Smackdown Live TLC Thread

Lithium93_

Taking place December 4th.

Main card below

Chairs match
Kalisto vs. Baron Corbin

No Disqualification match
Nikki Bella vs. Carmella

Ladder match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship
The Miz (c) (with Maryse) vs. Dolph Ziggler

Tag Team match for the WWE SmackDown Tag Team Championship
Heath Slater and Rhyno (c) vs. American Alpha or The Wyatt Family (Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton)

SmackDown Women's Championship
Becky Lynch (c) vs. Alexa Bliss

Tables, Ladders and Chairs match for the WWE World Championship
AJ Styles (c) vs. Dean Ambrose

Further matches probably to be announced on Smackdown Live on Wednesday morning.

PTH2009

Hopefully this ppv brings an end too the Styles/Ambrose storyline and both explore other rivilarys.

I'd love if styles wins and the lights go out and Taker appears which leads to a RR title match

I wonder will they do a Shane McMahon be Ambrose rivilary

I feel Ellsworth will be jobbed out to guys like Corbin, miz, demon Kane etc when he's out of the Styles/Ambrose picture

Omackeral

Once we get a Stairs match I'll be happy...

PTH2009

Omackeral wrote: »

Once we get a Stairs match I'll be happy...

Yeah and featuring 2 returning past WWE stars

Former SD GM Kurt Angle (in his Wheelchair) vs Zach Gowan lol

Frank O. Pinion

TLC 2010: Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, for the IC title.
TLC 2012: Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, for the World Heavyweight title.
TLC 2014: Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, for the IC title.
TLC 2016: Dolph Ziggler in a ladder match, for the IC title.

Even years at this event, Ziggler climbs ladders, odd years he does not.

Omackeral

Would love to see the Tag Title match become a tables match. Rhyno doing a gore through one would be sweet. Then the possibilites of either an RKO/Sister Abigail or an American Alpha Grand Amplitude.

CastorTroy

Apart from the belt or whatever not being above the ring, what's to stop ladders or tables in a chairs match?

I find it funny there are 6 matches scheduled for this 3 hour show and that was the same number of matches at the 4 hour Survivor Series

johnnyryan89

Could see the tag title match becoming a triple threat tag team match.

Omackeral

CastorTroy wrote: »

Apart from the belt or whatever not being above the ring, what's to stop ladders or tables in a chairs match?

Mate, I've always said that. There's literally no difference between a TLC match and a ladder match. I've maintained that to be eligible to grab the belt you should first have to hit your opponent with a chair and also put him through a table.

Agent Coulson

There really isn't one match on the card that interests me in anyway at all the only thing that does interest me is who will Alexa be cosplaying as.


The only real question is do they give the Tag belts to AA or The Wyatt's as Slater & Ryhno won't be Champs tomorrow.

Becky to drop the Tile.

Bella to get her revenge

Ziggler and the Miz to be same match for the 10,000 time just this time with a ladder.

Masked little man to beat big black hole of charisma man

AJ to beat the fringe who will act like a lunatic in some stupid way.

J. Marston

No gimmick for Becky vs Alexa?

Lithium93_

J. Marston wrote: »

No gimmick for Becky vs Alexa?

It's a tables match.

Ali Bomaye

I think this is a fantastic card. My only problem with it is too many gimmick matches. I'm not a big fan of tables matches or chairs matches.
Styles vs Ambrose and Ziggler vs Miz have both been excellent feuds and should finish tonight. I'm interested in very match on the card, I think they've all had a really good build.

Lithium93_

Ali Bomaye wrote: »

I think this is a fantastic card. My only problem with it is too many gimmick matches. I'm not a big fan of tables matches or chairs matches.
Styles vs Ambrose and Ziggler vs Miz have both been excellent feuds and should finish tonight. I'm interested in very match on the card, I think they've all had a really good build.

Well it is a gimmick PPV, name kinda gives it away..

Ali Bomaye

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Well it is a gimmick PPV, name kinda gives it away..

I am well aware of the name of the PPV. It still doesn't change the fact that I'm not a fan of tables matches or chairs matches. Just because it's a gimmick PPV doesn't mean you need five gimmick matches.

J. Marston

Lithium93_ wrote: »

It's a tables match.

Hope they're using weaker tables than the ones Sasha and Charlotte used. They seemed to have trouble putting each other through them.

CastorTroy

I'd say Becky will have as much trouble putting Alexa through a table. She's tiny.

Agent Coulson

Watching that KFC ad I really can't take Miz vs Ziggler serious.

Agent Coulson

Who is the talking head that's not Bryan, Booker or Renee?

PTH2009

Finally Bray Wyatt has a title didn't expect it be a tag champ with Orton at the beginning of the SD roster

What now for Rhyno and Slater ???

PTH2009

Owl Sean Deng there on Chinese announce table

J. Marston

Miz is masterful. The Dallas crowd actually got behind him in the end and he turned them again with one remark.

Chain Smoker

Jaysis, there was a PPV tonight?!

They really need to spread them out a bit more, who can digest this ****...

764dak

Mr. Ellsworth

aaaaaaaahhhhhh

Chain Smoker wrote: »

They really need to spread them out a bit more, who can digest this ****...

Another one in two weeks, ROadBlock
Cant keep up with these PPV's.
No more PPV's for 6 weeks then

Furious-Red

Watched up to the Ladder match but was too tired, Although wwe memes of the 2 other title matches so no point in watching

PTH2009

James Ellsworth you little wiesel, Ambrose is going to kill him

Enjoyed the Intercon match and the world title match

What now for Aj Styles, Miz, Ziggler ???

Super cena will be back soon so he may face Styles for the title at RR ??

J. Marston

Damn that tease of Orton's old theme. I so wanted to hear it again.

CSF

The Ellsworth heel turn really does come under the definition of wrestlecrap doesn't it?

I thought the TLC match was great. It was annoying for a few minutes when AJ got the hole in his ring gear and the crowd kept laughing when he'd turn around but they soon got over it.

The 450 to the table on the outside was something else!

J. Marston

The belt is bigger than Alexa.

SureYWouldntYa

Okay the Ellsworth heel turn makes sense, he thinks he has AJ's number and wants him to win so his title match will be against him

But why bother coming out then when AJ is heading up the ladder and no sign of life in Ambrose?

sky88

CSF wrote: »

The Ellsworth heel turn really does come under the definition of wrestlecrap doesn't it?

Watched talking smack and his explanation paints him as deluded heel rather then one that makes no sense.

Neil3030

Ugh. When Ellsworth was mega over in the beginning, AJ never secured decent heat by beating the life out of him.

Instead they overexposed Ellsworth to the point that people became sick of him, and inexplicably "turned him heel" by helping a guy everyone loves beat a guy people are meh on.

Yeah that makes sense...

Fair play to JBL during the womens title match.

Becky hits a snap suplex.

Mauro - "A snap suplex like her UK compatriot the Dynamite Kid would do"

JBL "Except Ireland isn't apart of the UK"

Neil3030

Deleted User wrote: »

JBL "Except Ireland isn't apart of the UK"

So what he said was... Ireland IS part of the UK?! :pac:

Neil3030

Neil3030 wrote: »

So what he said was... Ireland IS part of the UK?! :pac:

My grammar can be woeful at times, sorry. Just typing it out quick on my phone while watching the match but you get the point :pac:

Bounty Hunter

So all the heels won then... That was one of the reasons I thought Becky would retain but nope all those faces (Ambrose, Becky, Ziggler, Kalisto, Slater & Rhyno). Actually I guess Nikki won and she is a face but no title there, the titles are now all held by heels eveen some of them are proper over.

Neil3030

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

So all the heels won then... That was one of the reasons I thought Becky would retain but nope all those faces (Ambrose, Becky, Ziggler, Kalisto, Slater & Rhyno). Actually I guess Nikki won and she is a face but no title there, the titles are now all held by heels eveen some of them are proper over.

Tis the season. Autumn is traditionally when the heels all go over so the build can begin toward the Mania moments. They have a pretty old-school-minded young lad booking Smackdown now, don't they?

Mr.Nice Guy

I actually LOVE what they are doing with Ellsworth. At first I feared he was going to go full blown heel with the turn but then I saw the Talking Smack segment - I bash WWE a lot but that was brilliant. I was nearly in tears listening to him explaining himself. I'm loving this.

I saw someone comment 'Ellsworth isn't a heel - he's just an idiot.' That's pretty much where we are right now. He's not a good guy, he's not a bad guy, he's Karl Pilkington basically.

If they keep this up and have him be this naive guy who does unconscionable things I think it will be great. It's almost like a Father Dougal thing - sometimes awful things are done but you can't hate him because his heart was in the right place.

I don't have faith in them keeping this up and it will probably emerge that it was all a nefarious plan on his part and he knew exactly what he was doing but I really, really hope not. Keep him as this adorable yet deluded dimwit.

Lord TSC

Ellsworth outright said on Smackdown why he screwed Ambrose; he's beaten AJ three times, so think he has a better chance of beating him for the title. Thats actually pretty intelligent storytelling, or at least smarter than they usually are.

Meanwhile, Miz vs Bryan II

https://streamable.com/q01o

This HAS to be building towards one last match from Bryan...

J. Marston

Miz is destroying Bryan in those segments consistently. It's really interesting though, where do they go with it? I don't think Bryan will actually get back in the ring. Maybe call up someone from NXT to do his handiwork?

Agent Coulson

Who better for Bryan to have his final match with but the guy he say takes no risks and is safe and doesn't go hard in the ring.


If Bryan has one match left in him and Vince does allow it it's a great build up and storytelling.

WinnyThePoo

I personally can't fathom Bryan getting back into the ring. Though I really like this slow build. Miz's promo after the match was great.
One of my favourite storylines was Bryan and The Miz in NXT.

BMMachine

I honestly forgot this was on

sky88

While becky/Alexa put on a OK match I have to say tables matches are one of the worst stipulations they have

sky88

sky88 wrote: »

While becky/Alexa put on a OK match I have to say tables matches are one of the worst stipulations they have

I only think it works in tag matches were you know 2 - 3 people are going through tables.

CastorTroy

I've decided to just assume there's a PPV every other week now.

Good show.
They really need to teach the refs that there are no countouts in a no DQ match. If anyone should know this it's former TNA senior official Rudy Charles. Was strange that Carmella just told Nikki about Nattie. Guess they just want to move that story along quickly.

Anyone else think Mauro was off his game? He made a llt of mistakes. Not only the comment about Becky and the UK, but during that match alone, he got Beck and Alexa mixed up a few times and even called Alexa "Brook". Then in the TLC, I'm sure when Ellsworth pushed the ladder that he said "What the f*** did Ellsworth do?"

Did find it strange how JBL kept saying it would be Kalisto's defining moment, etc if he beat Corbin. Did he forget that Kalisto used to hold the belt now held by Golden Boy Reigns?

CastorTroy

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyone else think Mauro was off his game? He made a llt of mistakes. Not only the comment about Becky and the UK, but during that match alone, he got Beck and Alexa mixed up a few times and even called Alexa "Brook". Then in the TLC, I'm sure when Ellsworth pushed the ladder that he said "What the f*** did Ellsworth do?"

He was calling Curt Hawkins Chad Hawkins on the pre show as well.

Agent Coulson

Mauro was shooting down rumours today that he is leaving the WWE so maybe his mind was somewhere else last night.

CastorTroy

May be confusing as well with so many commentators at ringside. Had the 4 English language then 2 or 3 other tables.
Why are there now 4 commentators?