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Engagement Ring in an interview?

  • 30-11-2016 7:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭


    Is it a good idea to remove an engagement ring if your going for a job interview?

    I'm worried about the presumption of imminent pregnancy etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,289 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    If you think it may be an issue, then do it. Better safe than sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    Wow. I have never heard of such madness. Since when is an engagement ring an indicator of imminent pregnancy?!

    Wear the ring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    May be better if it's a man interviewing you especially if your attractive.

    I'm a man by the way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,558 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to remove an engagement ring if your going for a job interview?

    I'm worried about the presumption of imminent pregnancy etc.

    Are you sure you want to work for someone who would base their decision on such a presumption?

    Work is only one aspect of your life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,658 ✭✭✭Milly33


    Theres a new one everyday.. Never heard it before. I would wear it but if you dont want to dont


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    Wow. I have never heard of such madness. Since when is an engagement ring an indicator of imminent pregnancy?!

    Wear the ring.

    'Imminent pregnancy'

    Funniest term I've heard all week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭Loveinapril


    D Trent wrote: »
    'Imminent pregnancy'

    Funniest term I've heard all week

    I would presume an engagement ring was an indicator of imminent marriage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,228 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    I've done it in the past.

    Anyone who doesn't think these things can be a factor in hiring decisions is very naive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Most men won't even notice you're wearing an engagement ring.

    Sounds like craziness to me, but if you think it'll be a factor then take it off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭d9oiu2wk07blr5


    Are you planning not to wear the ring or tell anyone that you're engaged if hired?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Are you planning not to wear the ring or tell anyone that you're engaged if hired?

    Just for the interview, I don't want it influencing their decision to employ me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    seamus wrote: »
    Most men won't even notice you're wearing an engagement ring.

    Sounds like craziness to me, but if you think it'll be a factor then take it off.

    Most men actually will if they are attracted to someone. It's the usual indicator to see if someone is taken.


    Op I say take it off :) you've got a reason so stick by your instincts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭d9oiu2wk07blr5


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Just for the interview, I don't want it influencing their decision to employ me.

    If they're that way minded, it could influence their decision to fire you too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    If they're that way minded, it could influence their decision to fire you too.

    It's very easy to discriminate in an interview, it's much harder to fire people. I would have thought that was obvious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,558 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    I've done it in the past.

    Anyone who doesn't think these things can be a factor in hiring decisions is very naive.

    or not a knob


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    GingerLily wrote: »
    It's very easy to discriminate in an interview, it's much harder to fire people. I would have thought that was obvious.

    Not at all in the first year of employment you can be let go easily and hAve little to no protection


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Stheno wrote: »
    Not at all in the first year of employment you can be let go easily and hAve little to no protection

    Because on discrimination?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Because on discrimination?

    I'm not sure what you mean?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 364 ✭✭d9oiu2wk07blr5


    GingerLily wrote: »
    It's very easy to discriminate in an interview, it's much harder to fire people. I would have thought that was obvious.

    Employers can make up a reason. Do you want to work for a company that judges you because you're engaged or getting married?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭dev100


    seamus wrote:
    Most men won't even notice you're wearing an engagement ring.Sounds like craziness to me, but if you think it'll be a factor then take it off.

    Small companies would probably notice bigger companies I would think take more of pragmatic approach . My old boss wouldn't hire any young woman always hired ould ones unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭Sunny Dayz


    I was newly engaged when I was job hunting and it never occurred to me not to wear it and it was never commented on or a factor in not getting a job. I might ad I already had a child. My boss never even noticed I was engaged until we were having a discussion at the end of my probation period when I looked for time off the following year for my wedding!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    Patww79 wrote: »
    They couldn't for that, but they'd just fabricate another reason if they wanted to.

    They could but it's an awful lot more hassle and effort to fire an employee then simply not hire them.

    To be fair this is not really helpful advise, some people here don't believe that employers discriminate against candidates who are more likely to have kids maybe what I've heard has just been silly rumours, but on the other hand, if there's a small chance then it might better safe then sorry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84,733 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Ring off will put you at an advantage with someone showing a ring, sad way it is but that's what your up against. Recruiters are looking for the most lean high profit employee they can have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭heyjude88


    Yeah I left mine off on my last interview.

    I had heard it mentioned before and as I was walking out the door I said it to my fiance and he said, oh yeah I would remove it.

    Wedding leave, maternity leave.....

    It's not nice to think its even a factor, but it is.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    It would not have crossed my mind to worry about an engagement ring in an interview. I want someone who is enthusiastic and reliable - an engagement ring is not an indication off either of those traits so it would not be relevant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to remove an engagement ring if your going for a job interview?

    I'm worried about the presumption of imminent pregnancy etc.

    Will not wearing the ring hide that you are female of child bearing age? Someone that is going to discriminate will do so regardless of a ring.

    Leave it on, would you want to work some someone that would discriminate like that anyway?

    And yeah, they can let you go within a year. They don't need to even give a reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Those without the engagement ring at interview are just as likely to find a partner/become engaged and eventually be in the same position as the woman with an engagement ring. Or go on maternity leave without being married/engaged. It makes no sense that they'd make assumptions and their decision based on a ring.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    heyjude88 wrote: »
    Yeah I left mine off on my last interview.

    I had heard it mentioned before and as I was walking out the door I said it to my fiance and he said, oh yeah I would remove it.

    Wedding leave, maternity leave.....

    It's not nice to think its even a factor, but it is.

    Wedding leave?

    That 's not a thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭heyjude88


    Wedding leave?

    That 's not a thing

    maybe not in yours, but in my job it is.
    Shift work, we can only take 2 weeks in the summer and 2 in winter off peak. Wedding leave we get 3 weeks at any time of the year. Big company 5,000 employees. We have to book our leave a year in advance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭Snow angel


    I wore my ring for my first 2-3 interviews and I noticed an older woman on the panel staring at it when asking me questions. I felt after that it created a negative impression for some people and so now take it off for interviews.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    heyjude88 wrote: »
    maybe not in yours, but in my job it is.
    Shift work, we can only take 2 weeks in the summer and 2 in winter off peak. Wedding leave we get 3 weeks at any time of the year. Big company 5,000 employees. We have to book our leave a year in advance.

    If a company are offering a non statutory benefit (like wedding leave or maternity pay) it doesn't make any sense that they would use this policy to then discriminate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,432 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    You know there's something wrong with the employment world when a person is worrying about their engagement ring. It should be worn with pride, but it's understandable if not. Best of luck in both worlds op


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Tzardine


    Wedding leave?

    That 's not a thing

    It sure is. I got 5 days marriage leave 2 years ago. (Public service)


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  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    Most men won't even notice you're wearing an engagement ring...............

    Dunno about that, if the lady is hot it's always something I'd have a glance for :)


  • Administrators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,907 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I got an extra 5 days 15 years years ago. Private sector!

    I think an engagement ring isn't likely to indicate any more than a young woman approaching the age when women tend to have babies would. Wearing an engagement ring wouldn't necessarily mean you were more or less likely to have a baby than a woman the same age as you not wearing one. People hiring know that women aged say mid twenties to 40 are likely to go out on maternity leave at some stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Initially I laughed at this but then I mentioned it to my wife, first she said was so what you think you should do, half way thru an interview, you dont want your mind straying to the thought of having your ring on.

    She also reminded me about an interview I had, was a few years ago and would have been a big step up for me. Interview went great, all smiles and very positive responses from the interviewers until I mentioned I was getting married, everything changed from there, I could see it in their facial expressions and way they responded to my answers.

    So, go for what you feel is right, and best of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭psnKOB79LFC


    GingerLily wrote: »
    Is it a good idea to remove an engagement ring if your going for a job interview?

    I'm worried about the presumption of imminent pregnancy etc.

    Yes, my wife did that for years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭jameorahiely


    heyjude88 wrote: »
    maybe not in yours, but in my job it is.
    Shift work, we can only take 2 weeks in the summer and 2 in winter off peak. Wedding leave we get 3 weeks at any time of the year. Big company 5,000 employees. We have to book our leave a year in advance.

    It is dependent on company policy, not a legal thing.

    People are saying they may not wear the ring due to possible discrimination, then looking for extra holidays, quite happy to discriminate agains their non married colleagues...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Are you sure you want to work for someone who would base their decision on such a presumption?

    Work is only one aspect of your life.

    It wouldn't bother me who I was working for if it was a job I loved and the pay was good!

    OP I would leave the ring off.
    I don't really get why it's a such a big question that needed a whole thread, not wearing it for a couple of hours is hardly going to hurt you!

    Those on here that don't agree with the OP about not wearing the ring are definitely naïve as another poster said.
    Not every job gives 'wedding leave' but if the OP was getting married I would assume she'd want to book at least 3 weeks off of her annual leave for the big day and honeymoon.

    That length of time off in one go could cause issues for an employer and put them off hiring someone who may require such a length of leave only say a year into their employment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    I don't tend to notice rings unless they're the size of knuckledusters and used as such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    Those on here that don't agree with the OP about not wearing the ring are definitely naïve as another poster said.

    You are naive if you think not wearing a ring will stop someone discriminating because they think you'll get pregnant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    You are naive if you think not wearing a ring will stop someone discriminating because they think you'll get pregnant.

    To be fair I don't actually agree on the pregnancy point, I'd think the interviewer may just be concerned about the potential employer taking a large chuck of time off for wedding leave.

    I wouldn't imagine an engagement ring would point towards pregnancy; anyone can get pregnant at any time with or without a ring!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    To be fair I don't actually agree on the pregnancy point, I'd think the interviewer may just be concerned about the potential employer taking a large chuck of time off for wedding leave.

    There's no law which gives a right to wedding leave.

    The employer can say 'take it out of your holidays'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭BetsyEllen


    There's no law which gives a right to wedding leave.

    The employer can say 'take it out of your holidays'.

    You clearly haven't read my previous post.
    I said that not every company gives wedding leave.
    The employee would usually book off say 3 weeks of their annual leave in one go.

    They have every right to do this yes but it can be a real pain to the employer arranging cover for those 3 weeks.
    When I took leave for my wedding my employer had to get a temp in, they needed to come in a week before I left for training etc - so it worked out costly for the company and I'm sure it was an annoyance for my boss.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 10 AnCailin


    Remove it.

    I once heard a story of a young woman being turned down for promotion due to the fact she was newly married and maternity leave was a concern. This story came from someone on the interview board too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    If you're worried about someone assuming that in an interview, then what's to stop them from thinking, she's young, she's probably going to get engaged soon and then she'll be off on pregnancy leave anyway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    BetsyEllen wrote: »
    You clearly haven't read my previous post.
    I said that not every company gives wedding leave.
    The employee would usually book off say 3 weeks of their annual leave in one go.

    They have every right to do this yes but it can be a real pain to the employer arranging cover for those 3 weeks.
    When I took leave for my wedding my employer had to get a temp in, they needed to come in a week before I left for training etc - so it worked out costly for the company and I'm sure it was an annoyance for my boss.

    The employer also has every right to refuse 3 weeks leave. Don't see how leave would be an issue in the slightest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Anything that gives you an advantage do it. It may not be right or moral but people judge all sorts. What's the advantage to not taking it off?


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