Cutbacks required at RTE

Pkiernan

I am still sickened when I remember that RTE sent Joe Duffy on the Orient Express for a week at the height of the recession.
RTE is worse than any if the fukkin Charity CEOS.

The J Stands for Jay

Walter2016 wrote: »

And if such a cap was imposed, they'd leave, viewership would drop with resultant advertising revenue and that would continue to oblivion.

I hardly think people would abandon the late late if tubridy left. Most of those top presenters aren't needed to get the audience. It's Tue timeslot on the channel and the nature of the show that gets listeners/viewers for a lot of them.

Elmo

McGaggs wrote: »

I hardly think people would abandon the late late if tubridy left. Most of those top presenters aren't needed to get the audience. It's Tue timeslot on the channel and the nature of the show that gets listeners/viewers for a lot of them.

And this has largely been proven by Pat Kenny who has failed to help either NewsTalk or TV3 in any major way. In reality he had no viewers for either his UTV or TV3 shows.

Sam Russell

Elmo wrote: »

And this has largely been proven by Pat Kenny who has failed to help either NewsTalk or TV3 in any major way. In reality he had no viewers for either his UTV or TV3 shows.

And not so many listeners on News Talk either.

What is forgotten is all the 'sitting in for' that substitutes do. So if the star is away, the star is in decline - a few too many and the star is forgotten.

RTE should dump the idea of programmes carrying the name of the star so when they are away - which is often - they are not missed.

Elmo

I just want to point one exception to the rule and that was Ian Dempsey. 2FM never really got any presenter of the ground for their morning show.

The Parish priest

icdg wrote: »

They want to close it, but unfortunately someone decided in 2009 to put a clause in the Broadcasting Act which could be read as requiring RTE to operate a teletext service. It wasn't there in the previous Broadcasting Authority Acts of course which makes the fact that it was put in as late as 2009, when teletext was already a dying technology, really bizzare.

Surely Aertel only costs peanuts to run ? I'd say a good few oaps would miss it

BuilderPlumber

Elmo wrote: »

And this has largely been proven by Pat Kenny who has failed to help either NewsTalk or TV3 in any major way. In reality he had no viewers for either his UTV or TV3 shows.

RTE is all about overhyping these presenters they have and wasting large amounts of money paying them. Pat Kenny's post Late Late Show period has been less than impressive. First he gave us the brutal The Frontline on RTE and then he failed to take off on the other 2 stations. He is an overrated presenter and the shows he has been presenting have been in general very very poor.

If RTE stopped paying these presenters excessive money for their easy jobs and if they concentrated on quality not quantity, things would be much better. There is an excessive amount of rubbish programmes that are individually cheap to make but collectively costing RTE a fortune.

If you happen to like house/garden makeovers, chefs, poor modern so-called country music, talent contests and tame dramas, then 2016 RTE is the place for you. Otherwise, it is TV hell.

The Parish priest

The new RTE dg has been very quiet, why isn't she speaking up demanding that the shackles placed on RTE under the 09 broadcasting act be lifted ?

Old Bill

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

RTE is all about overhyping these presenters they have and wasting large amounts of money paying them. Pat Kenny's post Late Late Show period has been less than impressive. First he gave us the brutal The Frontline on RTE and then he failed to take off on the other 2 stations. He is an overrated presenter and the shows he has been presenting have been in general very very poor.

If RTE stopped paying these presenters excessive money for their easy jobs and if they concentrated on quality not quantity, things would be much better. There is an excessive amount of rubbish programmes that are individually cheap to make but collectively costing RTE a fortune.

If you happen to like house/garden makeovers, chefs, poor modern so-called country music, talent contests and tame dramas, then 2016 RTE is the place for you. Otherwise, it is TV hell.

Is kenny's show on TV3 now over ?

Elmo

Old Bill wrote: »

Is kenny's show on TV3 now over ?

I think that is the point Pat Kenny was given an excessive amount of money at RTÉ for Today and TLLS.

The audience for frontline wasn't as strong as Q&A or Claire Byrne.

His newstalk show has help newstalk but nothing like Today's audience and PK Tonight had a lower audience than Vincent Browne and that's not mentioning.... in the round

MRnotlob606

Operation Transformation and Ireland's fittest families should be scrapped.

colm_mcm

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Operation Transformation and Ireland's fittest families should be scrapped.

I'd say they pay their way in terms of advertising revenue/sponsorship and prob not being that expensive to make.

Elmo

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd say they pay their way in terms of advertising revenue/sponsorship and prob not being that expensive to make.

And also their audiences are good. Why would you scrap 2 popular shows? Both of which are original Irish formats from independent producers.

alan partridge aha

Get rid of Darcy and tubs and replace with cardboard cut outs save a packet.

ted1

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Operation Transformation and Ireland's fittest families should be scrapped.

It's cheap telly.

alan partridge aha

Irelands fittest family is one of the best show on rte

BuilderPlumber

MRnotlob606 wrote: »

Operation Transformation and Ireland's fittest families should be scrapped.

Plus Dancing With The Stars, Stetsons and Stilettos, Room to Improve and whatever version of The Voice of Ireland/You're a Star that comes along next. All these things are cheap to make and while I get it that RTE is broke, they surely could do something better than this. Even reruns of 30 year old Glenroe episodes would be a step up from this reality drivel.

political analyst

News for the Deaf, as I've said in an OP in this forum, isn't efficient spending of licence-fee money. Everyone who watches RTÉ has access to subtitles. Therefore, News for the Deaf should be axed.

Old Bill

They should give this guy his own show on RTE.

Hes far more entertaining than Pat Kenny.

Elmo

political analyst wrote: »

News for the Deaf, as I've said in an OP in this forum, isn't efficient spending of licence-fee money. Everyone who watches RTÉ has access to subtitles. Therefore, News for the Deaf should be axed.

I think you might find some ISL users defeated by dropping the only news in ISL. indeed RTÉ could be take to court by the ISL news reader for discrimination.

iseegirls

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

Plus Dancing With The Stars, Stetsons and Stilettos, Room to Improve and whatever version of The Voice of Ireland/You're a Star that comes along next. All these things are cheap to make

I doubt Dancing With The Stars is cheap to make. The set is very impressive, and is not in the RTE Studios meaning they're renting the Ardmore Studios.

Room To Improve gets really big ratings, and also repeats well. Unsure what you'd like it to replace it with that would get the same kind of ratings.

Elmo

iseegirls wrote: »

I doubt Dancing With The Stars is cheap to make. The set is very impressive, and is not in the RTE Studios meaning they're renting the Ardmore Studios.

Room To Improve gets really big ratings, and also repeats well. Unsure what you'd like it to replace it with that would get the same kind of ratings.

RTE do need to stop repeating Room To Improve, new series are fine but repeats are not.

RTE need to make more of a variety of programmes. E.g. Winning Streak is their only game show, that could be cut. Out of all the shows mentioned above.

iseegirls

Elmo wrote: »

RTE do need to stop repeating Room To Improve, new series are fine but repeats are not.

RTE need to make more of a variety of programmes. E.g. Winning Streak is their only game show, that could be cut. Out of all the shows mentioned above.

Repeats in afternoon are ok for it. They shouldn't be repeating the same series 6 months later in prime time though. Which happens an awful lot. It has been shown a lot recently on sporadic days. I didn't know if episodes were new or old before I watched the first 5 minutes.

BuilderPlumber

Elmo wrote: »

RTE do need to stop repeating Room To Improve, new series are fine but repeats are not.

RTE need to make more of a variety of programmes. E.g. Winning Streak is their only game show, that could be cut. Out of all the shows mentioned above.

They are always at this and I don't think this series is so amazing they have to show it again and again. Next thing they could do to fill in time is repeating Late Late Shows in their entirity over the Fridays and Saturdays of the summer months. They already show highlights (if you could call it that) of the season gone of it on Fridays in the summer as it is.

political analyst

Perhaps RTÉ should drop League of Ireland (LoI) football coverage because it gets hardly any viewers. It should be left to the pay-TV operators, e.g. eir.

Would RTÉ have been able to hold on to the rights to the Rugby World and Six Nations Cups if it had dropped LoI?

BuilderPlumber

political analyst wrote: »

Perhaps RTÉ should drop League of Ireland (LoI) football coverage because it gets hardly any viewers. It should be left to the pay-TV operators, e.g. eir.

Would RTÉ have been able to hold on to the rights to the Rugby World and Six Nations Cups if it had dropped LoI?

Irish club soccer is poor fare. Not a patch on the World Cup, The Euros, the Champions' League or the FA Cup. I watched some of it a few times and felt they were the poorest matches I ever saw.

icdg

There is no discussion of anything actually happening on the field in any sports related post in this forum. Thanks

Mehapoy

RTE thinks of itself as a mini BBC, there needs to be a cap on salary for the 'stars',if a person gets well enough known to draw an audience then they should go to commercial tv where the market will determine their salary... In all honesty if turbidy went to tv3 and had the same slot most people would still tube into the LLS on rte1, rte2 should be wholly commercialised, no reason rte could not still own it but it should not get license fee and have the same independence and ads as tv3. Rtejnr should he retained as the youth channel with no ads before 7pm. 2fm serves no function and should he sold, the campus in donnybrook should be sold off and only a token presence retained there with expanded facilities in the regions and elsewhere in Dublin, TG4 should get a larger % of the license fee as they seem to know how to cit their cloth to suit their budget.

Capt'n Midnight

political analyst wrote: »

News for the Deaf, as I've said in an OP in this forum, isn't efficient spending of licence-fee money. Everyone who watches RTÉ has access to subtitles. Therefore, News for the Deaf should be axed.

Irish Sign Language is not English or Irish, it's a separate language so subtitles aren't a replacement. And Irish Sign Language is different to that in the UK too. And it's cheap telly to produce compared to outside broadcast or commissioning a series.

Not sure but I'd imagine it's one of those EU/ECJ things if push came to shove.

Capt'n Midnight

Stop wasting money on DAB, it's a dead end.

DAB+ replaced it. No commercial channels use it , or DAB+ for that matter.
Few people have DAB+ receivers. Every car and smartphone has an FM receiver.



Saorsat costs money, but I can't think of a cheaper way of getting all Island coverage, and that's in light of FTV and Tivosat