people who'd make great parents…

Other European countries that forbid abortion except to save a woman's life: Northern Ireland, Malta, Vatican, Liechtenstein, San Marino: all countries with a macho worldview.

In Poland abortion is legal if the pregnancy is the result of rape or incest, in cases of foetal impairment or to save the health or life of the pregnant woman. Poland has the lowest recorded abortion rate in Europe: two abortions per 1,000 live births in 2012.

In Portugal abortion on demand was introduced as a result of a 2007 referendum and in Spain ditto after a 2010 law change.

In other European countries abortion is allowed in the first trimester (variously interpreted as up to 10 weeks and up to 14 weeks). In the Netherlands abortion in a licensed clinic is allowed virtually on request at any time between implantation and viability.

Poland has a low abortion rate because they all travel to Germany to have it done. There is a strong, massive movement in Poland to completely ban abortion and they are likely to succeed in this aim.

FortySeven

Chuchote wrote: »

Abortions for other reasons than stark necessity are everywhere a minuscule proportion of abortions. These few women are not necessarily people who'd make great parents…

I don't believe this. Abortion for reasons of inconvenience are common. I know loads of people who have done it for various not that important reasons.

volchitsa

FortySeven wrote: »

I don't believe this. Abortion for reasons of inconvenience are common. I know loads of people who have done it for various not that important reasons.

Maybe they were important to them. And maybe they didn't necessarily tell you everything anyway. :rolleyes:


(I know loads of devil worshippers, terrible they are. Let's ban devil worship. That's a totally objective view and not at all because I'm against devil worship anyway, it's purely because I know loads of horrible devil worshippers.)

FortySeven

volchitsa wrote: »

Maybe they were important to them. And maybe they didn't necessarily tell you everything anyway. :rolleyes:

Save me the piss taking, I'm a bit long in the tooth for it.

One was because she was having an affair, two were because it didn't suit their plans for the future. One more was because she was unhappy with her relationship. One was because she thought she was too young.

These are the majority of abortions in countries on demand. There just aren't that many risks of death and fetal abnormalities and I won't be fooled into thinking otherwise. It wouldn't be an issue if this were the case. Ireland's got that covered.

FortySeven

Anyway, thus was a joke thread and I don't do abortion threads. Full of nutters on both sides.

I'm out.